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Post by macdaddysquid on Mar 2, 2008 10:18:13 GMT -5
Cena was on the mid card? He is pushed cause of the merchandise he sells/sold. His popularity has peaked and at least half of every crowd boos him.
So logically speaking, could he not continue to push merchandise to the women and children while wrestling for the IC title? This could rejuvenate him and get the other half of the crowd on his side.
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Post by lotus on Mar 2, 2008 10:20:43 GMT -5
IC Title? Cena? Midcard? Blasphemy, that'd be like Ric Flair doing it.  |
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Post by macdaddysquid on Mar 2, 2008 10:21:44 GMT -5
Imagine the public image of the belt if Cena had it. It could do wonders.
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Post by lotus on Mar 2, 2008 10:23:06 GMT -5
Why would he go for the IC title when the world title is more important?
Anymore the IC title is just a place holder saying, here have this, we have nothing better for you but we still want you to look strong.
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Post by Mecca on Mar 2, 2008 10:25:30 GMT -5
Well right now the way Cena has been booked having him lose a feud to someone would do wonders to get a person over. But you could never really drop him to the midcard, you might be able to have him not work for the title for a few months in a "personal grudge feud"
Problem with all of this is, if you drop him down a slight peg who you gonna push? Triple H? Then they'd basically switch spots and it'd be the same thing...another guy mowing down heels who've all been mowed down before.
Or I guess you could turn H heel which has been rumored but if you do that, who would be that top face that gets his push while Cena slides down for a few months? Hardy? And who's the heel Cena is going to work with while out of the mainevent?
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Post by macdaddysquid on Mar 2, 2008 10:25:54 GMT -5
That is exactly why Cena should go for it. To give a higher prestige. Not just Cena, like HHH, HBK etc.
Fact is raw has to many top dogs for the WWE title. So why not use some of the top guys to add some credibility back to the IC title?
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Post by Mecca on Mar 2, 2008 10:26:35 GMT -5
Why would he go for the IC title when the world title is more important? Anymore the IC title is just a place holder saying, here have this, we have nothing better for you but we still want you to look strong. Even if you drop him down he can never go for that belt ever again, he's "above it". Triple H and HBK haven't really been "maineventing" that much as far as PPV title shots go and they don't wrestle for that belt. |
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Post by lotus on Mar 2, 2008 10:28:35 GMT -5
Cena needs to move onto Foley and Hogan level. Only feud with guys trying to make a name for themselves. I feel that he might have one good title reign left in him but after that it's just killing his "legacy"
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Post by Mecca on Mar 2, 2008 10:30:42 GMT -5
Cena needs to move onto Foley and Hogan level. Only feud with guys trying to make a name for themselves. I feel that he might have one good title reign left in him but after that it's just killing his "legacy" Cena is only 30 years old........ I don't have a problem if you wanna move him out of the top notch title scene for a period but who replaces him? Who does he work with? You can't just change a guys spot with no plans. |
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Post by macdaddysquid on Mar 2, 2008 10:35:10 GMT -5
Cena needs to move onto Foley and Hogan level. Only feud with guys trying to make a name for themselves. I feel that he might have one good title reign left in him but after that it's just killing his "legacy" Cena is only 30 years old........ I don't have a problem if you wanna move him out of the top notch title scene for a period but who replaces him? Who does he work with? You can't just change a guys spot with no plans. Ok well in this perfect world I live in. Cena could have a face vs face feud with Hardy. With this you could a) put both guys over, and hive Hardy some more credibility. or B) Or have a Heel interrupt the pay off match thus creating scenario 2 Scenario 2. Cena vs Heel, vs Hardy. Heel could be someone like Kennedy, who is a little lost right now as far as really good feuds and so forth. A feud with Cena could elevate both guys to main event. |
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Post by angryfan on Mar 2, 2008 10:36:37 GMT -5
Why would he go for the IC title when the world title is more important? Anymore the IC title is just a place holder saying, here have this, we have nothing better for you but we still want you to look strong. And that's the sad part, isn't it? WHen we were growing up, the IC belt was a stepping stone, yes, but it was treated as important and special. Guys could, when not holding or chasing the top belt, drop down and make a run at the IC title, keeping it strong. We ahd it in the 80's, we had it during the early 90's, we had it during Attitude. Then, it just became, like you said, a "here, we've got nothing else" title, and I'm really not sure why. |
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Post by Mecca on Mar 2, 2008 10:40:57 GMT -5
Cena is only 30 years old........ I don't have a problem if you wanna move him out of the top notch title scene for a period but who replaces him? Who does he work with? You can't just change a guys spot with no plans. Ok well in this perfect world I live in. Cena could have a face vs face feud with Hardy. With this you could a) put both guys over, and hive Hardy some more credibility. or B) Or have a Heel interrupt the pay off match thus creating scenario 2 Scenario 2. Cena vs Heel, vs Hardy. Heel could be someone like Kennedy, who is a little lost right now as far as really good feuds and so forth. A feud with Cena could elevate both guys to main event. And you wanna do this as an upper midcard out of the mainevent feud.... Who is champion and what's his feud...that is very important also. I know this sounds bad but the US title means more now than the IC title because of the directions of the shows. Smackdown is more about getting new guys over..Raw is the show of stars, all that show is booked for is name value and keeping their big time guys out there as much as possible. Hardy has the IC belt right now just because... The belt would mean more if the rosters were more evenly split which each show having it's share of stars/young up and comers and all that but it isn't. Raw takes all the star power so everything about the show is that and any midcard type of belt is forgotten about. |
