crnau87
Trap-Jaw
Attitude Eras Finest Tag Team Star.
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Post by crnau87 on Jan 4, 2009 0:46:53 GMT -5
GUys Mickie Jamesth is with the great khali i saw it on Raw last 2 weeks ago i think i saw them kiss passionately heaps and i think they are going to have a baby soon. The Great Mickie is her new alias in the ring now i think.
ps: she has great legs sure wish i was Great Khali!
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erik316wttn
Samurai Cop
Wrestlecrap's #1 SUNNY mark
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Post by erik316wttn on Jan 4, 2009 0:48:39 GMT -5
Is it really that big of a deal in Titan Towers?
Is Vince backstage thinking "Uh oh, there's an anti-Cena sign. If someone sees it, surely they'll start to boo him. If enough people see that ONE SIGN, I'll lose my top draw and go out of business. Oh, woe is me!!"
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mpt
Tommy Wiseau
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Post by mpt on Jan 4, 2009 3:19:44 GMT -5
People have a problem with Cena because he's one of the worst wrestlers in history. The guy draws more money than anyone in the business right now. Please do tell how "one of the worst wrestlers in history" can also be "one of the most successful wrestlers in history" The goal of a pro wrestler is to draw money. Cena does that better than anyone. I'd really love for you to expound on your opinion. The moves that he has are mostly basic ones and he's trying to be as electrifying as the Rock and as badass as Stone Cold Steve Austin...with no success. Plus, he's a poser. He's not as physically gifted as those two other wrestlers, Bret Hart, Shawn Michaels, Kurt Angle, Jeff Hardy, and the like. These other wrestlers have drawn lots of money over the years and still do.
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Hiroshi Hase
Patti Mayonnaise
The Good Ol' Days
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Post by Hiroshi Hase on Jan 4, 2009 8:53:58 GMT -5
The guy draws more money than anyone in the business right now. Please do tell how "one of the worst wrestlers in history" can also be "one of the most successful wrestlers in history" The goal of a pro wrestler is to draw money. Cena does that better than anyone. I'd really love for you to expound on your opinion. The moves that he has are mostly basic ones and he's trying to be as electrifying as the Rock and as badass as Stone Cold Steve Austin...with no success. Plus, he's a poser. He's not as physically gifted as those two other wrestlers, Bret Hart, Shawn Michaels, Kurt Angle, Jeff Hardy, and the like. These other wrestlers have drawn lots of money over the years and still do. Bret and Shawn weren't all that big of a draw and if it was about the moves only, then I imagine it would be a big deal. But the fans for the most part don't care about how many moves he does and that's why he makes a lot of money because his primary audience aren't smarks.
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Joekishi
Fry's dog Seymour
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Post by Joekishi on Jan 4, 2009 14:32:43 GMT -5
he is physically gifted he went an Hour with HBK and is built like a tank, he's put on better matches then jeff hardy is ever capable of and has made WWE more money than HBK, Angle, Bret, and the Hardyz
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mpt
Tommy Wiseau
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Post by mpt on Jan 4, 2009 18:44:20 GMT -5
he is physically gifted he went an Hour with HBK and is built like a tank, he's put on better matches then jeff hardy is ever capable of and has made WWE more money than HBK, Angle, Bret, and the Hardyz What about the TLC matches that Jeff Hardy was in? They were ten times better than any that Cena has had. Jeff Hardy has taken higher risks than Cena ever will. Just because he's ripped doesn't mean he's a great wrestler.
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Joekishi
Fry's dog Seymour
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Post by Joekishi on Jan 4, 2009 18:53:01 GMT -5
THey wrestle Different Styles
Cena personally has had better matches with the same variety of Wrestlers Hardy has had
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Celgress
Bill S. Preston, Esq.
