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Post by Deleted on Sept 16, 2008 8:01:16 GMT -5
.. Furthermore, he had to be woken up out of an apparent deep sleep to even COME OUT to wrestle. Found strewn around him were roughly a dozen or dozens of those little ariline vodka bottles. Naught but air was in them. Oh yeah, and there were 200 boy scouts in the crowd. BOY SCOUTS! At the risk of sounding glib, who the hell would wake up Jake the Snake to go do his main event under those circumstances, knowing the kinds of troubles Jake has had in his life? It's not like you could splash a coffee on his face and watch him knip up and spring down the hall to do his duty.
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Post by Joker on Sept 16, 2008 8:53:13 GMT -5
Either way this is one messed up story. I'll stick with 1980s-90s Jake Roberts wrestling.
The guy who went on a rant/shoot really needs to learn how to use paragraphs though.
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Post by Gobbledy Demon on Sept 16, 2008 9:09:49 GMT -5
If i didn't know everyone involved so well I would say this is a work, but I know that it is 100% shoot. Jake was a sad form of himself on Friday, to the point where it made me lose all respect, but more importantly all hope for Jake Roberts the man. JT, for being the ass that he is did not deserve getting the Jake Roberts he got. JC, who is a horrible wrestling promoter, did not deserve the Jake he got for his money. The fans did not deserve to be screwed out of the money they paid to see a clean Jake Roberts. Before rehab this was an every week thing, this is the Jake you expected, after rehab no one really saw this coming, hell he has been doing so good lately. I hope Jake can step away from the spotlight and get his life on track. Hell the first thing he needs to do is drop Shannon she allows Jake to live this likestyle, for being his closest friend, and wanting to see Jake gets whats best she sure don't help in stopping his addictions.
I'm not in anyway blaming her for Jakes actions, only blaming her for not giving him the help and support to stop. She knew Friday night Jake had fallen off the wagon, because when JC called her she said it is ok, Jake can still go like this!!! If you really cared about the guy wouldn't you say get him to a hospital, or get him on the soonest plane home, I'll cover the cost? No she told them it was ok Jake was wasted, it's ok to keep Jake, who had already fell off, in a BAR of all places. Maybe she shouldn't book Jake at bar shows? Maybe she should keep him at shows that don't serve alcohal, there are plenty out there.
What Jake needs most though is someone to travel with him, a sponsor of sorts. Someone he knows well, that is clean, and will not only inspire Jake but also watch out over him. Just like Shiek Jake should not travel alone.
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Post by Professor Chaos on Sept 16, 2008 12:15:46 GMT -5
They had 3 articles on TMZ.com about it yesterday. Was reading some of the comments from the clueless people and it's all pointed at Vince for being such an evil man. Vince can't win anybody associated with wrestling that does something wrong always gets pinned back on him by the mainstream.
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Post by gronkboy on Sept 16, 2008 12:36:00 GMT -5
If the fellow wrestler has pictures of Jake passed out, where are they?
"then all of a sudden he spits out HIS FALSE TEETH!!!! they fall on the floor and hes out again. i look at vince and vince goes"theres ur boy!".... funny vince. so i grab my camera and take a picture of this. no one would believe this....."
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Post by Hiroshi Hase on Sept 16, 2008 14:09:23 GMT -5
Not saying this is what happened, but....train wrecks DO get attention. Maybe someone wanted to guarantee headlines for themselves at Jake's expense? Well, according to Undertaker, when Jake came back to WWE in 1996 alot of guys were pressuring Jake real hard to drink again. Guys would nag him saying that he was a wimp, and guys would give him a soda but sneak whisky in there. Undertaker told them to leave him alone and they did. I thought it was Jake that said that on his DVD.
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Post by thesunbeast on Sept 16, 2008 16:43:41 GMT -5
Well, according to Undertaker, when Jake came back to WWE in 1996 alot of guys were pressuring Jake real hard to drink again. Guys would nag him saying that he was a wimp, and guys would give him a soda but sneak whisky in there. Undertaker told them to leave him alone and they did. I thought it was Jake that said that on his DVD. I've heard, or read, Undertaker saying it a while ago, or atleast a version of it, during one of his commentaries about Jake basically showing him much of what he knows today. Now that I remember, Jake tells the story on his dvd aswell in quicker fasion.
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Post by Hiroshi Hase on Sept 16, 2008 16:45:19 GMT -5
I thought it was Jake that said that on his DVD. I've heard, or read, Undertaker saying it a while ago, or atleast a version of it, during one of his commentaries about Jake basically showing him much of what he knows today. Now that I remember, Jake tells the story on his dvd aswell in quicker fasion. I see, I wasn't really disputing it, just that I remembered that story on the Jake DVD.
