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Post by randomranter on Sept 14, 2008 18:56:30 GMT -5
You sound like you really know your stuff, but I think I'm going to give Jake the benefit of the doubt here. He seems like he's got his stuff together. Maybe he has allergies or something of the like? Like I said above, this isn't a first for Jake. This incident and the Heroes incident are the two most well known. But Jake has a reputation for showing up for work in no shape to compete. There have been reports of him showing up for events demanding that the promoter score him some drugs or he won't perform. Check out "Beyond the mat" for even more. This isn't an isolated incident. Sadly, this is almost par-for-the-course for Jake, who is nothing more than a run-down, drug-addicted wrestler who cannot control his demons and cannot control himself.
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Post by The Genesis of KoOS on Sept 14, 2008 18:57:42 GMT -5
"You wanna play 21? I got 22!"
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Post by randomranter on Sept 14, 2008 18:58:54 GMT -5
"You wanna play 21? I got 22!" You wanna play Blackjack? I've got two of those too!
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Post by George Harrison on Sept 14, 2008 20:01:41 GMT -5
I don't see it being "Smark bait," after all we've seen from Jake. From his old WWF days, to Beyond the Mat, Heroes Of Wrestling & whatever else we've heard. blog.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=blog.view&friendID=121691064&blogID=432803856There's the blog of the wrestler he was in the ring with, JT Lightening. After reading that, I don't think I like the JT guy - I dunno, he just seems to be attacking Jake so much. I'm not saying anything different what I've already said, but Jake has problems of his own, airing such things wont help. As many people say about musicians Pete Doherty & Amy Winehouse, if they weren't watched so much they'd be forgotton about to clean up their own act. I hope to God some people forget about Jake for a few years. & also, if this was "smark bait" it would be somewhat stupid. Expressing Jakes "Demons" and running with them, it's not reeling in smark it's reeling in wrestling fans who once cared for Jake. If this was WWE or TNA, I think we'd all be enthralled by the performance, but as it's small-time indie, we're losing interest in the man as a whole. Personally, I know I keep posting here lol, but I am becoming thoroughly apathetic towards this whole debacle.
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Post by Can you afford to pay me, Gah on Sept 14, 2008 21:14:14 GMT -5
I doubt it because the guy he wrestled said that he smelled like I quote "Alchol and Piss". The fact that the fans where booing. The match lasted 30 secs. The wrestler was pissed off at him.
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Professor Chaos
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Post by Professor Chaos on Sept 14, 2008 21:23:34 GMT -5
Vince should sign Jake to feud with CM Punk. I'd watch.
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Post by Ultimo Chocula on Sept 14, 2008 22:16:24 GMT -5
Early? Compared to some of the other guys who have died young, he's an old man compared to them. I mean smurf he out lived guys like Eddie, Pillman, Bulldog, etc. Jake is the Keith Richards of wrestling. How the hell is he not dead? Nope, Jake Roberts is GG Allin. Keith Richards can still put on a show. Much like Allin, Roberts' draw is more to watch a man self destruct than wrestle a match. Sadly, he'll probably end up the same as Allin.
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Post by Aaron E. Dangerously on Sept 14, 2008 23:18:18 GMT -5
from Impact Wrestling I had some respect for Jake after the Rehab stint but I've lost all respect for this assclown Damn. I thought there was more to the coherent Raw reviews. I was wrong.
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Post by SWH - Shane Hero on Sept 15, 2008 3:23:42 GMT -5
It's sad to see Jake has fallen off the wagon again. Tragic that such a talented man has such self destructive problems.
However in this case, I think the promoters are idiots. The knew booking Jake that he has a history of alcohol abuse. It wouldn't have been a shock that he had been drinking all night, they would have seen it. He shouldn't have been allowed out in front of the crowd in that state.
Does that nobody indy wrestler in the match with him think he's a tough guy for shooting on an old guy who's that drunk? Jake being unprofessional enough to show up drunk doesn't make it right to then act just as unprofessional by stiffing him and abusing him. He just shouldn't have been allowed out the curtain. Apologize to the fans, tell them Jake is drunk and can't perform. But there's no need to send him out there in that state. It's no wonder they got a crap match, and had him exposing himself to the crowd.
I really hope for Jake's sake he can pull himself together some day. He's had a messed up life in a lot of respects, but he has had many chances to make something of it. It's a damn shame.
