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Post by The Immoral One on Oct 21, 2008 18:19:58 GMT -5
You know I'm really pissed about how Adamle has played out. i thought he was going to be the George Bush of WWE. An incompetent idiot who is basically just a figurehead for Shane and Steph. I thought he would have no control what so ever and screw shit up even worse then the anarchy era..... instead hes just bland and boring.
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Post by Hulk With A Mustache on Oct 21, 2008 18:20:47 GMT -5
How can Monday Night Football not be the reason for RAW's low rating when MNF got a bigger rating than RAW and usually takes their viewers?
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Post by Loki on Oct 21, 2008 18:21:51 GMT -5
I blame it on the fact this is the "offest" time of WWE's "off-season".
The huge feud of the summer (Jericho v HBK) is paused, and rightfully so, after some pretty good stuff, just waiting to resume it at full speed for the Survivor Series or, likely, for NYR and the Rumble.
Cena is still out injured, Randy Orton is hanging around but not wrestling (or appearing in decent capacity).
So it's just Batista (again), JBL (who's now stuck wrestling The Chaasmaleon), CM Punk and the whole flock of young midcarders. And Santino feuding with old geezers...
In 6 days there's the gimmickest and most forgettable PPV of the year, and the buildup for said lackluster show can't be anything but lackluster and forgettable.
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Post by primetime110 on Oct 21, 2008 18:32:30 GMT -5
For once I thought the draft hurt Raw. People call it the A show because its been on longer than SD.
It's like SD is the "B" show with the"A" talent. Raw is the "A" show with the "B" talent.
Cena out hurts Raw. Mickie is being misused. Alot of people won't admit this, But losing HHH may have been the biggest blow to Raw.
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Post by timebomb on Oct 21, 2008 18:35:50 GMT -5
Raw is missing their top 3 people. Cena, Orton, Vince. Terrible booking and awful Adamle don't help.
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Post by CuJ0 Will Keep Dancing on Oct 21, 2008 18:42:06 GMT -5
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Post by MichaelMartini on Oct 21, 2008 18:44:02 GMT -5
I hate to type this but heel Jericho has been a total bust. Why can't he be the awesome WCW era version? Why does he have to be a clone of boring, serious heel HHH or Orton with the same monotous promos?
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Post by MGH on Oct 21, 2008 18:57:32 GMT -5
Maybe this is just me, but it's been eating at me for a while now. It's beyond me how anyone can try and pin these ratings on Jericho and Jericho alone.
Watch an Adamle promo, a JBL promo, and a Jericho promo in succession. Adamle is getting "WHAT?!"ed left and right. JBL has even started getting "WHAT?!"ed over getting legit booed out of buildings like he used to. Then there's Jericho. He isn't getting "WHAT?" chants. He isn't getting "BOOOOOOORING" chants. Look out in to the crowd. These people are rabidly booing his ass off most weeks, and they're sitting and standing intently listening to every word he says. People are in to him. They're in to this character and they're in to what he has to say.
I get that there's a very vocal minority on this board in particular who hate this version of Jericho. It's fine, but it's starting to get the same way as people who seem to have nothing better to do but call everything "OVERATED!". You don't like Jericho, it's fine. Say so. Trying to project it on everyone else when anyone watching Raw can see otherwise just isn't going to make any sense, and it doesn't.
Every single person in creative, on the roster, and in management has to take heat for these ratings not at least being in the low 4's which is not any kind of absurd area to be shooting towards. But trying to throw anything resembling a MAJORITY of this blame on Jericho and his performances isn't logical. WWE should be thankful they have him. Aside from John Cena and Batista he's the biggest reason for most anyone to tune in and watch Raw.
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Post by EoE: Workin On My Night Cheese on Oct 21, 2008 19:00:44 GMT -5
I hate to type this but heel Jericho has been a total bust. Why can't he be the awesome WCW era version? Why does he have to be a clone of boring, serious heel HHH or Orton with the same monotous promos? The irony being that he supposedly came back to "SAVE_US" from the boring, serious heel with the same monotonous promos. |
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Post by The Immoral One on Oct 21, 2008 19:18:20 GMT -5
Jericho is not bad... but he seems like a neutered heel. I thought they were going to make him more of a delusional/cult leader like character.
