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Post by chunkylover53 on Mar 19, 2008 11:13:11 GMT -5
Outside of Ric Flair(and possibly Rocky Johnson), this year seems like a weak class to me. Really? I think Rocky Johnson is by far the least deserving. even less deserving than Gerry Brisco I don't know about least deserving, I mean, him and Tony Atlas were the first African American tag team champions, so they made a mark on pro wrestling history. Plus, he's The Rock's dad, without him, you wouldn't have The Great One. The problem I have with this year's class is that most of the superstars didn't make their name in the WWF/E, I understand and support they are trying to reach all of professional wrestling, but still, it is a WWE Hall of Fame, they could induct some WWF stars from the 80s. |
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Post by BayleyTiffyCodyCenaJudyHopps on Mar 19, 2008 11:19:24 GMT -5
It seems like they're inducting a bunch of people most fans don't care about so no one can overshadow Flair. Outside of Ric Flair(and possibly Rocky Johnson), this year seems like a weak class to me. I dunno, I think the Briscoes induction gives this year some weight. |
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Post by Mac on Mar 19, 2008 11:30:39 GMT -5
Really? I think Rocky Johnson is by far the least deserving. even less deserving than Gerry Brisco I don't know about least deserving, I mean, him and Tony Atlas were the first African American tag team champions, so they made a mark on pro wrestling history. Plus, he's The Rock's dad, without him, you wouldn't have The Great One. The problem I have with this year's class is that most of the superstars didn't make their name in the WWF/E, I understand and support they are trying to reach all of professional wrestling, but still, it is a WWE Hall of Fame, they could induct some WWF stars from the 80s. I'll use your example of "without Rocky Johnson you dont get the Great one" as more of a reason why Rocky isn't really that deserving. I think they nominated Rock's dad and grandfather to get the Rock there. I truley believe if Rock never existed neither of these two would make it in |
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Post by crusherhogan on Mar 19, 2008 12:50:53 GMT -5
The problem I have with this year's class is that most of the superstars didn't make their name in the WWF/E, I understand and support they are trying to reach all of professional wrestling, but still, it is a WWE Hall of Fame, they could induct some WWF stars from the 80s. Championship Wrestling from Florida (where Eddie Graham and the Brisco Bros. come from) sold its video library to McMahon. After Verne Gagne sold his AWA tapes to McMahon he was inducted alongside Nick Bockwinkle into the WWE Hall of Fame. Those companies, along with others are now part of the WWE. I think its cool that these guys are part of the HOF. It helps the HOF look more prestigious and historical. I admit though, I'm pretty unmoved by this years class. I'm 28 years old. With the exception of Ric Flair, I didn't grow up watching these guys wrestle. Of course, the 70's guys shouldn't be ignored. Their contribution is worthy of acknowledgment. Many of us may not care about these guys, but I know my uncle has fond memories of watching the Brisco Brothers on TV and shaking Rocky Johnson's hand after a match. I'm sure if you ask older folks about the HOF this year, you would get more positive reactions. I have a feeling that next year they will honor more 80's guys. |
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Post by chunkylover53 on Mar 19, 2008 14:22:17 GMT -5
When should they start inducting Attitude Era guys?
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Post by Crappler El 0 M on Mar 19, 2008 14:50:28 GMT -5
Who would induct Solie (JR???) and then who would accept for him? JR would be the best inductor for him. One of more of his children could accept. |
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Post by Mac on Mar 19, 2008 15:12:59 GMT -5
Who would induct Solie (JR???) and then who would accept for him? JR would be the best inductor for him. One of more of his children could accept. Michael Cole could induct him. <runs> |
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Post by Joekishi on Mar 20, 2008 0:04:28 GMT -5
As far as the Funks go, Dory and Terry both definitely deserve it. Both are former NWA World Champions. I wouldn't care if they were inducted in separate years or in the same year. If it were the same year, then WWE could clarify that they are being inducted individually as well as for their legendary tag team. Someone like Foley could induct Terry and Dory could either be inducted by one of the trainees at Funkin Dojo or a legend like Harley Race or Dusty Rhodes. That way they both get specific induction videos, inductions, and acceptance speeches, yet they are inducted in the same year so as to honor their work as a tag team as well. That's what I'm thinking, or hoping for. If next year is in Texas, we need a TEXAS SIZED, HOF induction class. Funks, Hansen (hey you never know, I think they could get most of his All Japan footage, and they have that match with Hogan in their library), Fritz Von Erich, Gory Guerrero... Rocky Johnson was pretty big in the eighties, but then he was there before Hulkmania blew up |
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Post by lildude8218 on Mar 20, 2008 1:34:37 GMT -5
Even without the Rock, Rocky Johnson is a hall of famer. He was massively over, he fought Terry and Harley for the NWA title in the 70s.