The Superior One
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Post by Celgress on Jan 4, 2009 18:54:32 GMT -5
So for Raw replays of the episode where Trish Stratus returned, they didn't show the signs that said "Cuck Fena" and "We've Cena Nuff." Reminds me of Stalin erasing political rivals out of pictures in which they were with Lenin, as if they had never existed. ("We've Cena Nuff" is NOT EVEN A BIT PROFANE!) I should hope they (WWE) are protecting his image. Love him, or hate him, Cena is their top draw right now.
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Post by Robbymac on Jan 4, 2009 19:04:00 GMT -5
The guy draws more money than anyone in the business right now. Please do tell how "one of the worst wrestlers in history" can also be "one of the most successful wrestlers in history" The goal of a pro wrestler is to draw money. Cena does that better than anyone. I'd really love for you to expound on your opinion. The moves that he has are mostly basic ones and he's trying to be as electrifying as the Rock and as badass as Stone Cold Steve Austin...with no success. Plus, he's a poser. He's not as physically gifted as those two other wrestlers, Bret Hart, Shawn Michaels, Kurt Angle, Jeff Hardy, and the like. These other wrestlers have drawn lots of money over the years and still do. Whats your point? Hulk Hogan drew more money than anyone with a MUCH more limited moveset than Cena. He's a bigger draw than Bret Hart, Shawn Michaels, Kurt Angle, or Jeff Hardy. Again, the goal of a pro wrestler is to draw money. He's the top draw in wrestling right now. It doesn't matter if all he knows is a kick and a punch, if he gets people to care about those kicks and punches, he's doing his job.
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Post by Robbymac on Jan 4, 2009 19:07:38 GMT -5
What about the TLC matches that Jeff Hardy was in? They were ten times better than any that Cena has had. What about them? There were 5 other guys in those matches if I remember correctly. I can name several Cena matches I enjoyed as much or more than the TLC's. How bout the TLC Cena was in, with just one other guy? Thats because Jeff's style is high risk, and Cena's is brawler. Different wrestlers have different styles. This is correct. The fact that he is the number one draw and most over guy in wrestling is what makes him a great wrestler.
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mpt
Tommy Wiseau
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Post by mpt on Jan 4, 2009 19:15:31 GMT -5
The moves that he has are mostly basic ones and he's trying to be as electrifying as the Rock and as badass as Stone Cold Steve Austin...with no success. Plus, he's a poser. He's not as physically gifted as those two other wrestlers, Bret Hart, Shawn Michaels, Kurt Angle, Jeff Hardy, and the like. These other wrestlers have drawn lots of money over the years and still do. Whats your point? Hulk Hogan drew more money than anyone with a MUCH more limited moveset than Cena. He's a bigger draw than Bret Hart, Shawn Michaels, Kurt Angle, or Jeff Hardy. Again, the goal of a pro wrestler is to draw money. He's the top draw in wrestling right now. It doesn't matter if all he knows is a kick and a punch, if he gets people to care about those kicks and punches, he's doing his job. That's because the majority of his fans are ignorant of the whole legacy of wrestling. If they could just see the promos, storylines, and matches of wrestlers like Bret Hart, Ric Flair, Goldberg, Randy Savage, Triple H, Chris Benoit, The Rock, Edge, Christian, Jeff Hardy, Eddie Guerrero, etc, they would be amazed. It would have them wonder why more of this stuff is not out there nowadays.
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Post by Robbymac on Jan 4, 2009 19:28:40 GMT -5
Whats your point? Hulk Hogan drew more money than anyone with a MUCH more limited moveset than Cena. He's a bigger draw than Bret Hart, Shawn Michaels, Kurt Angle, or Jeff Hardy. Again, the goal of a pro wrestler is to draw money. He's the top draw in wrestling right now. It doesn't matter if all he knows is a kick and a punch, if he gets people to care about those kicks and punches, he's doing his job. That's because the majority of his fans are ignorant of the whole legacy of wrestling. If they could just see the promos, storylines, and matches of wrestlers like Bret Hart, Ric Flair, Goldberg, Randy Savage, Triple H, Chris Benoit, The Rock, Edge, Christian, Jeff Hardy, Eddie Guerrero, etc, they would be amazed. It would have them wonder why more of this stuff is not out there nowadays. Triple H, Edge, Christian, and Jeff Hardy are all active RIGHT NOW and yet Cena still outdraws all of them. You're not making any sense. I've seen everyone on that list, and enjoyed all of them. I also enjoyed Cena. That being said, you're over complicating this. The goal of being a wrestler is to make people care about you. More people care about Cena than anyone else in wrestling right now. Yet you're still holding on to the opinion that he is one of the worst ever. Even though he is doing what a pro wrestler is supposed to do better than anyone.
