Chris Jericho Fan Assault (w/VIDEO)

[Miz-Wannabe]

Feb 8, 2009 17:24:37 GMT -5 Tiger Millionaire said:

But that's not the argument people are making, which I think needs to be said. If Jericho was accused of punching his wife in the face because she pushed him and spit on him, I still think most people would consider him to be at fault. The ones who said that it doesn't matter who pushes you, once they do, it's go time, must not have sisters, mothers, or daughters. Now, I think the argument can be made that because he did not know this women, that once he felt her grabbing him, he might not have known what she was going to do next. Even that might be giving him to much credit, because he could've pushed her away, rather then just throwing a punch. But the sentiment that I read on many of these post is that is ok for a man to hit a woman if provoked in the way he was provoked, and that is just wrong.

Look at the video. Jericho doesn't pause before throwing the punch, because he just REACTED.

It doesn't matter what her gender was, you don't put your hands on someone in that manner like the girl did and expect anything pleasant.

I don't really like the fact that he hit a girl, but Jericho did not just punch her as soon as she came up to him.

[charlie ford]

oh how i love my home town

[Snowman]

Feb 8, 2009 17:24:37 GMT -5 Tiger Millionaire said:

Feb 8, 2009 17:18:52 GMT -5 Hiroshi Hase said:

Seeing as I know her very well and as she's my gf, probably not though I would probably restrain her physically as I'm not too keen on being anyone's punching bag.

As for Jericho, it's not his gf, just some crazed overzealous fan who overstepped her boundaries.

But that's not the argument people are making, which I think needs to be said. If Jericho was accused of punching his wife in the face because she pushed and grabbed him and spit on him, I still think most people would consider him to be at fault. The ones who said that it doesn't matter who pushes you, once they do, it's go time, must not have sisters, mothers, or daughters. Now, I think the argument can be made that because he did not know this women, that once he felt her grabbing him, he might not have known what she was going to do next. Even that might be giving him to much credit, because he could've pushed her away, rather then just throwing a punch. But the sentiment that I read on many of these post is that is ok for a man to hit a woman if provoked in the way he was provoked, and that is just wrong.

No it's not wrong at all. To put it very simply if a woman wants to acts like a man, then she should expect the same retaliation as a man would get.

You can't act like a twat and attack someone and then hide behind your gender when you get hit back.

[Miz-Wannabe]

Feb 8, 2009 17:35:22 GMT -5 Snowman said:

No it's not wrong at all. To put it very simply if a woman wants to acts like a man, then she should expect the same retaliation as a man would get.

You can't act like a twat and attack someone and then hide behind your gender when you get hit back.

"Excuse me while I harass you but you can't hurt me because I'm female"

Screw that... How old was the girl? TWENTY?! That's old enough to get punched in the face.

[Tiger Millionaire]

Feb 8, 2009 17:35:22 GMT -5 Snowman said:

Feb 8, 2009 17:24:37 GMT -5 Tiger Millionaire said:

But that's not the argument people are making, which I think needs to be said. If Jericho was accused of punching his wife in the face because she pushed and grabbed him and spit on him, I still think most people would consider him to be at fault. The ones who said that it doesn't matter who pushes you, once they do, it's go time, must not have sisters, mothers, or daughters. Now, I think the argument can be made that because he did not know this women, that once he felt her grabbing him, he might not have known what she was going to do next. Even that might be giving him to much credit, because he could've pushed her away, rather then just throwing a punch. But the sentiment that I read on many of these post is that is ok for a man to hit a woman if provoked in the way he was provoked, and that is just wrong.

No it's not wrong at all. To put it very simply if a woman wants to acts like a man, then she should expect the same retaliation as a man would get.

You can't act like a twat and attack someone and then hide behind your gender when you get hit back.

And that is the excuse men have been using for years to beat up women. Like my original post said, and people largly agreed with me, is that Jericho isn't scorned because he did not know this woman, what she could be capable of, and as a celebrity, you always must be prepared. I will agree with that. I can't and will not agree with the argument you are presenting here. It's not ok to strike a woman, even if she is the aggressor, unless you feel you are in extreme danger, not just because she is acting like a bitch. I have a sister, and if when we were younger, I punched her in the face everytime she tried to push me, kick me, scratch me, ect, she'd probably be dead, and I'd be in jail.

[glorydays]

To some people, women can do whatever they want to a guy. Spit, punch, kick, knee in the groin. No problem. However, when the tables are turned (i.e. a guy hitting a girl), it's a sin.

To quote Screech Powers: "Zack, girls can be brutal....have to ever seen Gorgeous Ladies of Wrestling"?