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Post by Above Average on Sept 16, 2008 17:17:34 GMT -5
i tell him and then he asks me if i can get him an 8-ball. then he tells me, hes had "25 shots". i dont know if he did or not, but numbers dont matter here. ..so i basically blow that idea off as he passes in and out. 25 shots eh? Sounds really like he was drugged...
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Post by Garee on Sept 16, 2008 18:14:53 GMT -5
He has got to get it together
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Post by BlackJackRobby on Sept 16, 2008 20:15:05 GMT -5
I have a feeling somthing happend like that, a small company an asswhole of a "16 year nobody vet"
He asked for a coke and got a double shot mixed with the smallest dash of coke.
They were probably begging for somthing to happen and preying on his weakness.
I personally feel bad for him either way, if it was just his dumb fault or not.
If he is in a condition that bad, why other then to show a train wreck would the promoter throw him on.
Classless act by a promoter, which is not unlikily from the dirty awful word promoter.
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Post by ritt works hard fo da chickens on Sept 16, 2008 23:24:29 GMT -5
I find anyone's claims to have been tricked into drinking alcohol suspect. I have always been able to tell when something was spiked, no matter how good the mixer claimed they were. Drugs maybe, but liqour tends to be very distinct. But aside from alterior motives like daterape or kidnapping you will find most claims of people having been drugged to be just people not wanting to not be held accountable for their own actions.
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Post by Blade Braxton on Sept 17, 2008 3:21:11 GMT -5
I guess we all can agree that Jake "The Snake" Roberts makes Blade Braxton look like CM Punk I'm insulted. I party like no other on this forum.
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Post by Lardlad on Sept 17, 2008 7:51:26 GMT -5
I find it hard to believe someone spiked his drink and it all went downhill from there. When this Shannon rep of his claims he was drugged, does he/she explain the nearly two dozen empty airplane bottles of vodka found by his gear (credit: tmz) and how they just appeared there?
If Jake was found with all those empty mini-bottles of booze near his gear, would he not have shown up to the show with them, some likely empty, some full? I think Jake had every intention of getting loaded that night, I don't think someone drugged him and then he opened his wrestling bag and just happened to have 24 bottles of booze on him.
Also, I think it's horrible that, as mentioned previously, people on the TMZ boards link all of this behavior back to Vince. f***....
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Post by Chris the Bambikiller on Sept 17, 2008 8:38:55 GMT -5
That crap hurt. The fiberglass hood doesn't make the accident look so bad (the hood just split in the middle as opposed to the way mashed metal looks, but it wrecked my solid steel bumper and the insides of the van). And those airbags are a bitch. It nailed me like a Mike Tyson punch, burned my face and left me with a neck ache I still have two years later. Blade, I love you on the show, you sound like a great guy, but sorry, I have to say that's what you deserve when you drive drunk. Could have been a man standing there instead of a telephone pole, after all. About Jake... well, he's really wrestling's Amy Winehouse. And that's not supposed to sound funny, it's really sad. Such a talented, I want to say gifted guy, throwing it all away, again and again. Who would book him now? I hope we'll never hear the news "Former wrestler robs liquor store", but I can't say it would really surprise me.
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Post by Lardlad on Sept 17, 2008 10:51:57 GMT -5
As bad as this whole thing is, I am sure there are a few promoters out there that are seeing this story and the publicity it's received who can't wait to book Jake Roberts at their next event....
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Post by Deleted on Sept 17, 2008 13:18:22 GMT -5
As bad as this whole thing is, I am sure there are a few promoters out there that are seeing this story and the publicity it's received who can't wait to book Jake Roberts at their next event.... .. as long as the promoter bills the show as "18+" (or 21+, depending on age of jurisdiction), why the heck not? If Jake wanted to humiliate himself in that fashion for drug money, he is an adult and it's not up to me to make his choices for him. But if there are going to be kids there, any promoter who knowingly hires Jake after this debacle should lose any ability to ever promote any kind of show. There's negligence, and then there's hiring Jake to put on a show in front of 200 boy scouts.
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Post by The OP on Sept 17, 2008 13:23:34 GMT -5
Eh, it's been done.
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Post by darthpipes on Sept 17, 2008 17:50:35 GMT -5
Jake should be required viewing to wrestlers so that they understand how badly their lives can go if they get hooked up in drugs. That's the greatest lesson that Jake can give.
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Post by corndog on Sept 18, 2008 2:39:47 GMT -5
I am not going to blame the promoter for booking him this time because Jake was supposedly cleaned up since his rehab stint. However I find it hard to believe that the promoter couldn't realize Jake was drinking especially if he gets on the mic that drunk, someone had to see how wasted he was. I am just amazed that he isn't dead yet, but at this rate he soon will be. Atleast he could do what alot of wrestlers do and wait until the end of the show to get loaded.
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