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Post by The Varsity Club on May 13, 2005 15:22:55 GMT -5
It seems that its the same wrestlers over and over who are always flip flopping b/w being a heel and a face. Perfect example is Eddie Guerro. Wasn't he a heel last year at this time?? Now he is a heel again. I don't like the fact that he is turned so quickly as other wrestlers such as Y2J an Kane. What are your comments on this and why can't they give them a long run as a face or heel then turn them in order to create an element of suprise.
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Post by propaganda on May 13, 2005 15:24:02 GMT -5
It seems that its the same wrestlers over and over who are always flip flopping b/w being a heel and a face. Perfect example is Eddie Guerro. Wasn't he a heel last year at this time?? Now he is a heel again. I don't like the fact that he is turned so quickly as other wrestlers such as Y2J an Kane. What are your comments on this and why can't they give them a long run as a face or heel then turn them in order to create an element of suprise. A better example is Big Show and/or Trish. But..I don't care if they're a face or a heel. Eddie could've run as a face another year or two, etc.
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Post by Two-Time Champ Darth Violence on May 13, 2005 15:28:26 GMT -5
Most heel/face turns has to be Lex Luger...it seemed like every other week he was turning heel on Sting...
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Post by Lenny: Smooth like Keith Stone on May 13, 2005 15:28:53 GMT -5
I think they do it because they are trying to keep things fresh. The problem is that after they have the wrestler make the heel or face turn, the writers usually draw a blank and have no idea what to do from there. So they may have the wrestler turn back face or heel again. Repeat over and over.
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Post by pezwhatley on May 13, 2005 15:31:11 GMT -5
Most heel/face turns has to be Lex Luger...it seemed like every other week he was turning heel on Sting... You really have to feel sorry for Sting, I think he has had the most wrestlers swerve on him. Or maybe he's just not a good friend.
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Post by gwar on May 13, 2005 15:38:12 GMT -5
Hogan had a few freinds turn on him as well..
Off the top of my head add some if I missed
Mr.Wonderful Andre Beefcake Savage
I know there is alot more just cant think of any right now.
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Post by The Varsity Club on May 13, 2005 15:42:58 GMT -5
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Post by Xenorama on May 13, 2005 15:49:33 GMT -5
it's done too much. don't forget Big Dust had several "friends" turn on him as time went by. the problem is once a wrestler was "done" he used to be able to go to a new territory where he would be new or returning and thus fresh again. now they just turn back and forth and it's never a surprise at all any more. and Eddie, unless done really well, won't stay heel too long because he's too much fun to watch. although he may get a run at Cena, which would be fun, if he shuts Cena up from talking.
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Post by Will Has 'Til Five, Ref on May 13, 2005 15:52:13 GMT -5
Also Honkey Tonk Man. He was brought in as a friend of Hogan's though I don't think he turned on him, he just went heel.
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Post by Deleted on May 13, 2005 16:45:47 GMT -5
It seems that its the same wrestlers over and over who are always flip flopping b/w being a heel and a face. Perfect example is Eddie Guerro. Wasn't he a heel last year at this time?? This time last year he was facing off against JBL remember? It's been about a year and a half I think. Lying, cheating and stealing was just too funny to be a heel
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Post by BrianZane on May 13, 2005 17:01:41 GMT -5
Kevin Nash, I think, has had the most turns. In WWF he was heel, then face, then heel again (I think?). In WCW, he turned more times than I can count. In his return to WWE with the nWo, he was heel, then he got injured, then was a face, then was gone. In TNA, he came as a heel, and now is a face.
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Post by acsurf3 on May 13, 2005 17:31:52 GMT -5
FLAIR!!!!! ISN'T HE KNOWN FOR DOING THAT? REMEMBER THE STING INCIDENT? THINK IT WAS IN THE LATE 80S, HE WAS WITH THE 4 HORSEMEN, THEY TURNED ON HIM DURING THE MATCH. 2 MONTHS LATER HE'S TEAMING WITH LUGER WHO WAS A FACE AT THIS POINT. THEN LUGER JOING RACE AND HUGHES, AND TURNED HEEL.
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Post by BrianZane on May 13, 2005 18:18:53 GMT -5
Yeah you're right, Flair has gone from face to heel and back a bunch in his career as well.
And stop typing in all caps. Do you know how many rules of internet etiquette you're breaking by doing that? Um...one. Don't type in all caps.
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Post by KLRA on May 13, 2005 18:31:31 GMT -5
FLAIR!!!!! ISN'T HE KNOWN FOR DOING THAT? REMEMBER THE STING INCIDENT? THINK IT WAS IN THE LATE 80S, HE WAS WITH THE 4 HORSEMEN, THEY TURNED ON HIM DURING THE MATCH. 2 MONTHS LATER HE'S TEAMING WITH LUGER WHO WAS A FACE AT THIS POINT. THEN LUGER JOING RACE AND HUGHES, AND TURNED HEEL. Turn off the bleeding capslock key. Thank you. Personally, I think Kane flip flops so much, either that, or he's presented differently all the time.
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Post by EvilShadow76 on May 13, 2005 19:31:14 GMT -5
Kurt Angle is another one that goes from heel to face too much. In WCW Big Show went from heel to face so many times I lost count and so did Bret Hart during his time in WCW.
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Post by Joeydeadcat on May 13, 2005 20:26:24 GMT -5
What about Bret Hart in WCW(or as he always called it-The WCW)?
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Post by vitamink on May 13, 2005 20:31:38 GMT -5
Kane's gotta be the worst. I never have a clue as to if he's good or bad. He seemed pretty dastardly on RAW, yet he was beating up on Christian the week before...
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Post by WWE Trademarked My Name on May 13, 2005 20:38:14 GMT -5
Eddie doesn't have a problem with changing from Heel to Face but Big Show does, so does Kevin Nash.
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Post by Bhester on May 14, 2005 17:56:17 GMT -5
Nunzio is one you can never tell about. One week he's with Billy Kidman on Velocity, and the next week he's with Funaki.
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Post by nutbunnies on May 14, 2005 18:04:08 GMT -5
Eddie Guerro. Wasn't he a heel last year at this time?? Now he is a heel again. What the hell are you talking about? He was facing JBL at that abortion of a PPV, Judgement Day 2004. He hasn't been heel in years!
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