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Post by Spankymac is sick of the swiss on Oct 18, 2008 10:49:01 GMT -5
Micheal Bay should have not been able to make a movie about Pearl Harbor. Someone else should have done that movie. Darn Michael Bay and his banal lines. I personally don't think Michael Bay should be able to make movies period.
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Post by THE Dinobot on Oct 18, 2008 10:56:35 GMT -5
I personally don't think Michael Bay should be able to make movies period. Technically, if he focused more on the robots, for the big time summer blackbusters they're supposed to be, no one is better than Bay to helm something like Transformers, so gets a pass from me for that. Now, my finger of blame goes to Bryan Singer for both X-Men and Superman. Most noticeably the two X-Men movies, they're so baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa--*breaths*--aaaaaaad. Save for Hugh Jackman and James Marsden the faces were awfully cast. Ray Park as Toad is the only fine part on the Brotherhood side, but didn't do anything. The stories were lame-o. So bland.
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Post by Mozenrath on Oct 18, 2008 11:00:08 GMT -5
Test was a decent Sabertooth.
Yes, I'm aware that's not actually Test, but I can't be the only one who thinks of Test there.
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Post by Spankymac is sick of the swiss on Oct 18, 2008 11:05:30 GMT -5
I think Ian McKellan made a great Magneto, to the point where I can't think of anyone else who could make that role work.
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Post by darthalexander on Oct 18, 2008 11:12:28 GMT -5
To the people complaining about A.I. : it's not that Kubrick gave it to Spielberg, he was dead. He wanted to make it for years (Kubrick) but actually wanted a robot boy to be the star but the technology was never there. He felt that a child actor would age through the filming of the movie and he didn't want that, he wanted the child to remain the same age throughout.
The ending bothered me too, but apparently that is how Kubrick wanted it.
I have no idea what the hell Joel was thinking when he made the Batman movies. God those were awful.
I'll make an early prediction, but I bet Brett Ratner will totally ruin God of War.
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Post by The Divan Kopile on Oct 18, 2008 11:14:42 GMT -5
It takes more than one person to ruin a movie.
Unless you have super clout like say, a Spielberg, you got Producers and Writers and Executives and sometimes Actors contributing to an abortion of a film. Just because the director did it, the producers and studio heads are just as much at fault for not saying NO or for even greenlighting the terrible script to begin with.
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Post by aka Cthulhu on Oct 18, 2008 11:45:36 GMT -5
It takes more than one person to ruin a movie. Uwe Boll? Sorry, I'm pretty dense when it comes to movies so that's the only name that popped up in my head.
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Post by The Divan Kopile on Oct 18, 2008 11:58:46 GMT -5
he gets to make movies because of tax laws.
blame german government for that.
makes 'em insanely cheap, makes a bunch of money off it no matter what.
plus, again, PEOPLE CHOOSE TO DISTRIBUTE HIS MOVIES.
So really, blame distributors for Uwe Boll's movies for ever being released in America.
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Post by Jedi-El of Tomorrow on Oct 18, 2008 12:11:23 GMT -5
Micheal Bay should have not been able to make a movie about Pearl Harbor. Someone else should have done that movie. Darn Michael Bay and his banal lines. I personally don't think Michael Bay should be able to make movies period. He did give us The Rock, Bad Boys and Bad Boys II.
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Post by Maidpool w/ Cleaning Action on Oct 18, 2008 12:15:57 GMT -5
I like how half this list so far contains movies that are generally considered good by auidences and/or critics.
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Post by Jiren on Oct 18, 2008 12:21:46 GMT -5
Micheal Bay
All his movies sucked
Also I'd like to throw in Tim Story for the abysmal Fantastic four movies
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Post by Xbox Live's Original Heel! on Oct 18, 2008 12:25:00 GMT -5
I've always liked the Spiderman movies. Spiderman action scenes throughout, with the story of Peter Parker taking overall importance. Spiderman 3 was stupid though... no Venom was needed. In fact, when the movie franchise was started, Raimi stated that Venom would have no place in his movies. Well, thanks to the Studios for wanting more money, the fanboys got their wish, and we got a crappy movie.
The thing that always gets me is the alot of people love the Spiderman movies, but they hate Superman Returns. IT"S THE SAME TYPE OF MOVIE! A romance story with action scenes scattered through.