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Post by King Boo on Jan 4, 2009 19:31:17 GMT -5
The moves that he has are mostly basic ones and he's trying to be as electrifying as the Rock and as badass as Stone Cold Steve Austin...with no success. Plus, he's a poser. He's not as physically gifted as those two other wrestlers, Bret Hart, Shawn Michaels, Kurt Angle, Jeff Hardy, and the like. These other wrestlers have drawn lots of money over the years and still do. Doesn't this grow old? Ever? Comparing, say, Jeff Hardy to Cena is like comparing green grapes to red grapes. Technically, they're the same thing but they're different tastes. That's because the majority of his fans are ignorant of the whole legacy of wrestling. If they could just see the promos, storylines, and matches of wrestlers like Bret Hart, Ric Flair, Goldberg, Randy Savage, Triple H, Chris Benoit, The Rock, Edge, Christian, Jeff Hardy, Eddie Guerrero, etc, they would be amazed. It would have them wonder why more of this stuff is not out there nowadays. That's a really insulting assumption.
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Post by Crazy Diamond on Jan 4, 2009 20:09:27 GMT -5
Whats your point? Hulk Hogan drew more money than anyone with a MUCH more limited moveset than Cena. He's a bigger draw than Bret Hart, Shawn Michaels, Kurt Angle, or Jeff Hardy. Again, the goal of a pro wrestler is to draw money. He's the top draw in wrestling right now. It doesn't matter if all he knows is a kick and a punch, if he gets people to care about those kicks and punches, he's doing his job. That's because the majority of his fans are ignorant of the whole legacy of wrestling. If they could just see the promos, storylines, and matches of wrestlers like Bret Hart, Ric Flair, Goldberg, Randy Savage, Triple H, Chris Benoit, The Rock, Edge, Christian, Jeff Hardy, Eddie Guerrero, etc, they would be amazed. It would have them wonder why more of this stuff is not out there nowadays. I'm not a Cena fan, but some fans ten years ago said the same thing about Stone Cold and The Rock. They also said that about Bret Hart and Shawn Michaels if the archives I've skimmed through are any indication.
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Joekishi
Fry's dog Seymour
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Post by Joekishi on Jan 4, 2009 21:33:38 GMT -5
Whats your point? Hulk Hogan drew more money than anyone with a MUCH more limited moveset than Cena. He's a bigger draw than Bret Hart, Shawn Michaels, Kurt Angle, or Jeff Hardy. Again, the goal of a pro wrestler is to draw money. He's the top draw in wrestling right now. It doesn't matter if all he knows is a kick and a punch, if he gets people to care about those kicks and punches, he's doing his job. That's because the majority of his fans are ignorant of the whole legacy of wrestling. If they could just see the promos, storylines, and matches of wrestlers like Bret Hart, Ric Flair, Goldberg, Randy Savage, Triple H, Chris Benoit, The Rock, Edge, Christian, Jeff Hardy, Eddie Guerrero, etc, they would be amazed. It would have them wonder why more of this stuff is not out there nowadays. AH see i've been a fan since the days of Hogan, Savage, Sting. The Four Horsemen, LOD, up through the new generation, the monday night wars, Lucha Libre, and Puroresu. And right now John Cena is one of my favorite wrestlers. IF you watched STing you'd see how much Cena's career mirrors his.
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Eli
Team Rocket
Mutha licka!
