Jazzman
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Post by Jazzman on Nov 13, 2009 15:09:46 GMT -5
I have to stay true to my word. With that being said...
VOTE: Jagiliki
Also Fos at Mr. E for what Bundy said above
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Oak: Certified Jade Hater
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Post by Oak: Certified Jade Hater on Nov 13, 2009 15:49:49 GMT -5
I get the feeling that Jag is either townie (but being a brash one at that) or a third party similar to Daveman was back in the WC Mafia game. I'm not saying he's role-claiming and trying to get others to do the same, but he definitely has heat on him and has made himself a bit of a martyr.
FOS: Jagilki
Also, I'll be gone for the weekend. I'll try to post when I can, but I may not be able to post until Monday or so.
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Post by Curt Hawkins Fan on Nov 13, 2009 16:37:47 GMT -5
Blah
I'm still here, just keep forgetting to check on the game.
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Post by ritt works hard fo da chickens on Nov 13, 2009 16:43:48 GMT -5
Seems like the bandwagon is about to begin with Jag. I am a little leary to get real defensive of him this early, because so much is up in the air at this time, but I find it rather a bit safe for some people to pick him as a target since he did mention he will be hunting this week. I do give him credit for trying to keep up with this thread.
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Jazzman
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Post by Jazzman on Nov 13, 2009 17:01:18 GMT -5
Seems like the bandwagon is about to begin with Jag. I am a little leary to get real defensive of him this early, because so much is up in the air at this time, but I find it rather a bit safe for some people to pick him as a target since he did mention he will be hunting this week. I do give him credit for trying to keep up with this thread. His hunting has nothing to do with my reasoning. I'm fairly confident that it has nothing to do with anyone else's reasoning either. I am starting to get wary of you trying to move the blame to others over reasons that have nothing to do with anything though.
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Post by ritt works hard fo da chickens on Nov 13, 2009 17:22:19 GMT -5
Nah, I meant that he wasn't going to be around as much because of the hunting as he stated, so he has less chance to defend himself, IE he is kind of an easy target where as if you picked any other lurker they might show up a lot to defend themselves and the debate puts both people in the spotlight which nobody wants this early on. I am always leary of bandwagons, especially when there is very little to go off of. If someone says they are a serial killer but they really honestly want to help the town, yeah I am all for getting on that bandwagon.
If we are going to hang someone I would like to be as sure as possible that it is going to be for the good of the town.
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Post by Mr. Emoticon Man, TF Fan on Nov 13, 2009 17:22:30 GMT -5
ebwop one more thing: FoS: Mr. Emoticon Manwhy would someone be so quick to try and defend jagilki when all he has is one FoS on him? I have two theories. 1) Mr. Emoticon Man has some info on jagilki that proves him innocent (possibly linked roles) 2) they are scumbuddies trying to keep his buddy from being targetted by the town. Now i'm not trying to suggest we lynch anyone this early in the game, especially before the lurkers pop in. However, if jag is lynched and he flips scum there's a very good chance the Emoticon flips scum as well. I don't have anything on jag. I just think people are jumping at shadows. At this point, I don't have the slightest clue as to who is Mafia... but I do know that I'm not going to keep my mouth shut if I see people ignoring possibilities just to have someone to be suspicious of. And rushing to put suspicion on people for frivolous reasons and then throwing further suspicion on anyone who doesn't see things the same way strikes me as being counter-productive in this game.
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Post by Ravishing One on Nov 13, 2009 19:21:56 GMT -5
Still the same opinion as last post. Just staying active.
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Post by psychotix5000 on Nov 13, 2009 19:41:38 GMT -5
I'm not ignoring possibilities. I just don't think it's very likely for a mafia vet to be playing the dumb townie. I'll hold off voting for him til he has a chance to explain himself.
Also, to address concerns that a bandwagon is starting on jagilki that's not what i'm trying to do at all. If i feel very confident that he's scum then i'll want him lynched. Till then it's just suspicion. However, with how he's been playing (bringing up a "lie detector" role that i've never heard of & isn't mentioned in the flash tutorial linked on page 1 to try to prove he's telling the truth) it doesn't look good for him. I just want to reiterate that i'm not advocating a bandwagon starting on jag and will be highly suspicious of anyone doing so this early in the game.
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Post by D2: Sweet & Sour Edition on Nov 13, 2009 19:42:48 GMT -5
Why is it that every time we have a game, either Jag or Jazz usually end up being the first victim of the random mob? I just noticed that.
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Post by crudulak on Nov 13, 2009 20:04:04 GMT -5
jagilki does seem overly confident. That doesn't really scream scum to me.
What I think is scummier is filler posts, and not helping the town. He had several filler posts in a row aggressively defending himself, then acts like it doesn't really matter after all. Day one is early still, so I won't vote yet.
Do you have any suspects, jag?
