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Post by notonyourradar on Feb 8, 2009 13:18:03 GMT -5
I'm sorry. If you don't leave someone alone, you deserve it. And hitting a woman? The man is living the dream.... (awaits teh heetz)
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Post by wrestlesmarks on Feb 8, 2009 13:20:51 GMT -5
Women are equals if a woman hits a man then the man should be able to defend himself.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 8, 2009 13:21:08 GMT -5
I Left This Thread alone for a while but when I Saw it hit 20 pages I gave the first few pages a read my conclusion
Glad I stayed out
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Post by Chris the Bambikiller on Feb 8, 2009 13:23:15 GMT -5
And I can't believe Jericho would punch a woman, unless she attacked him with some kind of weapon, I mean, he really wouldn't... Damn.
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Post by sloride on Feb 8, 2009 13:23:16 GMT -5
Jason Powell from ProWrestling.net has commented on the situation in which he says that both Jericho and the idiot fans are to blame:
Chris Jericho had a physical altercation with multiple fans and security guards following Saturday's WWE house show in Victoria, B.C. Eyewitness Matt Patterson's recap of the events are listed below in italics, followed by my commentary below.
(Jericho) got in his vehicle and drove out of the arena parking lot, right past the crowd of us. As Jericho stopped at a stop sign, a fan ran into the street and started banging on his rental vehicle. At this point about 50 people rushed into the middle of the intersection, blocking traffic in several directions, with no police and very inadequate and incompetent security (no WWE security guards period).
Idiot fan. Security should have stepped in and restrained this moron, but based on the video footage it's hard to tell whether they had time to do so.
Chris Jericho opened the door to his vehicle in the middle of the road, and the fan shut the door back on him. Jericho then got out of the vehicle completely, and punched the fan in the face!
Idiot fan strikes again followed by a horrible decision by Jericho. He never should have left his vehicle. A wrestler should never get out of the car in that situation. Furthermore, Jericho should have kept his cool and not punched the fan unless it was strictly in self defense. He let his temper get the best of him. Sure, the fan acted like an idiot and there were others who were yelling profanities, but wrestlers deal with idiots and profanities on a daily basis.
This prompted another fan to jump in (he was friends with the first) and attack Jericho, who scuffled with the second guy. At this point, a woman who knew the second guy who attacked Jericho, started to jump in and get in Jericho's face (because he was fighting her friend).
More idiocy from the fans, although I can't stress enough that Jericho made a mistake by getting out of the car.
(Security) stepped in to separate Jericho and the woman who was shoving him. Looking at Jericho's face he was obviously ready to explode and was restraining himself...but then the excretory matter storm happened...
He spat in the girl's face, and called her a 'f---ing bitch.' The woman spat in Jericho's face. Jericho started cursing out the woman some more, and was getting ready to go back into his vehicle (as all of this is still happening in the middle of the road). While he was turning to go into his vehicle, one of the guys he was fighting shoved Jericho against his car.
Stupid behavior all around. According to Matt's version of the story, the woman shoved Jericho first, he spat in retaliation, and things only got worse from there. TMZ contacted Matt this morning to get his version of the story, yet the headline they used makes it seem as if Jericho punched the fan because he was spat on.
[After Jericho bickered and fought with security] the chick lunged at Jericho again, and this time Jericho actually punched the woman in the face, and shoved her to the ground. This stunned everyone, and the girl's friends ended up jumping in trying to fight Jericho... He fought all of them off, then stormed into his vehicle swearing and sped off, running through a stop sign in the process.
Jericho should have climbed back inside his vehicle and left long before this happened. He had a staredown with the female fan. Again, he let his temper get the best of him. There's no denying he was provoked. The female fan never should have shoved him, nor should he have responded by spitting on her. The video shows that he had a moment to collect his thoughts. The female fan shoved him and he glared at her, gave her a head fake, and then turned to get back inside his vehicle.