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Post by Eli on Jan 4, 2009 21:43:09 GMT -5
They do. They won't even let him admit he's engaged. It's THAT ridiculous. They drop a lot of storylines with him...remember the whole 'Mickie you left your panties' deal? Mickie was actually going out with Cena. They broke up afterwards, and the guys' engaged. At least poor Bethie who has dealt with Jeff being an idiot for ten years (Seriously, watch the Hardy Show), and she's just now booked to appear on air. Half the female audience will kill themselves when that gets out.
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Post by Bob Schlapowitz on Jan 4, 2009 22:35:01 GMT -5
Whats your point? Hulk Hogan drew more money than anyone with a MUCH more limited moveset than Cena. He's a bigger draw than Bret Hart, Shawn Michaels, Kurt Angle, or Jeff Hardy. Again, the goal of a pro wrestler is to draw money. He's the top draw in wrestling right now. It doesn't matter if all he knows is a kick and a punch, if he gets people to care about those kicks and punches, he's doing his job. That's because the majority of his fans are ignorant of the whole legacy of wrestling. If they could just see the promos, storylines, and matches of wrestlers like Bret Hart, Ric Flair, Goldberg, Randy Savage, Triple H, Chris Benoit, The Rock, Edge, Christian, Jeff Hardy, Eddie Guerrero, etc, they would be amazed. It would have them wonder why more of this stuff is not out there nowadays. We get it. You don't like Cena. Do you have anything else to add?
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Post by ChitownKnight on Jan 4, 2009 22:41:28 GMT -5
Whats your point? Hulk Hogan drew more money than anyone with a MUCH more limited moveset than Cena. He's a bigger draw than Bret Hart, Shawn Michaels, Kurt Angle, or Jeff Hardy. Again, the goal of a pro wrestler is to draw money. He's the top draw in wrestling right now. It doesn't matter if all he knows is a kick and a punch, if he gets people to care about those kicks and punches, he's doing his job. That's because the majority of his fans are ignorant of the whole legacy of wrestling. If they could just see the promos, storylines, and matches of wrestlers like Bret Hart, Ric Flair, Goldberg, Randy Savage, Triple H, Chris Benoit, The Rock, Edge, Christian, Jeff Hardy, Eddie Guerrero, etc, they would be amazed. It would have them wonder why more of this stuff is not out there nowadays. funny how most of the wrestlers you named are either still in the wwe or were in the WWE not too long ago, yet Cena still outpopped most of them
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Post by Jedi-El of Tomorrow on Jan 4, 2009 22:48:15 GMT -5
Whats your point? Hulk Hogan drew more money than anyone with a MUCH more limited moveset than Cena. He's a bigger draw than Bret Hart, Shawn Michaels, Kurt Angle, or Jeff Hardy. Again, the goal of a pro wrestler is to draw money. He's the top draw in wrestling right now. It doesn't matter if all he knows is a kick and a punch, if he gets people to care about those kicks and punches, he's doing his job. That's because the majority of his fans are ignorant of the whole legacy of wrestling. If they could just see the promos, storylines, and matches of wrestlers like Bret Hart, Ric Flair, Goldberg, Randy Savage, Triple H, Chris Benoit, The Rock, Edge, Christian, Jeff Hardy, Eddie Guerrero, etc, they would be amazed. It would have them wonder why more of this stuff is not out there nowadays. Bret, Flair, Savage, Triple H, Edge, Christian, Jeff Hardy, Eddie, The Rock, and Goldberg? One of these things is not like the others, one of these things doesn't belong. Sorry dude, Goldberg is not in that league. And may I ask how Cena sucks, but Goldberg had amazing matches?
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Joekishi
Fry's dog Seymour
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Post by Joekishi on Jan 4, 2009 23:39:30 GMT -5
Goldberg made WCW tons of money, and Goldberg did have some really good matches in WCW it's just overshadowed by his many squashes of Jerry Flynn, Rick Fuller, and Road Block
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