And you wanna know how huge of an induction Eddie Graham is this year? The Orlando Sports Stadium was renamed the Eddie Graham Sports Complex. They named a freaking arena after the man in Orlando. It's only right that he get honored in this town.
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Post by Mac on Mar 20, 2008 7:24:47 GMT -5
Even without the Rock, Rocky Johnson is a hall of famer. He was massively over, he fought Terry and Harley for the NWA title in the 70s. And you wanna know how huge of an induction Eddie Graham is this year? The Orlando Sports Stadium was renamed the Eddie Graham Sports Complex. They named a freaking arena after the man in Orlando. It's only right that he get honored in this town. Theres a lot of people who fought world champions and were over. Guess we should induct Tor Kamada, Great Mortier, Antonio Pugliese, Bobby Duncum Sr, Bull Ramos, John Tolos and more people who fought for world titles. I just think I'd have higher standards of who to induct. No problem with Eddie Graham, he was an important part of wrestling history, i dont see Rocky Johnson in that manner. |
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Post by chunkylover53 on Mar 20, 2008 11:23:46 GMT -5
If next year is in Texas, we need a TEXAS SIZED, HOF induction class. Funks, Hansen (hey you never know, I think they could get most of his All Japan footage, and they have that match with Hogan in their library), Fritz Von Erich, Gory Guerrero... And don't forget the biggest Texan of all to headline the class..... www.youtube.com/watch?v=GnPFKmFovb8I would mark out like a school girl at an Aerosmith concert shall that happen. |
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Post by lildude8218 on Mar 20, 2008 13:27:21 GMT -5
Even without the Rock, Rocky Johnson is a hall of famer. He was massively over, he fought Terry and Harley for the NWA title in the 70s. And you wanna know how huge of an induction Eddie Graham is this year? The Orlando Sports Stadium was renamed the Eddie Graham Sports Complex. They named a freaking arena after the man in Orlando. It's only right that he get honored in this town. Theres a lot of people who fought world champions and were over. Guess we should induct Tor Kamada, Great Mortier, Antonio Pugliese, Bobby Duncum Sr, Bull Ramos, John Tolos and more people who fought for world titles. Not even close in trying to make a comparison there. But all you did was take what I said completely at face value anyway. |
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Post by Mac on Mar 20, 2008 13:59:41 GMT -5
Theres a lot of people who fought world champions and were over. Guess we should induct Tor Kamada, Great Mortier, Antonio Pugliese, Bobby Duncum Sr, Bull Ramos, John Tolos and more people who fought for world titles. Not even close in trying to make a comparison there. But all you did was take what I said completely at face value anyway. Im not sure how else to take it. Again, i wasnt diminishing Rocky Johnson for what he is/was I just thought most HOFs throughout the world inducted the absolute ELITES on their profession. Rocky Johnson doesn't come close to being an ELITE, no way no how. The equivalent I'd make is it would be like Frank Viola making it to the baseball HOF. |
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Post by chunkylover53 on Mar 20, 2008 14:27:58 GMT -5
Not even close in trying to make a comparison there. But all you did was take what I said completely at face value anyway. Im not sure how else to take it. Again, i wasnt diminishing Rocky Johnson for what he is/was I just thought most HOFs throughout the world inducted the absolute ELITES on their profession. Rocky Johnson doesn't come close to being an ELITE, no way no how. The equivalent I'd make is it would be like Frank Viola making it to the baseball HOF. All Hall of Fames are questionable in one way or another. The Baseball Hall of Fame won't induct Pete Rose due to gambling, but well known drug addicts and racists are in. |
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Post by Mac on Mar 20, 2008 15:32:05 GMT -5