The female fan, who should have been restrained by security by this point, shoved Jericho again. He turned around and threw a punch that connected with the female fan. I realize it happened fast and that he had his back to the woman before he threw the punch, but he also had to know there was a good possibility it was the same woman shoving him when he turned around and threw the punch. The self defense excuse only goes so far. It's not like this was Gina Carano shoving him, and it looked to me like he was throwing the punch out of anger more than concern for his personal safety.
The first fan who caused the incident should be arrested. The security team won't be winning any awards for the way they handled the incident, although I must say that they showed restraint in not retaliating when Jericho was taking shots at them.
The woman who shoved Jericho repeatedly also shares in the blame. However, I don't subscribe to the "stupid bitch had it coming" comments that I've read today. You don't hit women. It's that simple. Only Jericho knows whether he was swinging at the woman intentionally. Either way, he made a big mistake that could come back to haunt him legally, and could lead to negative publicity for WWE.
Some people can't wait to tear down celebrities when they make mistakes. Others come rushing to their and act as if their heroes can do no wrong. I don't see how anyone who objectively views the footage and reads the eyewitness account can say Jericho did nothing wrong. I'm not saying he should be crucified for his actions, but he clearly could have handled the situation better.
Finally, I want to stress that while Matt has provided a very lengthy account of what took place, it is still only one person's perspective. The video clips on Youtube and on TMZ.com do not capture the entire incident, so it's possible that Matt or the cameras missed something during the melee that could change my take on the incident.
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Post by 4TheGlory on Feb 8, 2009 13:29:21 GMT -5
This just in: I hate wrestling fans
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Post by slaughterama on Feb 8, 2009 13:30:42 GMT -5
From a legal standpoint. I don't see anything coming from this against Jericho. At least not from a criminal standpoint. Appears to be sufficient enough evidence to prove that Jericho was provoked physically. The ace in the hole for him on that tape is his constant yelling for security to do their job.
As for civil suits. Hey... Jericho's got money. WWE has money. I'm sure whoever hired the security has money (the arena?). It's the American Way to sue in instances like this.
What? Canada? Ummm..... It's the Canadian Way to sue in instances like this.
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Post by a1TheEnigma1a on Feb 8, 2009 13:36:23 GMT -5
They had to make it real, so Jericho I guess made it real. Jericho will get a slap on the wrists for this. And the fans...well they got what they should already. Go Jericho Go!
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Post by Marvelously Mediocre on Feb 8, 2009 13:43:11 GMT -5
And I can't believe Jericho would punch a woman, unless she attacked him with some kind of weapon, I mean, he really wouldn't... Damn. Rebecca looks like a blonde wig on a body in that pic.
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Post by Murf on Feb 8, 2009 13:43:23 GMT -5
100% behind Chris Jericho in this. Props to WWE and the arena for slackass security.
GO JERICHO GO!
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Post by Fruity Delicious Skittles on Feb 8, 2009 13:45:14 GMT -5
Jason Powell from ProWrestling.net has commented on the situation in which he says that both Jericho and the idiot fans are to blame: No disrespect, but I really couldn't give two whoots about his opinion.
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Haha. What a story Mark.
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Post by Marvelously Mediocre on Feb 8, 2009 13:47:08 GMT -5
Jason Powell from ProWrestling.net has commented on the situation in which he says that both Jericho and the idiot fans are to blame: No disrespect, but I really couldn't give two whoots about his opinion. yeah whoever he is his opinion is about as valid as yours or mine.
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Post by Lenny: Smooth like Keith Stone on Feb 8, 2009 13:48:17 GMT -5
To all you guys saying that Chris Jericho is the Wrestlecrap lovechild mancrush or whatever, I do believe you are confusing him with Braden Walker. And I can assure you he was at the Old Country Buffet at the time of the assault, clearing himself of all potential liability.
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Post by Fruity Delicious Skittles on Feb 8, 2009 13:48:34 GMT -5
No disrespect, but I really couldn't give two whoots about his opinion. yeah whoever he is his opinion is about as valid as yours or mine. 'Zactly.
