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Post by Jazzman on Nov 14, 2009 1:56:40 GMT -5
This is just a question I want to throw out there: Day One is the only day that can end with a vote of No Lynch; do you think that voting "No Lynch" is in the best interest of the town or not? I guess since jagilki and Jazzman are at the heart of the current suspicion back-and-forth talk, I'd be most interested to hear both of them respond. But it'd probably be in all of the town's interest to hear everyone else's opinion too. Honestly Peg, I really wouldn't like a No Lynch vote and here's why. Votes on Day One cna be used to see how people react when they go under pressure, some crack, some let it slide, and some fall somewhere in between. A No Lynch vote shows that people have one of two things... 1) They really have no reads on anyone and have no clue what to do. or 2) They plan on being passive players throughout the whole game and don't care either way, which is very dangerous. Now, I know that it seems like I'm the one leading the bandwagon here, and in truth, maybe I am, but I'm also noticing something in Jag. The longer this goes on the most inclined I am to think he's a townie. The last few games I've been inclined to follow my guy, a 'wallflower townie' if you will. In this new game I want to a townie who is in the action. I want my voice to be heard, and if accusations and theories are the way for it to happen so be it. I will not stand idly by and let the mafia pick us all off. Conversation is what keeps this game going, and so far, I think I've been a good part of it.
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Post by ritt works hard fo da chickens on Nov 14, 2009 1:59:06 GMT -5
Catching up from where I left off I still think Al Bundy makes some very good points. Jag has seemed way over confident. However, if Jag really was mafia I don't think he'd make himself the center of attention this badly. I mean EVERYONE is starting to look his way and as a mafia member that's just not smart is it? Maybe a fellow mafia member was named earlier, and he's trying to get the heat off of him? Or maybe, we are all being smoked and mirrored and we are missing something greater that is going on right in front of our eyes. I have never seen the logic in playing the martyr when you don't have to. And at this early a stage in the game playing the martyr now wouldn't be very helpfull at all to the mafia. It would just be easier to try to draw the heat to someone else by pointing out a suspicous behaviour and playing it up as sounding scummy. With no votes even cast and only the loosest of accusations tossed out it would be beyond pessimistic to think he would need to be a martyr at this stage and take a dive to protect another mafia.
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Post by psychotix5000 on Nov 14, 2009 2:15:40 GMT -5
Huge fos @ Jonathan Michaels for the drive by vote on jag with no explanation why. I want a reason for that vote. Maybe more when i get home (on my cell and about to head home from work)
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Post by Jonathan Michaels on Nov 14, 2009 2:55:14 GMT -5
It's simple.
There's too much infofmation to support a vote for him and not enough for anyone else.
And we can't just sit here and be passive, we have to show just a little initiative.
And for the record, I will only say this once.
I am town, and I have no other powers or agenda.
I am simply not one to share too much information this early due to having so little idea as to who is who.
I hope this is sufficient.
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Post by Tea & Crumpets on Nov 14, 2009 9:42:55 GMT -5
Jag is acting very suspicious but #1 on my list is still ritt. He just seemed too eager to defend himself early on, and now he appears to be trying to avoid a lynch on jagilki. Maybe jag's a mafia buddy, maybe not. Either way I'm sticking with my strongest feelings.
Vote: ritt
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Post by Brandon Walsh is Insane. on Nov 14, 2009 16:50:30 GMT -5
This is just a question I want to throw out there: Day One is the only day that can end with a vote of No Lynch; do you think that voting "No Lynch" is in the best interest of the town or not? I guess since jagilki and Jazzman are at the heart of the current suspicion back-and-forth talk, I'd be most interested to hear both of them respond. But it'd probably be in all of the town's interest to hear everyone else's opinion too. Honestly Peg, I really wouldn't like a No Lynch vote and here's why. Votes on Day One cna be used to see how people react when they go under pressure, some crack, some let it slide, and some fall somewhere in between. A No Lynch vote shows that people have one of two things... 1) They really have no reads on anyone and have no clue what to do. or 2) They plan on being passive players throughout the whole game and don't care either way, which is very dangerous. Now, I know that it seems like I'm the one leading the bandwagon here, and in truth, maybe I am, but I'm also noticing something in Jag. The longer this goes on the most inclined I am to think he's a townie. The last few games I've been inclined to follow my guy, a 'wallflower townie' if you will. In this new game I want to a townie who is in the action. I want my voice to be heard, and if accusations and theories are the way for it to happen so be it. I will not stand idly by and let the mafia pick us all off. Conversation is what keeps this game going, and so far, I think I've been a good part of it. You've confused me. I think Jag and Jazzman might not be town, but then again, might not be mafia. Their interaction is TOO out in the open though; which also makes me think they may be town. At the same time, I would like to say... FOS: ritt and Mr Emoticon Man.Mr Emoticon Man for vehemently going out on a limb to defend Jagilki, which doesn't make sense to me, and ritt for being too defensive from the getgo. We are all in the same boat -- trying to kill mafia. When someone goes out of their way to defend themselves in even joking accusations, that throws a red flag up to me.
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Post by Mr. Emoticon Man, TF Fan on Nov 14, 2009 17:26:53 GMT -5
Vehemently? Putting forth a single logical thought is "vehemently" defending someone? Yowza. That word sure has changed since I first learned of it.