Im not sure how else to take it. Again, i wasnt diminishing Rocky Johnson for what he is/was I just thought most HOFs throughout the world inducted the absolute ELITES on their profession. Rocky Johnson doesn't come close to being an ELITE, no way no how. The equivalent I'd make is it would be like Frank Viola making it to the baseball HOF. All Hall of Fames are questionable in one way or another. The Baseball Hall of Fame won't induct Pete Rose due to gambling, but well known drug addicts and racists are in. Pete Rose isn't in because he's banned from baseball and not allowed to be inducted. Thats because baseball deemed he had a deleterious effect on the game with his gambling. I dont know of any character flaws with Rocky Johnson and I know theres no sceince, no nomination period into getting wrestlers into the WWE hall of fame, its more politics and whos in Vince's favor at the time. I just think, in my opinion, that the best of the best should be in the hall of fame to make it ELITE. Rocky Johnson isn't among the elite. |
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Post by Crappler El 0 M on Mar 20, 2008 16:10:30 GMT -5
I completely agree with Mackind that the WWE is not exclusively for the elite in wrestling. Personally it doesn't bother me in the least as I like that these non-elite wrestlers are getting something special for their years of hard work. However, I just wonder if you were as bothered by other "non-elites" that have already been inducted as you seem to be about High Chief Maivia and Rocky Johnson being inducted. They are certainly not the first two "non-elites" to be inducted. You seem to repeatedly question their inductions and WWE's motives for inducting them? Were you as bothered with the inductions of guys like Johnny Rodz, Bob Orton, Tony Atlas, and the Black Jacks?
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Post by Mac on Mar 20, 2008 17:49:49 GMT -5
I completely agree with Mackind that the WWE is not exclusively for the elite in wrestling. Personally it doesn't bother me in the least as I like that these non-elite wrestlers are getting something special for their years of hard work. However, I just wonder if you were as bothered by other "non-elites" that have already been inducted as you seem to be about High Chief Maivia and Rocky Johnson being inducted. They are certainly not the first two "non-elites" to be inducted. You seem to repeatedly question their inductions and WWE's motives for inducting them? Were you as bothered with the inductions of guys like Johnny Rodz, Bob Orton, Tony Atlas, and the Black Jacks? Johnny Rodz still remains a brain scratcher. Bob Orton although he was the 4th man in on probably the hottest rivalry in the WWE in the mid 80s seemed to lose with great frequency. In fact I dont remember Orton ever winning a match outside of a jobber beating. My guess is they're going to elect pretty much every "superstar" who hasnt burned bridges from the 80s. and 5 - 10 years from now we'll be seeing the same thing with the Attitude Era guys. |
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Post by Cranjis McBasketball on Mar 21, 2008 0:51:15 GMT -5
Time for a timeout to remind everyone the Hall of Fame is for the wrestlers. The whole company is really for the fans, but the HOF is for the wrestlers. They happen to allow us to be there to help honor these people, but the HOF is really the one thing just for the wrestlers, announcers, managers, promoters and what have you.
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Post by seano on Mar 21, 2008 8:33:22 GMT -5
Johnny Rodz still remains a brain scratcher. 2 things: 1) he was/is a trainer. The WWF/E has great respect for guys who retire and then train future generations of wrestlers. In Rodz's case, he trained guys like Tommy Dreamer, the Dudleyz and Tazz. 2) hindsight is 20/20. Maybe back in '96 his induction made more sense than it does in '08...? |
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Post by Mac on Mar 21, 2008 9:08:59 GMT -5
Johnny Rodz still remains a brain scratcher. 2 things: 1) he was/is a trainer. The WWF/E has great respect for guys who retire and then train future generations of wrestlers. In Rodz's case, he trained guys like Tommy Dreamer, the Dudleyz and Tazz. 2) hindsight is 20/20. Maybe back in '96 his induction made more sense than it does in '08...? I get the trainer thing, but Mike Shaw is a trainer and I doubt we'll be seeing a Bastion Booger induction. |
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