LOD Road Warriors or Demolition?

[mrjl]

Dec 20, 2008 1:04:42 GMT -5 dizzy said:

Demoliton all the way.

Dec 19, 2008 23:55:36 GMT -5 Dave at the Movies said:

I think overall LOD was the better but you have to give a lot of credit to Demolition for getting over and pulling off the gimmick almost just as well.

"Almost as well"?

Have you watched Wrestlemania VI lately? When Demolition defeated the Colossal Connection at that event to win the WWF tag titles for the 3rd time, they got just as big of an ovation as Hogan and Warrior did! There's a reason for that, and the words "almost as well" aren't in the reason.

In fact, most of the time during the Hogan/Warrior regime, Demolition had better matches than the main event wrestlers did. Demolition and the Hart Foundation easily stole the show at Summerslams 1988 and 1990. Demolition as tag champions would often be in the main event of house shows and TV tapings, sometimes with Hogan wrestling before them.

As others have said, Demolition could actually wrestle. The Road Warriors just wanted to go in there and pull an Ultimate Warrior and overpower you and not actually work the match. (Hmmm, was it purely coincidental that LOD ended up teaming up with Warrior when they first arrived in the WWF?) Consequentially, Demolition had overall better, more memorable matches than the Road Warriors, no matter which team they faced.

I admit I was also never a fan of any organization other than the WWF, and the Legion of Doom never did all that well in the WWF, while Demolition dominated the company. Hell, when Legion of Doom entered the WWF, they looked like the imitators since they hadn't been established there, and Demolition had. Besides, just because you are the originator of a gimmick doesn't mean that you're the best at it.

Dec 20, 2008 0:06:55 GMT -5 H-Fist said:

But Demolition...man... they beat the excretory matter out of each other at the Rumble in 1990.

That was the 1989 Rumble where Ax and Smash faced off at the beginning.

I'm not interested in an argument about who was better but I would like to point out that LOD came into the WWF just after a big tag team period where they were actually getting ready to break some teams up.

And I think the Ultimate Warrior teaming up with them to take on Demolition was actually an in-joke.

[Smark Henry]

The Road Warriors, hands down. The way they were the ultimate bad asses in the NWA. I'll never forget how hard I marked out when they made their heel turn, and tried to gouge Dusty's eye out! ;D I just wish they were booked as seriously in the WWF. Instead, they got Rocco.

[dizzy]

Dec 20, 2008 21:17:34 GMT -5 Smark Henry said:

I just wish they were booked as seriously in the WWF. Instead, they got Rocco.

Yeah, well, as I mentioned before, they were the Demolition clones when they arrived in the WWF. They couldn't have been booked as strong in the WWF because Demolition had already established and conquered the badass tag team persona.

[FrankGotch]

Dec 20, 2008 21:46:16 GMT -5 dizzy said:

Dec 20, 2008 21:17:34 GMT -5 Smark Henry said:

I just wish they were booked as seriously in the WWF. Instead, they got Rocco.

Yeah, well, as I mentioned before, they were the Demolition clones when they arrived in the WWF. They couldn't have been booked as strong in the WWF because Demolition had already established and conquered the badass tag team persona.

That's just stupid almost every wrestling fan even those who only watched the WWF knew that Demolition was a Road Warrior rip off. When they finally arrived in the WWF everyone wanted to see the LOD kick the Demos butts, and prove that they were the real deal which they did.

[rawthentic]

I picked LOD, but it was very close.

I thought LOD cut better promo's and had a better look and finisher.

Also, despite how over Demolition was when they beat Andre and Haku, they really soured in my book when they started feuding with the Hart Foundation and they added Crush later that year.

Atleast LOD waited untill nobody really cared about them anymore to add Droz.

[dizzy]

Dec 20, 2008 22:28:00 GMT -5 FrankGotch said:

That's just stupid almost every wrestling fan even those who only watched the WWF knew that Demolition was a Road Warrior rip off. When they finally arrived in the WWF everyone wanted to see the LOD kick the Demos butts, and prove that they were the real deal which they did.

Suuuuuuuuure buddy. Yeah, the WWF fans wanted LOD. They wanted LOD so badly that Legion of Doom NEVER, EVER amounted in the WWF to what Demolition amounted. Yeah, sure dude, you're right on the money.

