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Post by Robbymac on Dec 27, 2008 0:40:18 GMT -5
So I'm watching AWA on ESPN Classic tonight and Col. DeBeers is coming out to "Welcome to the Jungle"
That might be the worst choice of entrance music I've ever heard. Any other examples you can think of?
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Post by The Tank on Dec 27, 2008 0:43:19 GMT -5
Shawn Michaels:
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Post by Joe Neglia on Dec 27, 2008 0:51:40 GMT -5
Big Show's.
For a guy like him, you want something thunderous, loud and...well, giant.
Instead, we get 10 years of porn music and bad lyrics.
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Post by Zombie Pig on Dec 27, 2008 1:02:38 GMT -5
Randy Orton's theme after he was kicked out of Evolution. Don't get me wrong, it worked for his face run, but after that went to hell he should have been given a more heelish theme.
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Post by The Line on Dec 27, 2008 1:51:56 GMT -5
Yeah, Burn in my light was a bad heel theme. Luckily, Voices is badass to the max.
Speaking of Orton, the week where he came out to This Fire Burns was pretty crazy.
And Cor Von's theme(s) were strange.
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Post by Nacho STAYS Hyped on Dec 27, 2008 1:58:37 GMT -5
When Booker T had the "Leave it to Beaver" music.
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Post by KLRA on Dec 27, 2008 2:35:37 GMT -5
Big Show's. For a guy like him, you want something thunderous, loud and...well, giant. Instead, we get 10 years of porn music and bad lyrics. I actually think his music is perfect. It's incredibly recognizable, and when I hear it I just have this picture in my head of him crushing someone. Heh heh he crush you.
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Post by santmare12 on Dec 27, 2008 2:38:19 GMT -5
Remember when Kidman had this as a theme?
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Post by KLRA on Dec 27, 2008 2:39:16 GMT -5
On a related note, remember when Kidman had talent?
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Post by The Tank on Dec 27, 2008 3:03:22 GMT -5
Remember when Kidman had this as a theme? First off, I think that's actually a pretty good theme. I'd say it works with Kidman pretty well. On that note, who is that? DMX? Seriously, I have no idea, but that's who it sounds like to me.
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Post by invaderdave on Dec 27, 2008 3:22:43 GMT -5
On a related note, remember when Kidman had talent? Good times, good times. Anyway, unfitting themes...as much as I love the Melvins, and Interstellar Overdrive, I really don't think it worked very well for GeNext, especially when Jack Evans came out to it. I remember on a few earlier CHIKARA shows, Quack came out to some crazy J-Pop music. Just didn't work, especially since I'm so used to him using Tears for Fears. In fact, whenever anybody comes out to J-Pop, and isn't Japanese, or doesn't have an Otaku gimmick, it doesn't work. ...Remember in 2002, when everyone either came out to Limp Biskit, or Linkin Park? Remember how it SUCKED?
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Post by drjayphd (feat. Pitbull) on Dec 27, 2008 4:03:28 GMT -5
...Remember in 2002, when everyone either came out to Limp Biskit, or Linkin Park? Remember how it SUCKED? Remember the last seven years, when people still come out to Disturbed's "Down With the Sickness"? Remember how it sucks HARDER?
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Post by santmare12 on Dec 27, 2008 4:19:37 GMT -5
Remember when Kidman had this as a theme? First off, I think that's actually a pretty good theme. I'd say it works with Kidman pretty well. On that note, who is that? DMX? Seriously, I have no idea, but that's who it sounds like to me. I never said it was a bad theme. I like the song. I just feel it didnt fit Kidman at the time, who was a generic, yet talented wrestler. He wasnt a Flock member, he was just plain, ol' Billy Kidman. With tough rap music as a theme. And...I got no clue who sings it, btw.
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Post by brutuscheesecake on Dec 27, 2008 11:30:58 GMT -5
Macho Man with his graduation theme. Why did he have that music when his brother was the Genius with the robe, tassels, mortarboard. Shouldn't he have the graduation theme
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Post by invaderdave on Dec 27, 2008 11:58:58 GMT -5
Because Macho's character was that of a man with a lot of pizazz and flash and sizzle, so Pomp and Circumstance was meant to reflect that.
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Post by Sajoa Moe on Dec 27, 2008 12:12:22 GMT -5
Michelle McCool, the cheery, spunky, smiling, high-fiving babyface coming out to music best suited for a bitchy heel.
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Post by rapidfire187 on Dec 27, 2008 13:35:56 GMT -5
What were they thinking when they gave Regal this music???
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Post by thesunbeast on Dec 27, 2008 14:55:53 GMT -5
I don't see whats so wrong about some of these guys' themes. I think this is quickly turning into a thread of "themes I personally like" rather than "themes that fit the charactor". For example, I liked Randy's Burn in my light theme, but I admit that it wasn't quite a chicken heel's theme, mabey a wishy-washy heel like Kurt Angle. As a matter of fact, Burn in my light would have been a perfect heel, milk-drinking, fall to my knees in celebration because I beat meat (the jobber), Kurt Angle theme. If Angle had that theme for his debut, there would have been an "I beat meat" campeign.