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Post by OblivionSorceress on Nov 13, 2009 20:12:27 GMT -5
Why is it that every time we have a game, either Jag or Jazz usually end up being the first victim of the random mob? I just noticed that. I think it's their play styles. That's the only thing I think it could be that makes them targets.
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Post by Mr. Emoticon Man, TF Fan on Nov 13, 2009 20:18:53 GMT -5
Or they've just got very bad luck.
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Post by OblivionSorceress on Nov 13, 2009 20:24:15 GMT -5
Nah, I meant that he wasn't going to be around as much because of the hunting as he stated, so he has less chance to defend himself, IE he is kind of an easy target where as if you picked any other lurker they might show up a lot to defend themselves and the debate puts both people in the spotlight which nobody wants this early on. I am always leary of bandwagons, especially when there is very little to go off of. If someone says they are a serial killer but they really honestly want to help the town, yeah I am all for getting on that bandwagon. If we are going to hang someone I would like to be as sure as possible that it is going to be for the good of the town. I agree with you that a bandwagon is starting on Jag. I also am one who is leary of bandwagons. I mean sometimes they are for good reasons but sometimes they are just convenient for Mafia members. I also am not ready to go vote for him yet cause I just don't feel too sure about the whole thing.
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Post by Jonathan Michaels on Nov 13, 2009 23:27:22 GMT -5
Sometimes the bandwagons are right.
VOTE: jagilki
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Post by pegasuswarrior on Nov 13, 2009 23:33:54 GMT -5
This is just a question I want to throw out there: Day One is the only day that can end with a vote of No Lynch; do you think that voting "No Lynch" is in the best interest of the town or not?
I guess since jagilki and Jazzman are at the heart of the current suspicion back-and-forth talk, I'd be most interested to hear both of them respond. But it'd probably be in all of the town's interest to hear everyone else's opinion too.
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Post by Maidpool w/ Cleaning Action on Nov 14, 2009 0:16:00 GMT -5
Catching up from where I left off I still think Al Bundy makes some very good points. Jag has seemed way over confident.
However, if Jag really was mafia I don't think he'd make himself the center of attention this badly. I mean EVERYONE is starting to look his way and as a mafia member that's just not smart is it?
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Post by OblivionSorceress on Nov 14, 2009 1:26:51 GMT -5
I'm not ignoring possibilities. I just don't think it's very likely for a mafia vet to be playing the dumb townie. I'll hold off voting for him til he has a chance to explain himself. Also, to address concerns that a bandwagon is starting on jagilki that's not what i'm trying to do at all. If i feel very confident that he's scum then i'll want him lynched. Till then it's just suspicion. However, with how he's been playing (bringing up a "lie detector" role that i've never heard of & isn't mentioned in the flash tutorial linked on page 1 to try to prove he's telling the truth) it doesn't look good for him. I just want to reiterate that i'm not advocating a bandwagon starting on jag and will be highly suspicious of anyone doing so this early in the game. I did some research and I did find a Mafia Game Rules page that has a Lie Detector role listed. It says that, "Player can send one post each night to the Moderator. The Moderator will say whether or not the Player was being truthful in that post." That's the description for a Lie Detector. Now since this role doesn't appear to be in the flash tutorial; I think it is safe to assume there isn't one in this game. Perhaps since he's played before he didn't feel the need to look at that tutorial and was just suggesting that as a possibility. Hmm..now that I read more into his posts, it appears that be brought up the Lie Detector role because he was hoping there was one (so it seems to me. I am not mafia this go around. I don't fear a lynch. If people feel I should be lynched I'd rather have done, then people can concentrate on finding the true scum. *Sigh* I said it flat out like that in the off chance that somebody may have a Lie Detector role. *note, I'm going to be out of town over the weekend. No net access. Either he is a townie who really wants there to be a Lie Detector so as to prove his innocence or he is a fantastic mafia player. I say that because perhaps he knows there is no Lie Detector in the game but wants others to think he thinks there's one so he can "show" he's innocent. I hope that made sense to someone. I tried to explain the complex thoughts in my head as best I could. At the moment I'm leaning more toward him being the townie; it's just a strong gut feeling I have.
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Post by OblivionSorceress on Nov 14, 2009 1:30:35 GMT -5
EBWOP
Well wait, maybe not a fantastic mafia player since at the moment he is probably the most suspected person here. So that really makes me lean even more toward him being a townie.
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Post by Brandon Walsh is Insane. on Nov 14, 2009 1:35:36 GMT -5
Catching up from where I left off I still think Al Bundy makes some very good points. Jag has seemed way over confident. However, if Jag really was mafia I don't think he'd make himself the center of attention this badly. I mean EVERYONE is starting to look his way and as a mafia member that's just not smart is it? Maybe a fellow mafia member was named earlier, and he's trying to get the heat off of him? Or maybe, we are all being smoked and mirrored and we are missing something greater that is going on right in front of our eyes.
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