Legion of Doom was never as popular and never as successful in the WWF, and there's a reason why. The fan responses didn't lie. The only reason the WWF fans jeered Demoliton at all when LOD entered in 1990 is because Vince and the office dismantled Demolition and recklessly pushed the Legion of Doom as babyfaces.

Dec 20, 2008 22:45:50 GMT -5 rawthentic said:

Also, despite how over Demolition was when they beat Andre and Haku, they really soured in my book when they started feuding with the Hart Foundation and they added Crush later that year.

That wasn't their fault or their decision to add Crush. Ax got very ill and couldn't compete for awhile. So Vince decided to bring in a third member. And they soured not when the feuded with the Harts, but when Vince threw them into that BS feud with the newly arrived Legion of Doom.

As I understood it by watching the storyline, the 1990 Demolition/Hart Foundation feud was supposed to go face vs face a la Hogan/Warrior. The arrival of the Road Warriors is what made the WWF turn Demolition heel.

[repomark]

I loved both but narrowly would give it to Demolition just for their entrance music. Mmmm - I voted for Goldberg in the Warrior v Goldberg poll based on entrance music as well. Am I too influenced by entrance music? Nevermind. Pain and destruction is their middle name.

[BD Punk AKA SUSPENDED!]

I loved em' both as a kid. I thought both had awesome attire as well as theme music. I have to go with Demolition though because they actually beat the piss out of each other for a few minutes in the 89' Rumble. That was badass.

[Aceorton]

Dec 20, 2008 10:17:20 GMT -5 The OP said:

Demolition.

I consider the Roid Warriors the most overrated workers in history, hands down.

I have never, ever understood the Road Warriors mania. If they weren't destroying their opponents in short order (really the only effective way they were ever used) or being led along by crazy-good workers who flopped all over the place, their matches were pedestrian at best. They had a cool finisher, but for the most part they just bored me. Hawks' no-selling was unbelievably stupid for maintaining believability. And then, on a much smarkier level, I read about Animal's hissy fits every time they ever were asked to do a job, and they come off as a couple of thankless assholes.

Plus, they held onto their 1985 gimmick well into the late 1990s, when it was embarrassingly outdated.

I respect the Demolition guys a lot more because they had to overcome the "LOD clones" stigma and yet they still became hugely popular in their own right. They also had good matches with just about everyone they faced, probably because they allowed more give-and-take with their opponents than LOD ever was willing to do in their prime.

[scifi1980]

Dec 21, 2008 22:58:23 GMT -5 Aceorton said:

Dec 20, 2008 10:17:20 GMT -5 The OP said:

Demolition.

I consider the Roid Warriors the most overrated workers in history, hands down.

I have never, ever understood the Road Warriors mania. If they weren't destroying their opponents in short order (really the only effective way they were ever used) or being led along by crazy-good workers who flopped all over the place, their matches were pedestrian at best. They had a cool finisher, but for the most part they just bored me. Hawks' no-selling was unbelievably stupid for maintaining believability. And then, on a much smarkier level, I read about Animal's hissy fits every time they ever were asked to do a job, and they come off as a couple of thankless assholes.

Plus, they held onto their 1985 gimmick well into the late 1990s, when it was embarrassingly outdated.

I respect the Demolition guys a lot more because they had to overcome the "LOD clones" stigma and yet they still became hugely popular in their own right. They also had good matches with just about everyone they faced, probably because they allowed more give-and-take with their opponents than LOD ever was willing to do in their prime.

That's what I hated about their feud. LOD no soled nearly everything Demolition did and Demo were starting to act like sneaky sissys.

The only good moment from their feud for me was the week before Survivor Series 90 when Demolition and Orient Express beat them unconcious. Hawk even took the demolition decapitation and sold it like he was dead.

I like Demolition much more. Even though they were gone when I started watching, and LOD were the current tag champs in summer 91 I just liked Demolition more. Better entrance music they weren't super powerful and they had the death masks which ruled

[Dave at the Movies]

I have to say I think LOD's two runs in WWF were actually pretty good. they got a lot more over in the early 90s but you have to admit they still got over in 97 when they were both pushing it in age and shape.

[FrankGotch]

Dec 21, 2008 16:57:24 GMT -5 dizzy said:

Dec 20, 2008 22:28:00 GMT -5 FrankGotch said:

That's just stupid almost every wrestling fan even those who only watched the WWF knew that Demolition was a Road Warrior rip off. When they finally arrived in the WWF everyone wanted to see the LOD kick the Demos butts, and prove that they were the real deal which they did.