Another example, TL Hoppers theme fit his charactor, and bastion booger's theme fit his charactor.
Do you want to know what the real problem is? It's that the charactors, and the wrestling business itself, has fallen victim to the political correctness of what it means to embrace music in today's times. The whole point of music is to intuitively communicate and bring out feelings that aren't easily communicated with words, there's a concept behind the sounds. So, back when music was used for this purpose, wrestling was no different. Music was made for a charactor to make the listener feel certain emotions, but, it would have to be the same emotions that the charactor himself made you feel, so that there was a connection. Jake Robert's "trust me" theme made you feel fear, Jake Roberts, made you feel fear.
But, things are different today. Today, music isn't really about that now, It's really about the person themself. Basically what I'm saying, is that today, music is about showing people how cool you are. It's about putting over a culture over the sounds, not about the culture being a part of the sounds. It's not about the music, it's about yourself. Today, If you watch any music video, the music is usually just "OK", but the point of the video is soley about the person selling him or herself, and people would likely not even listen to the song on the radio unless they saw the video first so the can have a visual. If It's a girl in the video, the main thing is that she has to show you how hot she is, if it's a guy in the video, the only thing that matters is that he shows you how much of a cool pimp he is. It's not even politically correct anymore to even say that you liked a band or song from the 80's better than today. Why? If it was really all about the music would it be that way? If I said I liked 80's classical better than today's classical, would that be PC? Ofcourse it would, there's no "way of like" with classical. But, If today you say you liked Journey better than 50 cent, people will actually think that you're saying that you like mullets and jeans better than bling, fast cars, and rims. That's how bad it really is.
During the 80's, the greatest performers were the ugliest people you would ever see in your life. Take a look at them. If they looked good, they would find a way to make themself look as ugly as possible. They had kick ass music video's, but the music was the primary factor, not "them". As a matter of fact, in their video's, they were singing on a stage 75% of the time.
Unfortunetely, Wrestling has taken the same turn. Because music used to be about comminicating feelings as 1st priority instead of 4th, some music used to not even be classified into a genure at all! One of them was called "wrestling music". The music was made to make you feel what the charactor makes you feel, and they would stop at nothing in order to do that, even if it meant the viewer not knowing what kind of music they were listening to.
Now, It's different. Wrestling has fallen onto the bandwagon. As a matter of fact, they made special shoes with propellers and nitris cans on them so they can yell "hey, wait up" and run up to the band wagon and hop on in. Today It's "hey charles, did you see that *name a wrestler* is coming out to *name a popular song* made by *name a popular band*?" Don't even get me started on the ppv's.
I'm a big believer in wrestling using themes that have no lyrics, as feelings get stronger when you don't have to concentrate on them (or get distracted). The only guy that should have lyrics in his theme is the flagship of the company. they should just have a "cool" overall song. The flagship isn't supposed to be special one way or another, he's supposed to be special well rounded, basically, a heightened sense of "normal". He's the guy that takes everyone else on. People say that if you're going to be a main eventer, then you have to be big. I disagree. If you want to face a main eventer, or be in the main event to get fed to the flagship, then you have better be big, or be something. Big, funny, or "this" or "that" aren't "mainstream", but the flagship is supposed to be "mainstream", which requires an even balance of certain things. So, the flagship can get away with just having a cool song with lyrics, but everyone else? Forget it, I'm not a fan of that.
Today, IMO Anyone other than John Cena, HHH, HBK, or evolution, had better music when they didn't have lyrics put into them, not better music per se as a fan, but better music that fit's their charactors. And definitely had better music when Jim Johnson wrote it for them before they had a popular band make a song for them when they didn't understand the charactor, all for the sake of going "with the times", whatever the hell that's supposed to mean. the songs that don't have lyrics are just generic arena rock themes that basic.
So, I don't really think that many of the wrestlers have music that quite fit's their charactor like it should
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Post by thesunbeast on Dec 27, 2008 15:03:17 GMT -5
Remember when Kidman had this as a theme? First off, I think that's actually a pretty good theme. I'd say it works with Kidman pretty well. On that note, who is that? DMX? Seriously, I have no idea, but that's who it sounds like to me. Nah, I don't think that's the real DMX, I think It's just a guy that seems like DMX, which i guess is good enough. And by the way, this is a perfect example of what I'm talking about.
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Post by mightydavidson on Dec 27, 2008 15:59:36 GMT -5
I recall a samoan team, I belive they were the Samoan Swat Team but I'm not 100% sure, coming to the ring to Bobby McFerrin's "Don't Worry, Be Happy." That was in the AWA.
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