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Post by Professor Chaos on Sept 15, 2008 4:25:43 GMT -5
I remember the sympathy angle with him in 1996.... 12 years later when he's no better off makes me think smurf him just go to hell already. It's a shame when so many legends have already passed on because of "their demons" yet this jackass still is alive and well being an a-hole. What an ingrate.
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Post by George Harrison on Sept 15, 2008 5:29:00 GMT -5
It's sad to see Jake has fallen off the wagon again. Tragic that such a talented man has such self destructive problems. However in this case, I think the promoters are idiots. The knew booking Jake that he has a history of alcohol abuse. It wouldn't have been a shock that he had been drinking all night, they would have seen it. He shouldn't have been allowed out in front of the crowd in that state. Does that nobody indy wrestler in the match with him think he's a tough guy for shooting on an old guy who's that drunk? Jake being unprofessional enough to show up drunk doesn't make it right to then act just as unprofessional by stiffing him and abusing him. He just shouldn't have been allowed out the curtain. Apologize to the fans, tell them Jake is drunk and can't perform. But there's no need to send him out there in that state. It's no wonder they got a crap match, and had him exposing himself to the crowd. I really hope for Jake's sake he can pull himself together some day. He's had a messed up life in a lot of respects, but he has had many chances to make something of it. It's a damn shame. I believe, as the guy says in his blog, that they couldn't keep Jake backstage and were reported to of heard from somebody on Jakes team that he could still go when he's like that. Which, in itself, sounds absolutely ludicrous lol!
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Post by Dan Apache on Sept 15, 2008 6:40:56 GMT -5
This certainly seems out-of-character for Jake. You appear unaware that the Jake in question is Jake Roberts. It's perfectly in character.
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Post by blef on Sept 15, 2008 7:53:54 GMT -5
I'm done with caring about Jake anymore. He's been given chance after chance and then Vince pays for him to go into rehab. And just when you think he's turning his life around, he goes and does something like this. How many chances can you give this guy? I have to agree. You really would think the guy would learn by now, after countless stints in rehab. Some people are just doomed. Sucks - I always liked Jake. But it's clear he can't make it normally. I'm just praying when he passes, it's not in a violent drugtastic manner, and that it's in his sleep. Give him some peace, God, at least at his end, and don't give us a horrible final memory to remember him by.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 15, 2008 8:21:49 GMT -5
With regards to everyone saying how they've "lost all respect" for Jake, and so forth, I think it's past the point where respect is even a concern. Jake doesn't need respect, he needs mercy. I understand how tragic a downfall he's had. And his behavior at the show was truly and completely unacceptable. But I forgive him for it. Again, unacceptable, and proof positive that any booker is playing with fire by even considering hiring him. My 'respect', he doesn't need. It would be wasted anyways, since it's clear he cannot even respect himself first.
What a damn dirty shame.
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Post by Johnny Danger (Godz) on Sept 15, 2008 9:19:40 GMT -5
Now before everyone jumps all over Jake....this bulletin was sent out today from his official MySpace page.
"Jake was booked at a show this weekend in Cleveland. He went to this show, doing a live interview earlier in the morning for the promotion, that by all reports went very smoothly. His appearance at the show did not.
Before I tell you what I know about what happened to him at the show, and that knowledge is very limited, I was not there, I will tell you this. Jake's behavior would normally be construed as completely unacceptible. I understand from the promoter that he spend endless time wandering back and forth to the bar. Jake took his rehab from the WWE very seriously, and has not done such a thing in months, so this behavior made me really scratch my head as to the REASON. My sincere apologies go out to JC, the over the top kind natured promoter who did nothing to deserve this, and has been nothing but kind to Jake, and by association, myself as well. My sincere apologies to the fine fans of Cleveland, you did not deserve this at all.
That for this, again. Jake was given an open container of what he was told was a cold drink. That happened when he got to the venue. He remembers nothing between that time, and the time he woke up the next morning in the motel, alone, beaten, injured. I had a really fun time getting him back on the same page, by phone, to just get him to the airport to try to get back home. It was a constant string of conversation just to get him to MOVE. This is not how he behaves ever. On his worst days, Jake has always had total recall.
Jake was drugged. He has been home since Saturday afternoon about 4:30PM and up until last night about 8:30PM, had not eaten or slept. His standard answer for everything the last two days has been "I don't know. " That is the other side of the story, folks, believe it or not, it is certainly your choice. I'm dealing with the guy they sent home, and folks, it is frightening to both me, and to him, and really not much fun. To the guy's that did this, and I say this often when confronted with sub-human behavior, something I see far too often I'm sorry to say, God's a funny guy. You'll get yours, I have no doubt at all.