Suuuuuuuuure buddy. Yeah, the WWF fans wanted LOD. They wanted LOD so badly that Legion of Doom NEVER, EVER amounted in the WWF to what Demolition amounted. Yeah, sure dude, you're right on the money.

Legion of Doom was never as popular and never as successful in the WWF, and there's a reason why. The fan responses didn't lie. The only reason the WWF fans jeered Demoliton at all when LOD entered in 1990 is because Vince and the office dismantled Demolition and recklessly pushed the Legion of Doom as babyfaces.

Dec 20, 2008 22:45:50 GMT -5 rawthentic said:

Also, despite how over Demolition was when they beat Andre and Haku, they really soured in my book when they started feuding with the Hart Foundation and they added Crush later that year.

That wasn't their fault or their decision to add Crush. Ax got very ill and couldn't compete for awhile. So Vince decided to bring in a third member. And they soured not when the feuded with the Harts, but when Vince threw them into that BS feud with the newly arrived Legion of Doom.

As I understood it by watching the storyline, the 1990 Demolition/Hart Foundation feud was supposed to go face vs face a la Hogan/Warrior. The arrival of the Road Warriors is what made the WWF turn Demolition heel.

You got to be kidding me LOD was just as over in the WWF as they were anywhere else. You my friend are drinking the smark juice if you really belive that Demolition was ever as over as the Road Warriors, even in the WWF. And stop making up history that never happened, LOD didn't fail in the WWF, the fans didn't turn on them. STOP MAKING STUFF UP!

Also just to drive home my point LOD came into the WWF as faces and Demo's always played the heels when they had matches together. It wasn't because of some cray scheme by Vince and the front office, it was because the majority of the fans were behind LOD, and they made more money for the company.
Try to deny it all you want but back then in the WWF there was no such thing as a cool heel and the Demos were the heels for a reason.

[CM Dazz]

Too close to call

[dizzy]

Dec 22, 2008 1:18:05 GMT -5 Dave at the Movies said:

I have to say I think LOD's two runs in WWF were actually pretty good. they got a lot more over in the early 90s but you have to admit they still got over in 97 when they were both pushing it in age and shape.

Their first run was decent but cut short before its prime by Hawk's injury and then his/their falling out with Vince McMahon.

As for 1997, they got over decently with the fans at first. I was excited to see them at first, but then I wasn't impressed by that run at all. It was short lived and they seemed too much of a jobber team (to the New Age Outlaws) and a transitional team (that LOD 2000 crap, not to mentioned the ludicrousy of being managed by Sunny).

Dec 22, 2008 1:00:01 GMT -5 scifi1980 said:

That's what I hated about their feud. LOD no soled nearly everything Demolition did and Demo were starting to act like sneaky sissys.

Barry Darsow spoke of this during Demolition's shoot interview. He said that the Road Warriors were the only really difficult team for them to work with, because LOD always wanted to just go in there and overpower everybody all the time. Bill Eadie also remarked that he and Darsow were physically bigger than Hawk and Animal, so it made it doubly difficult to sell the power-beatings that LOD was dishing out.

Dec 22, 2008 1:27:11 GMT -5 FrankGotch said:

You got to be kidding me LOD was just as over in the WWF as they were anywhere else.

No they weren't. Were they liked? Yeah, but they didn't have the huge following and influence that they had in their prior territories.

You've been watching that BS Road Warriors DVD (jesus, talk about revising history!) too much, where they yapped about how "big" LOD were in the WWF. A DVD which also did everything to minimize how huge Demolition were.

The best example is that moron Edge, when he made that ludicrous statement that fans were so angry (during the 80s) that Demolition was in the WWF and the Road Warriors weren't. Yeah, the fans were so damn mad, entire arenas full of them were cheering Demolition loudly and clearly every damn night!

LOD didn't fail in the WWF, the fans didn't turn on them.

I never said LOD failed in the WWF, nor did I ever say the fans turned on them. You obviously just haven't passed your readings classes in 2nd grade yet.

I said that they weren't as successful in the WWF as they were elsewhere, which is true. And I also said they weren't as successful in WWF as Demolition was, which is also true.

So you need to learn how to read and STOP MAKING STUFF UP!

Also just to drive home my point

The only "point" that you have is on top of your head, and if you brush your hair it won't show.