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Post by Krimzon on Oct 21, 2008 19:21:34 GMT -5
I hate to type this but heel Jericho has been a total bust. Why can't he be the awesome WCW era version? Why does he have to be a clone of boring, serious heel HHH or Orton with the same monotous promos? That's the way they book him. Not his fault. If he were still "Y2J," he'd be much more entertaining as a heel. I didn't even bother with RAW's Main Event. I was curious at first, but it just went WAY south. Adamle jumping the gun before Jericho faced Regal was hilarious. I was too busy enjoying the rout of the Broncos by the Patriots to bother with the rest. It just didn't seem like something worth seeing. Not a good way to end the go-home show before a PPV. |
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Post by King Boo on Oct 21, 2008 19:24:08 GMT -5
Maybe this is just me, but it's been eating at me for a while now. It's beyond me how anyone can try and pin these ratings on Jericho and Jericho alone. Watch an Adamle promo, a JBL promo, and a Jericho promo in succession. Adamle is getting "WHAT?!"ed left and right. JBL has even started getting "WHAT?!"ed over getting legit booed out of buildings like he used to. Then there's Jericho. He isn't getting "WHAT?" chants. He isn't getting "BOOOOOOORING" chants. Look out in to the crowd. These people are rabidly booing his ass off most weeks, and they're sitting and standing intently listening to every word he says. People are in to him. They're in to this character and they're in to what he has to say. I get that there's a very vocal minority on this board in particular who hate this version of Jericho. It's fine, but it's starting to get the same way as people who seem to have nothing better to do but call everything "OVERATED!". You don't like Jericho, it's fine. Say so. Trying to project it on everyone else when anyone watching Raw can see otherwise just isn't going to make any sense, and it doesn't. Every single person in creative, on the roster, and in management has to take heat for these ratings not at least being in the low 4's which is not any kind of absurd area to be shooting towards. But trying to throw anything resembling a MAJORITY of this blame on Jericho and his performances isn't logical. WWE should be thankful they have him. Aside from John Cena and Batista he's the biggest reason for most anyone to tune in and watch Raw. Thank you for calmly stating what I wouldn't have been able to calmly say. |
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Post by New Age Outlaw on Oct 21, 2008 19:34:42 GMT -5
My interest in the WWE is at an all-time (20 year) low. Somehow the manage to keep getting worse and worse. I think I may be done.
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Post by rydndirty on Oct 21, 2008 19:35:57 GMT -5
It's because no one cares about Batista's 9 millionth PPV title shot. But it will be blamed on Jericho, lack of Shawn Michaels, and somehow CM Punk. Actually, I blame CM Punk. Nah, I don't actually blame Punk. Still don't like the guy, but I don't blame him. |
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Post by Lenny: Smooth like Keith Stone on Oct 21, 2008 19:48:55 GMT -5
I really just think WWE as a whole is stale and honestly boring right now. I've been a diehard WWE/WWF fan since 1985, and this is the second time in my lifetime where I have little to no interest in it. The first time I lost interest was in the early 90's during the Max Moon and Papa Shango days. I started watching again around the time of the Bret-Owen feud which was incredible.
Typically I never miss Raw... and if I'm not home on a Monday, then I'd record it. Nowadays, even when I'm home on Monday I don't always watch it. The problem is not with any one guy in particular -- it's not Jericho's fault, it's not CM Punk's fault, it's not Batista's fault, it's not Val Venis' fault -- the problem is with the programming as a whole. It is just too routine and predictable for me.
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Post by Jiren on Oct 21, 2008 20:56:48 GMT -5
I blame Adamle. The show was so full of epic win when there was no GM and anarchy was reigning. Now it's just back to the same old boring predictable crap. I agree with that. The whole anarchy storyline was great and even pissy smarks got a kick out of it because it was new and entertaining, but now we have Adamle as GM were back to square one. |
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Post by Ringmaster on Oct 21, 2008 21:07:48 GMT -5
Good thing I did not watch it, the build up to Cyber Sunday (and the PPV itself) is not in my interest. It might be sad, but true, that when John Cena gets back the rating might get a bump. Ands incase you forget he's returning they are more then happy to remind you 3 times a show, his laughter alone rescued a busfull of orphans that happen to be carring baskets of kittens and puppies. |
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Post by Jiren on Oct 21, 2008 21:09:05 GMT -5
Good thing I did not watch it, the build up to Cyber Sunday (and the PPV itself) is not in my interest. It might be sad, but true, that when John Cena gets back the rating might get a bump. his laughter alone rescued a busfull of orphans that happen to be carring baskets of kittens and puppies. That's gonna be on Next weeks Cena returns video |
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Post by Mac on Oct 21, 2008 21:15:02 GMT -5
How many times are we going to watch this formula repeat itself.
Heel interview.... UH OH! here comes the face... "I'll beat you" "I'll beat you"..
commercial
Divas tag match
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Kane or Rey fight, or Kane and Rey might on opposing sides of a tag match
commercial
JBL does an interview and beats someone up
commercial
Santino does Honk o Meter
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CM Punk/Kofi Kingston, Priceless, Cryme Tyme.... do something with them, tag match.. singles match, triple threat.
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Clustersmurf of a main event
Now if WWE was operating with guys who were just instant draws thats fine. But NONE of these guys are just so insanely over that they can make a bland storyline into something special. If you've been watching RAW the past month whats listed above is what you'll see.
And Im sorry fair or not, wrestling fans seem to be getting pretty bored with the standard one guy beats up one guy one week and vice versa the next until the PPV formula.
I dont think WWE is dying, but when your fanbase is dwindling and you're just sticking to the same crap this week that people werent really into last week you're going to slowly start turning people away, and overtime those numbers add up
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Post by twiggy101 on Oct 21, 2008 21:49:00 GMT -5
I wonder if the show got low ratings because people who can't vote for the Cyber Sunday PPV don't care about what goes on TV.
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