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Post by sryans on Oct 18, 2008 12:28:41 GMT -5
I've always liked the Spiderman movies. Spiderman action scenes throughout, with the story of Peter Parker taking overall importance. Spiderman 3 was stupid though... no Venom was needed. In fact, when the movie franchise was started, Raimi stated that Venom would have no place in his movies. Well, thanks to the Studios for wanting more money, the fanboys got their wish, and we got a crappy movie. The thing that always gets me is the alot of people love the Spiderman movies, but they hate Superman Returns. IT"S THE SAME TYPE OF MOVIE! A romance story with action scenes scattered through. The romance (and action) in the Spiderman movies were better than the Superman sequel. I have no idea how anyone could hate Spiderman 1 and 2. 2 especially, some of the action in that movie is phenomenal.
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Post by The Lodger on Oct 18, 2008 12:39:01 GMT -5
I agree with the statement that it's not always the directing, sometimes it's the writing. That being said, sometimes people do both, that really can't do either, so here we go.
George Lucas - The Prequliogy, if this didn't convince the populous that Lucas was just a tech geek who had a hell of a lot of business foresight, than nothing will. Seriously, Star Wars and American Grafitti are the two movies that Lucas directly had his hands on that were any good. Yeah, Howard the Duck was awful too. George Lucas = overrated.
Michael Bay - See: Anything he has done. The man is a menace and needs to be stopped before he ruins another 80s franchise. Seriously, he is one, we are many, let's stop him before his produces another cinematic abortion.
Brent Ratner - I don't know what things this guy did to get a job in this industry, but he must be better at that than making films. The guy couldn't direct himself out of a paper bag.
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Post by The Divan Kopile on Oct 18, 2008 12:44:55 GMT -5
look Michael Bay is a great director
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Post by HMARK Center on Oct 18, 2008 13:44:01 GMT -5
I've always liked the Spiderman movies. Spiderman action scenes throughout, with the story of Peter Parker taking overall importance. Spiderman 3 was stupid though... no Venom was needed. In fact, when the movie franchise was started, Raimi stated that Venom would have no place in his movies. Well, thanks to the Studios for wanting more money, the fanboys got their wish, and we got a crappy movie. The thing that always gets me is the alot of people love the Spiderman movies, but they hate Superman Returns. IT"S THE SAME TYPE OF MOVIE! A romance story with action scenes scattered through. The romance (and action) in the Spiderman movies were better than the Superman sequel. I have no idea how anyone could hate Spiderman 1 and 2. 2 especially, some of the action in that movie is phenomenal. The only problem with 2 was that the love story got a bit frustrating after awhile. It wasn't bad, it was just a case of, near the end, the audience feeling like "Ok, we get it." But Molina ruled as Ock.
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Post by Lick Ness Monster on Oct 18, 2008 13:56:11 GMT -5
*"X-Men: The Last Stand" - Brett Ratner A lot of people blame Ratner for how bad that movie was, but I actually think the REVERSE is true in that case. It's that flick's HORRENDOUSLY AWFUL script that killed it - Ratner just filmed it, so I fail to see how it was his fault.
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Post by Maidpool w/ Cleaning Action on Oct 18, 2008 14:00:27 GMT -5
*"X-Men: The Last Stand" - Brett Ratner A lot of people blame Ratner for how bad that movie was, but I actually think the REVERSE is true in that case. It's that flick's HORRENDOUSLY AWFUL script that killed it - Ratner just filmed it, so I fail to see how it was his fault. The script killed that movie. There was TO MUCH going on (we had enough storylines that could have made 2-3 movies) and TO MANY people being introduced (Angel, Beast, Juggernaut, Spike, Kitty, Moria, Calypso, Porcupine Boy over there, Arclight, Morlocks, etc). Brett Ratner filled in for Singer at the last minute and had to work with the cards he was delt. I think he did a fine job for having no time at all to revise the script, being dropped in the middle of the whole production and told "GO!"
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Post by The Divan Kopile on Oct 18, 2008 14:10:41 GMT -5
no he filled in for Matthew Vaughn. He was the third director of a movie that was purposely rushed to beat Superman Returns to theaters.
what he CAN be blamed for is all the deleted scenes that had you know, character moments, instead of HOLY MOLEY! ANOTHER FIGHT. However, that too, is questionable since Fox might have decided to butcher it in editing, and not him.
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Post by Jiren on Oct 18, 2008 14:16:14 GMT -5
My major beef with X3 was condensing 2 MAJOR X-men storylines (Phoenix & Anti mutant) into 1hr 40 mins.
All 3 X-men movies were crap anyway
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