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Post by Ken Ivory on Jun 4, 2009 3:43:02 GMT -5
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Post by Welfare Willis on Jun 4, 2009 8:04:31 GMT -5
You know the well has run dry when they announce a reboot of a 13-YEAR-OLD horror film. Something like Friday the 13th I get, because a modern audience probably wouldn't be willing to sit through a low budget film from the early 80s. But Scream? I don't get it. The original is still relatively "young", so I just don't see where it needs a modern update, because, for all intents and puposes, it's still a "modern" horror film. Today's teens don't know who Neve Campbell is...? Yeah, I got nothin'. Considering the point of Scream was to do a self-aware story about horror movies, and now a good portion of horror movies are self-aware in their own right...whatever. This is why this news hurts my brain. I'm not surprised Kevin Williamson signed on as I'm sure he needs the money, but Wes? Come on dude. |
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Post by Sir Woodrow on Jun 4, 2009 8:24:21 GMT -5
Today's teens don't know who Neve Campbell is...? Yeah, I got nothin'. Considering the point of Scream was to do a self-aware story about horror movies, and now a good portion of horror movies are self-aware in their own right...whatever. This is why this news hurts my brain. I'm not surprised Kevin Williamson signed on as I'm sure he needs the money, but Wes? Come on dude. Better the original team doing it than some Video clip hack. |
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Post by Lick Ness Monster on Jun 4, 2009 11:40:28 GMT -5
Yeah, I got nothin'. Considering the point of Scream was to do a self-aware story about horror movies, and now a good portion of horror movies are self-aware in their own right...whatever. I'll just go ahead and quote that and say "this is my official stance as well."  |
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Post by Welfare Willis on Jun 4, 2009 11:52:43 GMT -5
Yeah, I got nothin'. Considering the point of Scream was to do a self-aware story about horror movies, and now a good portion of horror movies are self-aware in their own right...whatever. I'll just go ahead and quote that and say "this is my official stance as well." If they really wanted to remake scream do the awesome thing and put monkies in wigs and outfits and have them do the acting. |
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Post by Rorschach on Jun 4, 2009 13:37:25 GMT -5
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Post by Big DSR Energy on Jun 4, 2009 18:17:03 GMT -5
Here is my response from the other place where you posted this, in case some people haven't been there: ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ For starters, he's not saying anything I haven't already heard from the collective crybaby hive-mind of the internet five thousand times <I'm trying to be tongue-in-cheek here, by the way>. Also, "Dying" seems a bit melodramatic when you consider: Number 7 - "Quantity over quality" is not a recent adage. When VHS came to prominence in the 80s, so too did the direct-to-video market, filled with lousy horror films. And before that was the low-budget drive-in, grindhouse, and B movie markets. Have their been creative minds at work in those venues? Yes. Were they ALL creative? No. Same could be said for the current direct-to-dvd crowd. Number 5 - So basically, he's saying lousy effects create lousy movies. We, the horror film viewing public, have suffered through lousy effects for decades. If a film's written fairly well, the limitations of effects are usually overcome. Number 4 - "The PG-13 rating plays to the teeny bopper crowd, who will scream in terror at every single cheap scare inserted throughout." See also: most horror movies made ever. Adults have typically frowned on the films since their inception, and again the drive-in market and the matinee were often hotbeds for teenage activity. "It also robs potentially good films of any kind of legitimacy with unrealistic dialogue, little suspense, and moderate violence." If you can't build suspense as a filmmaker, having naked, blood-drenched lesbians say the f-word fifty times in a half-hour isn't going to help you. Number 1 - Yes, there are more remakes being made now than there were in the 40s. There's more movies total being made now than in those days, too. And, need I remind you, that many classics of the genre are remakes? 1931's Frankenstein and Dracula films: remakes. Hammer studio's Frankenstein and Dracula pictures: remakes. John Carpenter's The Thing: remake. Cronenberg's The Fly: remake. If you'll pardon the pun, the horror genre has always had a history of cannibalizing previous ideas and telling those old stories in new ways. Horror didn't die when any of the things this guy (or his brethren on many message boards I've read) mentions were cropping up at various points in the history of cinema. I don't think there's any reason to assume that NOW, all of a sudden, the genre is just going to quietly march to its grave and rest in peace. |
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Post by Rorschach on Jun 4, 2009 19:10:37 GMT -5
" If you can't build suspense as a filmmaker, having naked, blood-drenched lesbians say the f-word fifty times in a half-hour isn't going to help you."
Well now, DSR, that depends entirely on what sort of naked, foul mouthed, blood drenched lesbians we're talking about. ;D
Seriously, I agree with you. AMERICAN PIE has proven that copius nudity is no crutch to fall back on when your writing sucks.