LOD came into the WWF as faces and Demo's always played the heels when they had matches together. It wasn't because of some cray scheme by Vince and the front office,

Yes it was. Period. Hawk and Animal even admitted this on their 1999 shoot interview.

t was because the majority of the fans were behind LOD, and they made more money for the company.

Wrong. LOD's erratic stints in the WWF never made as much as Demolition's huge drawing power during the times when they would often headline house shows and SNME cards.

Do yourself a favor and obtain a copy of Wrestlemania VI. You'll watch Demolition get a HUGE, and I mean HUGE pop from nearly 70,000 fans when they win their match.

Then just try and imagine the Legion of Doom entering the ring and trying to fight Demolition then. Face to face.

Are you really naive enough to believe that those 67,678 fans that had just gone absolutely nuts for Demolition would suddenly start booing them and start rooting for the Legion of Doom?

I suppose you are clueless enough to say that. I mean hell, you were ignorant enough to say it's all about what the fans think and not at all about how the WWF office pushes you, so yeah, you probably do think that the entire SkyDome would've turned on Demolition if the Road Warriors had stormed the ring after the match.

Demolition rules, end of story.

It just really sucks that WW "E" tells tales of revisionist history where they ignore Demolition and the contributions they made to the WWF, and the entertainment they provided the fans. But those of us who watched WWF during the late 80s knew what freakin tag team we were rooting for.

[Joekishi]

I just watched LOD destroy the Rock 'n Roll express, and good god that never gets old seeing Ricky Morton get annihilated by Hawk and Animal.

[FrankGotch]

Dec 22, 2008 2:12:42 GMT -5 dizzy said:

Dec 22, 2008 1:18:05 GMT -5 Dave at the Movies said:

I have to say I think LOD's two runs in WWF were actually pretty good. they got a lot more over in the early 90s but you have to admit they still got over in 97 when they were both pushing it in age and shape.

Their first run was decent but cut short before its prime by Hawk's injury and then his/their falling out with Vince McMahon.

As for 1997, they got over decently with the fans at first. I was excited to see them at first, but then I wasn't impressed by that run at all. It was short lived and they seemed too much of a jobber team (to the New Age Outlaws) and a transitional team (that LOD 2000 crap, not to mentioned the ludicrousy of being managed by Sunny).



Barry Darsow spoke of this during Demolition's shoot interview. He said that the Road Warriors were the only really difficult team for them to work with, because LOD always wanted to just go in there and overpower everybody all the time. Bill Eadie also remarked that he and Darsow were physically bigger than Hawk and Animal, so it made it doubly difficult to sell the power-beatings that LOD was dishing out.




No they weren't. Were they liked? Yeah, but they didn't have the huge following and influence that they had in their prior territories.

You've been watching that BS Road Warriors DVD (jesus, talk about revising history!) too much, where they yapped about how "big" LOD were in the WWF. A DVD which also did everything to minimize how huge Demolition were.

The best example is that moron Edge, when he made that ludicrous statement that fans were so angry (during the 80s) that Demolition was in the WWF and the Road Warriors weren't. Yeah, the fans were so damn mad, entire arenas full of them were cheering Demolition loudly and clearly every damn night!



I never said LOD failed in the WWF, nor did I ever say the fans turned on them. You obviously just haven't passed your readings classes in 2nd grade yet.

I said that they weren't as successful in the WWF as they were elsewhere, which is true. And I also said they weren't as successful in WWF as Demolition was, which is also true.

So you need to learn how to read and STOP MAKING STUFF UP!



The only "point" that you have is on top of your head, and if you brush your hair it won't show.



Yes it was. Period. Hawk and Animal even admitted this on their 1999 shoot interview.

t was because the majority of the fans were behind LOD, and they made more money for the company.

Wrong. LOD's erratic stints in the WWF never made as much as Demolition's huge drawing power during the times when they would often headline house shows and SNME cards.

Do yourself a favor and obtain a copy of Wrestlemania VI. You'll watch Demolition get a HUGE, and I mean HUGE pop from nearly 70,000 fans when they win their match.

Then just try and imagine the Legion of Doom entering the ring and trying to fight Demolition then. Face to face.

Are you really naive enough to believe that those 67,678 fans that had just gone absolutely nuts for Demolition would suddenly start booing them and start rooting for the Legion of Doom?