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Post by Citizen Snips on Mar 2, 2008 10:46:17 GMT -5
Ok well in this perfect world I live in. Cena could have a face vs face feud with Hardy. With this you could a) put both guys over, and hive Hardy some more credibility. or B) Or have a Heel interrupt the pay off match thus creating scenario 2 Scenario 2. Cena vs Heel, vs Hardy. Heel could be someone like Kennedy, who is a little lost right now as far as really good feuds and so forth. A feud with Cena could elevate both guys to main event. And you wanna do this as an upper midcard out of the mainevent feud.... Who is champion and what's his feud...that is very important also. I know this sounds bad but the US title means more now than the IC title because of the directions of the shows. Smackdown is more about getting new guys over..Raw is the show of stars, all that show is booked for is name value and keeping their big time guys out there as much as possible. Hardy has the IC belt right now just because... The belt would mean more if the rosters were more evenly split which each show having it's share of stars/young up and comers and all that but it isn't. Raw takes all the star power so everything about the show is that and any midcard type of belt is forgotten about. How many times has MVP actually defended the US Title on TV/PPV in his nearly year long reign? It can't be more than 10. Course Hardy doesn't actually defend the IC belt either... |
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Post by macdaddysquid on Mar 2, 2008 10:47:39 GMT -5
Well as champion you have Randy Orton of course. He feuds with Hbk, and loses it. So we can have either an HBK/HHH feud be it friendly or HEEL vs Face. this would be dated, but its all part of the big picture. HBK retains and Cena and HhH both want a shot so they feud for a while outside of title picture, while the stars made by cena's IC run battle HBK.
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Post by Mecca on Mar 2, 2008 10:48:04 GMT -5
And you wanna do this as an upper midcard out of the mainevent feud.... Who is champion and what's his feud...that is very important also. I know this sounds bad but the US title means more now than the IC title because of the directions of the shows. Smackdown is more about getting new guys over..Raw is the show of stars, all that show is booked for is name value and keeping their big time guys out there as much as possible. Hardy has the IC belt right now just because... The belt would mean more if the rosters were more evenly split which each show having it's share of stars/young up and comers and all that but it isn't. Raw takes all the star power so everything about the show is that and any midcard type of belt is forgotten about. How many times has MVP actually defended the US Title on TV/PPV in his nearly year long reign? It can't be more than 10. Course Hardy doesn't actually defend the IC belt either... Hardy getting hurt screwed it up because that was the feud, I think they decided to go with less defenses to keep the belt on him to resume the feud over the belt when Hardy returned... For him to have defended it alot he would have either had to get into another feud which creates problems or mow down a good number of wrestlers on his roster. |
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Post by Mecca on Mar 2, 2008 10:48:55 GMT -5
Well as champion you have Randy Orton of course. He feuds with Hbk, and loses it. So we can have either an HBK/HHH feud be it friendly or HEEL vs Face. this would be dated, but its all part of the big picture. HBK retains and Cena and HhH both want a shot so they feud for a while outside of title picture, while the stars made by cena's IC run battle HBK. Ok atleast you have a plan, other than you'd probably have to beg to get HBK to take the belt, from what I've heard he wants no part of being champion. |
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Post by macdaddysquid on Mar 2, 2008 10:55:22 GMT -5
Well as champion you have Randy Orton of course. He feuds with Hbk, and loses it. So we can have either an HBK/HHH feud be it friendly or HEEL vs Face. this would be dated, but its all part of the big picture. HBK retains and Cena and HhH both want a shot so they feud for a while outside of title picture, while the stars made by cena's IC run battle HBK. Ok atleast you have a plan, other than you'd probably have to beg to get HBK to take the belt, from what I've heard he wants no part of being champion. Well, HBK drops the belt to say Jericho, in another WM classic. Jericho runs with it for a while, wrestling Kennedy and Hardy. They could have some great matches. At this point Cena could be feuding with JBL and HHH and HBK can do something against management, once again this is dated but part of the bigger picture. |
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Post by Robbymac on Mar 2, 2008 11:22:58 GMT -5
seriously can we stop with this 1/2 the crowd boos him crap. Boos make a more distinctive sound in a crowd. If its 80-20 like I suspect it is in most arenas then its gonna sound 50/50. When its really 50/50 is those arenas where it sounds like he is getting booed out of the building (WM 22)
Cena is the most over guy in the company BY A MILE. Everyone reacts when he comes out. For him not to be at the top of the card in the #1 feud would be a monumental mistake.
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Post by macdaddysquid on Mar 2, 2008 11:35:50 GMT -5
seriously can we stop with this 1/2 the crowd boos him crap. Boos make a more distinctive sound in a crowd. If its 80-20 like I suspect it is in most arenas then its gonna sound 50/50. When its really 50/50 is those arenas where it sounds like he is getting booed out of the building (WM 22) Cena is the most over guy in the company BY A MILE. Everyone reacts when he comes out. For him not to be at the top of the card in the #1 feud would be a monumental mistake. You are acting like this is a hate thread, its not. Your point is exactly why he could FIX THE IC TITLE which was the point of this thread |
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Post by Mecca on Mar 2, 2008 11:38:18 GMT -5
I thought this thread was about prolonging Cena's appeal by letting him get into the background for a period before bringing him back up to the top...
I don't think there's any way to make the IC title mean more on the show. There's to many guys that are "above the title" because Raw is a show of about 15 maineventers and then jobbers.
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