If guys are going to bend over every time a women tries to embarrass or harm you in any way, then you'll be in for a rough time in life. It's happened to me, it's happened to friends of mine. If girls want to act like they are immune to being hit, then let them deal with the consequences. Just like Jericho will have to deal with the consequences of hitting her.

Personally, I couldn't care less who was at fault. I don't even like Jericho. I just like the fact that he hit a girl who (by the looks of it) had it coming. If I am going to hell for saying that, so be it.

[Hiroshi Hase]

Feb 8, 2009 17:41:35 GMT -5 Tiger Millionaire said:

Feb 8, 2009 17:35:22 GMT -5 Snowman said:

No it's not wrong at all. To put it very simply if a woman wants to acts like a man, then she should expect the same retaliation as a man would get.

You can't act like a twat and attack someone and then hide behind your gender when you get hit back.

And that is the excuse men have been using for years to beat up women. Like my original post said, and people largly agreed with me, is that Jericho isn't scorned because he did not know this woman, what she could be capable of, and as a celebrity, you always must be prepared. I will agree with that. I can't and will not agree with the argument you are presenting here. It's not ok to strike a woman, even if she is the aggressor, unless you feel you are in extreme danger, not just because she is acting like a bitch. I have a sister, and if when we were younger, I punched her in the face everytime she tried to push me, kick me, scratch me, ect, she'd probably be dead, and I'd be in jail.

I have a sister also and we playfight all the time, and when she'd push me (partly because she's bigger than I) I'd push back. If men/women are supposedly equal, why the fuss when a guy retalitates?

[Aaron E. Dangerously]

Man, good for him. You don't harass someone and expect to get away with it just because they're famous.

Mess with the bull and you get the horns.

"Do your f***ing job and get this f***ing bitch out of here!" LOL

[Tiger Millionaire]

Feb 8, 2009 17:43:30 GMT -5 @glorydays said:

To some people, women can do whatever they want to a guy. Spit, punch, kick, knee in the groin. No problem. However, when the tables are turned (i.e. a guy hitting a girl), it's a sin.

To quote Screech Powers: "Zack, girls can be brutal....have to ever seen Gorgeous Ladies of Wrestling"?

If guys are going to bend over every time a women tries to embarrass or harm you in any way, then you'll be in for a rough time in life. It's happened to me, it's happened to friends of mine. If girls want to act like they are immune to being hit, then let them deal with the consequences. Just like Jericho will have to deal with the consequences of hitting her.

Personally, I couldn't care less who was at fault. I don't even like Jericho. I just like the fact that he hit a girl who (by the looks of it) had it coming. If I am going to hell for saying that, so be it.

So who determines who "has it coming"?

(Again I preface this by saying I believe Jericho does not go around hitting women, he was just in a extreme, and potentially dangerous situation.

[Gregor-2012]

If anyone wants to steal my sig feel free. Show Jericho our support.

[Miz-Wannabe]

Feb 8, 2009 17:46:15 GMT -5 Hiroshi Hase said:

Feb 8, 2009 17:41:35 GMT -5 Tiger Millionaire said:

And that is the excuse men have been using for years to beat up women. Like my original post said, and people largly agreed with me, is that Jericho isn't scorned because he did not know this woman, what she could be capable of, and as a celebrity, you always must be prepared. I will agree with that. I can't and will not agree with the argument you are presenting here. It's not ok to strike a woman, even if she is the aggressor, unless you feel you are in extreme danger, not just because she is acting like a bitch. I have a sister, and if when we were younger, I punched her in the face everytime she tried to push me, kick me, scratch me, ect, she'd probably be dead, and I'd be in jail.

I have a sister also and we playfight all the time, and when she'd push me (partly because she's bigger than I) I'd push back. If men/women are supposedly equal, why the fuss when a guy retalitates?

Because women tend to be physically weaker than men. But it shouldn't allow women to do whatever the hell they want.

[Bobafett]

Feb 8, 2009 1:39:44 GMT -5 metylerca said:

I'll bet if it was Batista, this board would be calling for him to be fired/sent to prison.

ahh this old stupid arguement.. no it wouldn't.

the timg is in the second vid..you hve some people wanting photos with him..then you get the douche..or several getting in his face and screamig stuff like motherf***** and youre a disgrace to Canada sounds like they guy was just beggin' Jericho to do something and itlooks lilke hes trying to be as polite as possible but then he gets attacked/pushed/whatever and the red mist decends..yes hes a pro..but he is humn and he reacted..as for hitting the woman..uncalled for ..but what the hell was security doing??? they are to real blame

[Snowman]

And that is the excuse men have been using for years to beat up women.

And it's not the first time Logic has been twisted to try and excuse someone's evil actions.

It seems to me that you can't differentiate from Domestic abuse and self defense.