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Post by andrew8798 on Jun 4, 2009 19:19:23 GMT -5
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Post by Lick Ness Monster on Jun 5, 2009 11:29:38 GMT -5
Here is my response from the other place where you posted this, in case some people haven't been there: ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ For starters, he's not saying anything I haven't already heard from the collective crybaby hive-mind of the internet five thousand times <I'm trying to be tongue-in-cheek here, by the way>. Also, "Dying" seems a bit melodramatic when you consider: Number 7 - "Quantity over quality" is not a recent adage. When VHS came to prominence in the 80s, so too did the direct-to-video market, filled with lousy horror films. And before that was the low-budget drive-in, grindhouse, and B movie markets. Have their been creative minds at work in those venues? Yes. Were they ALL creative? No. Same could be said for the current direct-to-dvd crowd. Number 5 - So basically, he's saying lousy effects create lousy movies. We, the horror film viewing public, have suffered through lousy effects for decades. If a film's written fairly well, the limitations of effects are usually overcome. Number 4 - "The PG-13 rating plays to the teeny bopper crowd, who will scream in terror at every single cheap scare inserted throughout." See also: most horror movies made ever. Adults have typically frowned on the films since their inception, and again the drive-in market and the matinee were often hotbeds for teenage activity. "It also robs potentially good films of any kind of legitimacy with unrealistic dialogue, little suspense, and moderate violence." If you can't build suspense as a filmmaker, having naked, blood-drenched lesbians say the f-word fifty times in a half-hour isn't going to help you. Number 1 - Yes, there are more remakes being made now than there were in the 40s. There's more movies total being made now than in those days, too. And, need I remind you, that many classics of the genre are remakes? 1931's Frankenstein and Dracula films: remakes. Hammer studio's Frankenstein and Dracula pictures: remakes. John Carpenter's The Thing: remake. Cronenberg's The Fly: remake. If you'll pardon the pun, the horror genre has always had a history of cannibalizing previous ideas and telling those old stories in new ways. Horror didn't die when any of the things this guy (or his brethren on many message boards I've read) mentions were cropping up at various points in the history of cinema. I don't think there's any reason to assume that NOW, all of a sudden, the genre is just going to quietly march to its grave and rest in peace. ' Wow. Just, applause. Post of the year material there, DSR. In regards to the naked, blood-drenched lesbians saying the F-bomb fifty times, see "Zombie, Rob." ;D |
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Post by andrew8798 on Jun 6, 2009 17:43:24 GMT -5
was just on Amazon.com and I see That the Puppet master box set is getting another release It comes out this Tuesday. The company that is putting it out is Video Music, Inc.
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Post by GuyOfOwnage on Jun 6, 2009 21:19:24 GMT -5
was just on Amazon.com and I see That the Puppet master box set is getting another release It comes out this Tuesday. The company that is putting it out is Video Music, Inc. Yeah, I mentioned this several pages back. I've had it pre-ordered for months now. |
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Post by Rorschach on Jun 6, 2009 22:51:33 GMT -5
Here is my response from the other place where you posted this, in case some people haven't been there: ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ For starters, he's not saying anything I haven't already heard from the collective crybaby hive-mind of the internet five thousand times <I'm trying to be tongue-in-cheek here, by the way>. Also, "Dying" seems a bit melodramatic when you consider: Number 7 - "Quantity over quality" is not a recent adage. When VHS came to prominence in the 80s, so too did the direct-to-video market, filled with lousy horror films. And before that was the low-budget drive-in, grindhouse, and B movie markets. Have their been creative minds at work in those venues? Yes. Were they ALL creative? No. Same could be said for the current direct-to-dvd crowd. Number 5 - So basically, he's saying lousy effects create lousy movies. We, the horror film viewing public, have suffered through lousy effects for decades. If a film's written fairly well, the limitations of effects are usually overcome. Number 4 - "The PG-13 rating plays to the teeny bopper crowd, who will scream in terror at every single cheap scare inserted throughout." See also: most horror movies made ever. Adults have typically frowned on the films since their inception, and again the drive-in market and the matinee were often hotbeds for teenage activity. "It also robs potentially good films of any kind of legitimacy with unrealistic dialogue, little suspense, and moderate violence." If you can't build suspense as a filmmaker, having naked, blood-drenched lesbians say the f-word fifty times in a half-hour isn't going to help you. Number 1 - Yes, there are more remakes being made now than there were in the 40s. There's more movies total being made now than in those days, too. And, need I remind you, that many classics of the genre are remakes? 1931's Frankenstein and Dracula films: remakes. Hammer studio's Frankenstein and Dracula pictures: remakes. John Carpenter's The Thing: remake. Cronenberg's The Fly: remake. If you'll pardon the pun, the horror genre has always had a history of cannibalizing previous ideas and telling those old stories in new ways. Horror didn't die when any of the things this guy (or his brethren on many message boards I've read) mentions were cropping up at various points in the history of cinema. I don't think there's any reason to assume that NOW, all of a sudden, the genre is just going to quietly march to its grave and rest in peace. ' Wow. Just, applause. Post of the year material there, DSR. In regards to the naked, blood-drenched lesbians saying the F-bomb fifty times, see "Zombie, Rob." ;D Or Roth, Eli, and HOSTEL II. |