I suppose you are clueless enough to say that. I mean hell, you were ignorant enough to say it's all about what the fans think and not at all about how the WWF office pushes you, so yeah, you probably do think that the entire SkyDome would've turned on Demolition if the Road Warriors had stormed the ring after the match.

Demolition rules, end of story.

It just really sucks that WW "E" tells tales of revisionist history where they ignore Demolition and the contributions they made to the WWF, and the entertainment they provided the fans. But those of us who watched WWF during the late 80s knew what freakin tag team we were rooting for.

Dizzy why do you insist on making crap up? The crowd sure seemed to be happy with this outcome. The crowd was always behind Hawk and Animal and the only one who killed their push was Hawk when he suddenly quit.

You also keep bring up the huge pop that Demolition got at WM6. I could bring up 100's of cases where guys got huge pops, it doesn't mean that they sold more merchandise or were more popular then Hulk Hogan. The reason that the Demos got such a huge pop was because they were fighting Bobby Heenan and his boys. You could replace them with the Heart foundation, Rockers, or anyone else they wanted to turn face, and they would have gotten just as big a pop.

[repomark]

Dec 22, 2008 10:48:36 GMT -5 FrankGotch said:

Dec 22, 2008 2:12:42 GMT -5 dizzy said:

Their first run was decent but cut short before its prime by Hawk's injury and then his/their falling out with Vince McMahon.

As for 1997, they got over decently with the fans at first. I was excited to see them at first, but then I wasn't impressed by that run at all. It was short lived and they seemed too much of a jobber team (to the New Age Outlaws) and a transitional team (that LOD 2000 crap, not to mentioned the ludicrousy of being managed by Sunny).



Barry Darsow spoke of this during Demolition's shoot interview. He said that the Road Warriors were the only really difficult team for them to work with, because LOD always wanted to just go in there and overpower everybody all the time. Bill Eadie also remarked that he and Darsow were physically bigger than Hawk and Animal, so it made it doubly difficult to sell the power-beatings that LOD was dishing out.




No they weren't. Were they liked? Yeah, but they didn't have the huge following and influence that they had in their prior territories.

You've been watching that BS Road Warriors DVD (jesus, talk about revising history!) too much, where they yapped about how "big" LOD were in the WWF. A DVD which also did everything to minimize how huge Demolition were.

The best example is that moron Edge, when he made that ludicrous statement that fans were so angry (during the 80s) that Demolition was in the WWF and the Road Warriors weren't. Yeah, the fans were so damn mad, entire arenas full of them were cheering Demolition loudly and clearly every damn night!



I never said LOD failed in the WWF, nor did I ever say the fans turned on them. You obviously just haven't passed your readings classes in 2nd grade yet.

I said that they weren't as successful in the WWF as they were elsewhere, which is true. And I also said they weren't as successful in WWF as Demolition was, which is also true.

So you need to learn how to read and STOP MAKING STUFF UP!



The only "point" that you have is on top of your head, and if you brush your hair it won't show.



Yes it was. Period. Hawk and Animal even admitted this on their 1999 shoot interview.



Wrong. LOD's erratic stints in the WWF never made as much as Demolition's huge drawing power during the times when they would often headline house shows and SNME cards.

Do yourself a favor and obtain a copy of Wrestlemania VI. You'll watch Demolition get a HUGE, and I mean HUGE pop from nearly 70,000 fans when they win their match.

Then just try and imagine the Legion of Doom entering the ring and trying to fight Demolition then. Face to face.

Are you really naive enough to believe that those 67,678 fans that had just gone absolutely nuts for Demolition would suddenly start booing them and start rooting for the Legion of Doom?

I suppose you are clueless enough to say that. I mean hell, you were ignorant enough to say it's all about what the fans think and not at all about how the WWF office pushes you, so yeah, you probably do think that the entire SkyDome would've turned on Demolition if the Road Warriors had stormed the ring after the match.

Demolition rules, end of story.

It just really sucks that WW "E" tells tales of revisionist history where they ignore Demolition and the contributions they made to the WWF, and the entertainment they provided the fans. But those of us who watched WWF during the late 80s knew what freakin tag team we were rooting for.

Dizzy why do you insist on making crap up? The crowd sure seemed to be happy with this outcome. The crowd was always behind Hawk and Animal and the only one who killed their push was Hawk when he suddenly quit.