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Post by JD Turk on Feb 8, 2009 13:49:56 GMT -5
Screw it, I'm with jericho. Wrestling fans think they're untouchable, they push, and poke, and prod, forgetting that the wrestlers are actually people with feelings/tempers, etc. They take the fact that they know a wrestler can't touch them too far and try and go the extra mile to piss them off. If it was me, those people would've been snorked up worse than they were. Wrestling fans need to calm the snork down, seriously.
And people wonder why some wrestlers are assholes to them.
EDIT: I gues it'll be a LOOOOONG time before Victoria gets another show.
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Post by Mac on Feb 8, 2009 13:52:51 GMT -5
Jericho should be fired and sent to prison. If these giant behemoth trained fighters are allowed to attack people then we'll be dealing with mangled corpses and the blood will be on the hands of the WWE. Special precautions need to be taken to prevent this in the future. If it involves WWE wrestlers being put on a strict curfew with limitations being placed on where they can and cant be then I say fine. Didnt anyone see the movie Con Air? Nicholas Cage's character went to jail for years because he was a trained killer, regardless of whether or not he was defending himself or not. That movie was based on a true story. The WWE wrestlers aren't trained to kill but do posses a special skill set that makes them a threat to people who incure their wraths.
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Post by Miz-Wannabe on Feb 8, 2009 13:54:07 GMT -5
These videos are crap.
If I have the scenario right it's:
Jericho is trying to leave, fans come out to the street and keep him from leaving, he gets out of his car, security fail to move the fans away, and the fans REPEATEDLY put their hands on him. He took down the boyfriend but that was because the boyfriend was about to attack him. He gets angry at the security for not protecting him.
Therefore he was provoked and he reacted the way anyone would of reacted when they get provoked. How is he at fault?
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Post by dh03grad on Feb 8, 2009 13:57:34 GMT -5
Chris Jericho has to be fired if World Wrestling Entertainment(a public entity) is consistent with its message of their entertainers are representatives of the company even outside of the ring. This is not unlike the Ron Artest situation where he initiated the physical contact and incited the situation. Chris did not have to punch the first guy in the face. Everything after that, sure, Chris's safety was at risk. But, he put his own safety at risk. He has to be held responsible for his actions to protect the WWE, the fans and himself.
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Post by The Genesis of KoOS on Feb 8, 2009 13:57:35 GMT -5
These videos are crap.
If I have the scenario right it's:
Jericho is trying to leave, fans come out to the street and keep him from leaving, he gets out of his car, security fail to move the fans away, and the fans REPEATEDLY put their hands on him. He took down the boyfriend but that was because the boyfriend was about to attack him.
Therefore he was provoked and he reacted the way anyone would of reacted when they get provoked. How is he at fault? Nobody laid their hands on Jericho until after Jericho punched the first guy. That brought the second guy, a friend, to punch Jericho. That's when it all broke down.
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Post by Massive G on Feb 8, 2009 13:58:50 GMT -5
Jericho is an ass! He's boring as hell on TV and he's a an asshole in public. No big loss if her "retires" again. Really, he sucks. Nothing remotely interesting about him. Nothing. Wow, awesome new insight! Thank you! Jericho should be fired and sent to prison. If these giant behemoth trained fighters are allowed to attack people then we'll be dealing with mangled corpses and the blood will be on the hands of the WWE. Special precautions need to be taken to prevent this in the future. If it involves WWE wrestlers being put on a strict curfew with limitations being placed on where they can and cant be then I say fine. Didnt anyone see the movie Con Air? Nicholas Cage's character went to jail for years because he was a trained killer, regardless of whether or not he was defending himself or not. That movie was based on a true story. The WWE wrestlers aren't trained to kill but do posses a special skill set that makes them a threat to people who incure their wraths. I am going to assume you're joking, only because you mentioned the "true story" of Con Air. I laughed, either way.
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