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Post by andrew8798 on Jun 7, 2009 23:15:24 GMT -5
Some saw news
Tobin Bell confirms that they're in talks for Saw 7 and they're currently planning for Saw 8 to be "the final chapter". Though
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Post by GuyOfOwnage on Jun 7, 2009 23:30:27 GMT -5
Some saw news Tobin Bell confirms that they're in talks for Saw 7 and they're currently planning for Saw 8 to be "the final chapter". Though I should've known better than to believe 6 would be it. *sigh*  |
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Post by Ken Ivory on Jun 8, 2009 3:36:45 GMT -5
Some saw news Tobin Bell confirms that they're in talks for Saw 7 and they're currently planning for Saw 8 to be "the final chapter". Though NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!! |
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Post by Sir Woodrow on Jun 8, 2009 4:03:57 GMT -5
Some saw news Tobin Bell confirms that they're in talks for Saw 7 and they're currently planning for Saw 8 to be "the final chapter". Though I like the Saw movies but just stop. |
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Post by Rorschach on Jun 8, 2009 4:11:59 GMT -5
Some saw news Tobin Bell confirms that they're in talks for Saw 7 and they're currently planning for Saw 8 to be "the final chapter". Though I like the Saw movies but just stop. NEVER! THESEmovies turn a profit...unlike the original and highly entertaining DRAG ME TO HELL. BAH! Enough with the original pictures that obviously have no audience! More SAW sequels for EVERYONE! *Weeps* *Drinks tequila until he blacks out* |
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Post by erisi236 on Jun 8, 2009 7:24:21 GMT -5
Here is my response from the other place where you posted this, in case some people haven't been there: ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ For starters, he's not saying anything I haven't already heard from the collective crybaby hive-mind of the internet five thousand times <I'm trying to be tongue-in-cheek here, by the way>. Also, "Dying" seems a bit melodramatic when you consider: Number 7 - "Quantity over quality" is not a recent adage. When VHS came to prominence in the 80s, so too did the direct-to-video market, filled with lousy horror films. And before that was the low-budget drive-in, grindhouse, and B movie markets. Have their been creative minds at work in those venues? Yes. Were they ALL creative? No. Same could be said for the current direct-to-dvd crowd. Number 5 - So basically, he's saying lousy effects create lousy movies. We, the horror film viewing public, have suffered through lousy effects for decades. If a film's written fairly well, the limitations of effects are usually overcome. Number 4 - "The PG-13 rating plays to the teeny bopper crowd, who will scream in terror at every single cheap scare inserted throughout." See also: most horror movies made ever. Adults have typically frowned on the films since their inception, and again the drive-in market and the matinee were often hotbeds for teenage activity. "It also robs potentially good films of any kind of legitimacy with unrealistic dialogue, little suspense, and moderate violence." If you can't build suspense as a filmmaker, having naked, blood-drenched lesbians say the f-word fifty times in a half-hour isn't going to help you. Number 1 - Yes, there are more remakes being made now than there were in the 40s. There's more movies total being made now than in those days, too. And, need I remind you, that many classics of the genre are remakes? 1931's Frankenstein and Dracula films: remakes. Hammer studio's Frankenstein and Dracula pictures: remakes. John Carpenter's The Thing: remake. Cronenberg's The Fly: remake. If you'll pardon the pun, the horror genre has always had a history of cannibalizing previous ideas and telling those old stories in new ways. Horror didn't die when any of the things this guy (or his brethren on many message boards I've read) mentions were cropping up at various points in the history of cinema. I don't think there's any reason to assume that NOW, all of a sudden, the genre is just going to quietly march to its grave and rest in peace. I'd just like to add. Number 3 ~ Torture/Rape was vastly more "popular" in the '70's. In fact the few that are made today are homages and or actual remakes of them. |
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Post by Big DSR Energy on Jun 8, 2009 12:58:39 GMT -5
Some saw news Tobin Bell confirms that they're in talks for Saw 7 and they're currently planning for Saw 8 to be "the final chapter". Though HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAA!!! Yes, turn this beloved franchise into a trainwreck the likes of "House of Dracula" or "Jason Takes Manhattan." Send Tobin Bell to the North Pole! Have him meet Harold and Kumar! Bring "The Suck" to astronomical levels! BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAA!!! |
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