You also keep bring up the huge pop that Demolition got at WM6. I could bring up 100's of cases where guys got huge pops, it doesn't mean that they sold more merchandise or were more popular then Hulk Hogan. The reason that the Demos got such a huge pop was because they were fighting Bobby Heenan and his boys. You could replace them with the Heart foundation, Rockers, or anyone else they wanted to turn face, and they would have gotten just as big a pop.

I disagree on the point about just putting anyone against Andre and Haku and they would have got a huge pop. Demolition were very over there is not doubt about it and I don't think had they just thrown two random people together to face the Colossal Connection the reaction would not have been the same. The Harts and the Rockers were both massively over yes, but anyone else they wanted to turn face? I do not think the Orient Express would have got a reaction like that just because they were facing a member of the Heenan family!

Demolition were the most over team at the time. I think it was a huge botch by the WWE the way they did not utilise the Demolition v LOD feud as well as they could have. Admittedly Ax's back had given out by that stage and Crush coming in just was not the same, but I still think more could have been done to really push the feud and have the blow off match at WM7.

LOD were hugely popular and I really was a fan, however I think Demolition do not get the credit that they deserve.

[FrankGotch]

Yeah I agree with you repomark, when I said anyone else I was mostly talking about the over tag teams of the time. Hart Foundation, POP, The Bushwackers, Rockers, ect. Guy who could cut a decent promo and were already somewhat over with the fans. I don't think Orient Express could have done it, mostly because they wouldn't be able to do the promos.

Also agree that its a shame Ax's back started acting up, because I was a fan of Demolition and LOD, and I would have loved to see a proper feud between them. I also agree that Demolition doesn't get the respect they deserve, given that they were originally supposed to be the WWF's Renigade, but got over on their own.

However I think it is complete and total smark revisionist history to say crud like LOD failed in the WWF, and the only reason they were over was because they were being shoved down the fans throats by Vince. As for which team made more money for the WWF, well I don't seem to remember any kids with Demolition mask on, but I sure do remember seeing a ton of those foam rubber shoulder pads.

[dizzy]

Dec 22, 2008 11:55:53 GMT -5 FrankGotch said:

However I think it is complete and total smark revisionist history to say crud like LOD failed in the WWF

Again, you misquote me and you continue spinning in circles.

I'm glad someone else had the good sense to point out that not just any popular team in the WWF in 1990 could've gone against Colossal Connection and gotten the huge pop that Demolition did. They were getting those pops at every arena in which they performed (and I have old WWF TV shows on tape to know). They were the team that was built up so huge as the vengeful former champions against the Colossal Connection, not the Hart Foundation, the Rockers, or anyone else.

As for merchandise, I don't remember those shoulder pads being manufactured for Demolition. But I do remember seeing tons of Demolition shirts and posters in the audience at every TV taping, and pay per view.

And I notice that you COMPLETELY ignored my hypothetical challenge; if LOD had run to the ring after Demolition's victory, are you truly stupid enough to believe that the nearly 68,000 fans that just went wild over Demolition's victory would suddenly start rooting for them to get their asses kicked by a couple of WWF newcomers like Hawk and Animal?

and the only reason they were over was because they were being shoved down the fans throats by Vince.

Once again, you're naive enough to believe that the office has nothing to do with who's a heel and who's a babyface.

I personally guarantee that if Hawk and Animal had entered the WWF at anytime during Demolition's huge heydey as babyfaces, the fans would've booed LOD right out of the building -- especially at Wrestlemania VI!


Oh yes, and "smark" is not a word.

[FrankGotch]

To answer your questions.

If LOD had run down to ringside right after Demolition won the titles the crowd would have popped HUGE! Saying they wouldn't have is like saying that the crowd wouldn't have popped if Stone Clod had run down to the ring, and interfered right after Goldberg had defeated Hogan for the WCW title. People knew who the Road Warriors were, and many fans did view the Demos as a poor mans LOD. Weather they cheered or booed all depended on how they were booked from then on.

Wich leads to your next question.

Am I so naive that I belive that the office had nothing to do with heels and faces? No, but apparently you are so naive that you belive that Vince would throw away a super over money making team like Demolition to push two guys who would get booed out of the building if they had not gotten help in their "failed" run in the company.Wrestling is about making money and the Road Warriors made a ton of it that is why they got their push.

Also smark is a word it has a meaning, a definition, and I could use it in a sentence and everyone in here knows what I'm talking about.