Thank you for reading.
Shannon, Jake's assistant Team Snake"
I dunno how true that is, but, there you go.
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Post by Mr T L Wolf on Sept 15, 2008 10:45:33 GMT -5
I hope he still does his Raw Reviews. Didn't Pillman so this in the 90s but go one further?...... So the legend goes lol All that really happened is he told Joey Styles he was going to piss on the ECW ring, and got his fly undone when officials and Styles stopped him. The promo is on the Pillman DVD
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Post by Professor Chaos on Sept 15, 2008 12:00:47 GMT -5
Now before everyone jumps all over Jake....this bulletin was sent out today from his official MySpace page. "Jake was booked at a show this weekend in Cleveland. He went to this show, doing a live interview earlier in the morning for the promotion, that by all reports went very smoothly. His appearance at the show did not. Before I tell you what I know about what happened to him at the show, and that knowledge is very limited, I was not there, I will tell you this. Jake's behavior would normally be construed as completely unacceptible. I understand from the promoter that he spend endless time wandering back and forth to the bar. Jake took his rehab from the WWE very seriously, and has not done such a thing in months, so this behavior made me really scratch my head as to the REASON. My sincere apologies go out to JC, the over the top kind natured promoter who did nothing to deserve this, and has been nothing but kind to Jake, and by association, myself as well. My sincere apologies to the fine fans of Cleveland, you did not deserve this at all. That for this, again. Jake was given an open container of what he was told was a cold drink. That happened when he got to the venue. He remembers nothing between that time, and the time he woke up the next morning in the motel, alone, beaten, injured. I had a really fun time getting him back on the same page, by phone, to just get him to the airport to try to get back home. It was a constant string of conversation just to get him to MOVE. This is not how he behaves ever. On his worst days, Jake has always had total recall. Jake was drugged. He has been home since Saturday afternoon about 4:30PM and up until last night about 8:30PM, had not eaten or slept. His standard answer for everything the last two days has been "I don't know. " That is the other side of the story, folks, believe it or not, it is certainly your choice. I'm dealing with the guy they sent home, and folks, it is frightening to both me, and to him, and really not much fun. To the guy's that did this, and I say this often when confronted with sub-human behavior, something I see far too often I'm sorry to say, God's a funny guy. You'll get yours, I have no doubt at all. Thank you for reading. Shannon, Jake's assistant Team Snake" I dunno how true that is, but, there you go. Awesome... Jake did nothing wrong! Hip Hip... Horray. Hip Hip... Horray. Here Ye Here Ye, I now proclaim Jake Roberts and martyr. I'd love to see him destroy whoever did this to him.
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Post by azrael502 on Sept 15, 2008 13:38:34 GMT -5
what a f***n mess, to put it bluntly. i was schedualed to wrestle jake "the snake" roberts for firestorm pro last nite. heres the story. the whole story and the only story. i basically ending up babysitting jake. when i first got there, with my kids, i introduced myself to him and he seemed ok. he shook my sons hand and asked him if he was queer....probably cause mike didnt shake his hand "fully". he laughed, figuring hes ribbing him, so we went on our way. so a little bit of time went by and we went to the back and just basically were shooting the shit with john mcchesney....he kept sending boys to go and get him drinks.....no biggie, right....it gets better......soooo, j.c brings us all together for the meeting to discuss what is expected for the nite and then jake comes forth and gives his little speech, basically saying, we have a great opportunity to achieve something special tonite, not to blow it. dont do stuff thats not believable. his example was, him getting drunk with mcchesney and ending up with a midget and thats what he had to tell his girlfriend...anotherwards...its not believeable....the boys popped for his , seemingly sincere comments. well, he never fell through with his own words as he quickly deteriated into worthless piece of shit.....so, the v.i.p. session started and he went up to the front to do his merch. when he got back, he was a little bit more on the "toasted" side. slurring speech etc. so the next thing you know, we are in the back and hes dropping his shorts and walking with his "junk" out. funny shit. not! so he changes and we start discussing our match and hes nixing the idea i had, then he agreed, then he disagreed, then finally agreed. he was sweating beyond belief. he tells me, "get me somewhere cool." hes like standing outside swaying back and forth and then he finally settles on the hood of a car. he tells me, "dont leave me, dont let me fall, dont leave me.....". then he asks me where i live. i tell him and then he asks me if i can get him an 8-ball. then he tells me, hes had "25 shots". i dont know if he did or not, but numbers dont matter here. ..so i basically blow that idea off as he passes in and out. some fans come over and ask him for a picture. jake , says, "picture this," and grabs his crotch....im like, geez, what the f*** am i gonna do with this guy? i can work with anyone, as long as they listen, but dude, wasnt havent it. so we make it back into the theatre where he starts to tell me what were gonna do again......which is NOTHING, like what we called earlier. then all of a sudden he spits out HIS FALSE TEETH!!!! they fall on the floor and hes out again. i look at vince and vince goes"theres ur boy!".... funny vince. so i grab my camera and take a picture of this. no one would believe this.....then during ray rowes entrance where he goes out with a posse, jake passes out on the floor and literally rolls over on his side and grabs one of the posses feet and holds on.....oh, boy.......i go tell jc whats going on and he calls his agent right then and there and was told"jake can still go when hes like that, dont worry"........what the f***....then jake wakes up only to think its our turn and when i inform him we still had 45 minutes to go yet, he starts screaming" f*** him, im gonna kill him. motherf***...." jake goes out to the commentators table and starts doing screwed up stuff on the mic telling the workers in the match to go for it, or some shit like that. im not sure if he called shane taylor "N-WORD". but some say he did....he came back again in the back and he tells me, "just to kill me in the match, only if i dont kill you in 30 seconds, right now ." ok, now, im really getting pissed....i inform jc whats going on. i told him, jakes gonna go into business for himself if he doesnt get out there now. then before you know it, jakes walking down the isle towards the title match. jc scrambles and gets him to finally to the back. things are wayyyy outta control now. its just a matter of time. so now its match time...i go out first. whatever. then he comes out and does a promo. he starts talking about the radio interview he did and asks if anyone heard it. crowd popped a little bit. then he goes on about not being respected or some shit. he then starts asking questions to the motorcycles that were on stage, and yes, I DID say motorcycles. i grab a chair and sit, while i watch this all go down. he ends his promo and i jump him as he enters the ring. i hit him twice, he no sells. im like, f***er!!! i take him to the turnbuckle and choke him. he yells. turnbuckle!!! so i take him and throw him head first into the turnbuckle. he no sells, so i popped him real good with a forearm shot, and he said "whats that all about!" i did it again, hitting him with a stiff forearm to get him to sell and i yell at him, "sell for me you son-of-bitch!!!" i throw him into the buckle again he falls i roll him over for a 2 count, he kicks out, i cover again tighter, and he yells i cant go, what do think im stupid!?" then i tighten down and told the ref to count this piece of shit out. 1-2-3!!!! 2 and half minutes of complete utter bullshit. i was so pissed i could of stomped him into oblivion. so basically, i did what i thought was best for us, firestorm, not jake. hes selfish and a disgrace to himself and this buisness. pinning him, means nothing to me, im not a mark, wins and losses dont matter to me, i get paid the same no matter what. but my point is, jake is a LOSER. not just by being pinned-for real--but all the fans saw what a REAL f***N LOSER LOOKS LIKE. AND THATS JAKE ROBERTS!!!!! then after the match hes calling me back in, cause hes pissed, well, then he proceeds to whip out his "junk" right there in the middle of the ring. there were sooooo many kids ther. my wife and my 5 yr old daughter and my kids were there. i was gonna kill this f***. then i cut my promo. whatever. jrocc comes out, to try to calm the matters some and get jake to DDT him and he no-sells jrocc also...jerrys pissed now, wants to fight. cuts the promo on him and then i jetted. 16 yrs in the business and i wrestled countless stars that have been "under the influence", but have been able to perform. i couldnt even carry him. what a joke. dont blame jc. firestorm, me or whoever, the blame goes on jake. hes a big boy now, and he cant handle life and this is what he gets. i personally apologize to all the fans, friends and family who had paid to see me work a "wwe legend" only to be pissed and disgusted by his behavior. people like jake are a dime a dozen and he deserves what comes to him. so, to you, jake roberts, i say, f*** you, from the bottom of my heart!!!!
Thats Jt's Blog on the incident with jake
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Post by BlackHoleMark on Sept 15, 2008 13:58:16 GMT -5
To be honest, JT is a giant douche, so the account is my view is skewed. It's probably true, but Lightning really isn't the one to be talking about how undecent Jake is. It is a damn shame though.
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Post by dannyrctv on Sept 15, 2008 14:29:37 GMT -5
BTW was planning on booking him next year,It's not going to happen now after this crap!!I wonder if this will be inducted by Mr. Reynolds!
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