[Hiroshi Hase]

Feb 8, 2009 17:48:33 GMT -5 Miz-Wannabe said:

Feb 8, 2009 17:46:15 GMT -5 Hiroshi Hase said:

I have a sister also and we playfight all the time, and when she'd push me (partly because she's bigger than I) I'd push back. If men/women are supposedly equal, why the fuss when a guy retalitates?

Because women tend to be physically weaker than men. But it shouldn't allow women to do whatever the hell they want.

Then what about the physically weak guys out there, shouldn't they be under some protective umbrella like that? But I'd wager it's because they're guys, so a big strong guy can beat up on a puny guy, because they're of the same gender.

I agree that women shouldn't be able to do whatever they want as if someone wants to throw a punch,they should be ready to take one.

[Tiger Millionaire]

Feb 8, 2009 17:49:39 GMT -5 Snowman said:

And that is the excuse men have been using for years to beat up women.

And it's not the first time Logic has been twisted to try and excuse someone's evil actions.

It seems to me that you can't differentiate from Domestic abuse and self defense.

No, I can. Please read everything I have posted here. My concern is that alot of comments have not been able to differentiate between self defense, and it doesn't matter if it's a guy or a girl, if they have it coming, so be it.

[lemonyellowson]

holy crap

[Fruity Delicious Skittles]

Interesting eye witness comment from a guy in the comments section of that news article.

I am appalled that the Times Colonist would print a story with so many falsehoods. I was right there and saw the whole incident unfold.

First, let me set the record straight about a coupld of things in the article. Jericho never spit on Levey or actually hit her as reported above. The whole altercation started when Jericho was trying to leave the arena in his SUV. Johl jumped in front of him and then proceeded to chase him down the rode banging hard on the window while shouting obscenities and giving him the finger. Jericho was forced to stop as other fans had stepped in front of his vehicle.

As he tried to exit his SUV, Johl kicked the door back on him. Jericho got out of the SUV and had a few choice words and a little shoving match with Johl. NO PUNCHES WERE THROWN! At this point the security guards came rushing over. Jericho was telling them to do their job and get Johl out of his face. At this point Levey made her way around the security guard and tried to hit Jericho (you can see this on the Youtube videos). At no time does Jericho spit at her.

Once again he tells the security to get Levey and Johl out of there. The security does nothing to hold Levey back and she is once again allowed to come at Jericho. This time she spits on him and pushes him back against the door/seat of the SUV. Jericho reactes by pushing, NOT PUNCHING, her back. This is clearly shown in the Youtube videos. At this point Johl rushes at Jericho and tries to throw a punch. The security FINALLY does their job and takes him down (with Jericho right there with them). Once again this is clear in the vids. Jericho is justifiably pissed off and rushes back to his SUV pushing people out of the way as he went.

The whole time he was yelling at the security guards to do their jobs and to get the cops. He sped away and the police arrived shortly after. Had the security actually done what they were hired for this whold incident could have been prevented. I urge anyone else that witnessed this altercation to comment and set the record straight.

Though he seems to be saying Jericho didn't punch the girl at all, which seems odd...

[Deleted]

Why all this backlash? We knew Jericho had a tendency to hit women...hell look at what he did to HBK's wife...

[glorydays]

Feb 8, 2009 17:47:08 GMT -5 Tiger Millionaire said:

So who determines who "has it coming"?

(Again I preface this by saying I believe Jericho does not go around hitting women, he was just in a extreme, and potentially dangerous situation.

Look at track record. If Jericho has a history of doing this, then we can say he has a problem. In this case, it appears to be an isolated incident where he was provoked by fans. If Jericho was spit on, pushed, egged on, etc, then he may have felt threatened enough to retaliate. It's not like he picked a girl in the crowd randomly and stated swinging at her. I am not going to sit here and say I would or would not have done the same thing, it depends on how I would feel in that situation, but to suggest Jericho was out of line just because he hit a girl who clearly was not an innocent bystander if reports are accurate, is way to extreme for me. Where do you draw the line? A girl has to pull a knife on you before you retaliate?

[Snowman]

Feb 8, 2009 17:52:01 GMT -5 Tiger Millionaire said:

Feb 8, 2009 17:49:39 GMT -5 Snowman said:

And it's not the first time Logic has been twisted to try and excuse someone's evil actions.

It seems to me that you can't differentiate from Domestic abuse and self defense.

No, I can. Please read everything I have posted here. My concern is that alot of comments have not been able to differentiate between self defense, and it doesn't matter if it's a guy or a girl, if they have it coming, so be it.

I have read everything you have wrote and have come to the conclusion that you are now just trolling for the hell of it. Well done.

Anyway back on topic, do you think this will be brought up on TV ever like when they brought up Ric Flair's road rage incident?