Still... your post has given me another thought, and I'll address it in a moment, since I need to do a bit of diggin' first...
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Post by ritt works hard fo da chickens on Nov 14, 2009 17:35:29 GMT -5
I did not know you could be too defensive. And I spent more effort not defending myself but defending against an early bandwagon that was not on my as I think bandwagons this early are way to helpful to the mafia. Odds are good we are going to lynch our own, if people bandwagon early it reduces discussion and helps the mafia to hide in the crowd. I always try to throw out other possibilities and alternatives, because who knows what might stir a mafia into a misstep? I would rather be the person playing devils advocate than the sheep lead to the slaughter. If that makes me suspicious then so be it, I believe that is more helpfull than just being passive or posting to let people know I am posting.
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Post by Mr. Emoticon Man, TF Fan on Nov 14, 2009 17:47:40 GMT -5
And now that I've done my digging...
Latino, as Sorceress commented earlier, you seem quite lynch happy. More than that, you seem to throw suspicion on everyone you can for what, to me, are quite frivolous and jumpy reasons.
Bundy requests activity, you say he could be Mafia trying to get people to slip up.
I put forth a single logical thought on a situation, and you jump at the chance to say I could (or could not) be Mafia, and then backtrack later to give me a FoS when the original comment remains the only "defense" I've provided for jag.
Jazzman comments that he doesn't like No Lynches; and though you yourself seem to favor the idea of lynching someone, you still comment that he might (or might not) be Mafia.
You claim the same "might or might not" sort of suspicion on jag.
And then ritt gets a FoS simply for being too defensive when he mostly seems concerned with us thinking things through.
In short, you seem to be practically jumping at the chance to accuse anyone and everyone of being suspicious. And while I don't quite think you're Mafia (you could just be a jittery Townie), I do think you're showing yourself to be a bit trigger happy, and that's not helpful. Particularly if half of your "you're suspicious!" comments come with a "...or not" caveat.
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Post by psychotix5000 on Nov 14, 2009 20:32:51 GMT -5
Mr. Emoticon Man brings up a valid point. I'll be keeping my eye on Latino.
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Post by ritt works hard fo da chickens on Nov 14, 2009 20:35:53 GMT -5
Wait I get it. Latino Meat is starting the next Wrestlecrap mafia game early, and his role is Rajah (a reporter).
This post may or may not have been in jest please check back for further updates and live RAW updates this Wednesday.
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Post by pegasuswarrior on Nov 14, 2009 21:50:52 GMT -5
Wait I get it. Latino Meat is starting the next Wrestlecrap mafia game early, and his role is Rajah (a reporter). This post may or may not have been in jest please check back for further updates and live RAW updates this Wednesday. ****Click Here to see which former WWE diva is in talks with Playboy. Also who will guest host RAW from Scranton revealed**** That's pretty freaking funny. I laughed. I'm also going to say I did a little bit of retraction after the laugh. I'm only saying this because ritt's seeming a bit fidgety with this latest post as if humor's going to take some heat off. Of course, that's probably overanalysis. I'm not saying I fully suspect ritt. And by no means do I want to push a bandwagon at this point. It's just an observation, because I know I used random humor at one point in another game. (And I was no good to either side at that time.) Still though, pretty funny post. Thanks for that.
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Post by OblivionSorceress on Nov 14, 2009 23:07:28 GMT -5
And now that I've done my digging... Latino, as Sorceress commented earlier, you seem quite lynch happy. More than that, you seem to throw suspicion on everyone you can for what, to me, are quite frivolous and jumpy reasons. Bundy requests activity, you say he could be Mafia trying to get people to slip up. I put forth a single logical thought on a situation, and you jump at the chance to say I could (or could not) be Mafia, and then backtrack later to give me a FoS when the original comment remains the only "defense" I've provided for jag. Jazzman comments that he doesn't like No Lynches; and though you yourself seem to favor the idea of lynching someone, you still comment that he might (or might not) be Mafia. You claim the same "might or might not" sort of suspicion on jag. And then ritt gets a FoS simply for being too defensive when he mostly seems concerned with us thinking things through. In short, you seem to be practically jumping at the chance to accuse anyone and everyone of being suspicious. And while I don't quite think you're Mafia (you could just be a jittery Townie), I do think you're showing yourself to be a bit trigger happy, and that's not helpful. Particularly if half of your "you're suspicious!" comments come with a "...or not" caveat. I needed that, thanks. I was beginning to wonder if people were paying attention to my posts. I really want to help and put my thoughts out there you know. I agree with your analysis of Latino. He seems trigger happy but doesn't give me the vibe of a mafia member but that of a jittery townie. The reason why I say this is because it doesn't appear that he has any particular strategy at who to target (not that I see anyway). Hmmm, well maybe he doesn't need a strategy because he is mafia and knows the other mafia members. So he wouldn't really need much of a strategy except to not direct attention to fellow mafia members. (Sorry if I confused people I'm writing my thoughts as I type them; that way I don't lose them.) I'm not sure what is going on with Latino; I need more time to think about it really but those are some thoughts for everyone.
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Post by Ravishing One on Nov 15, 2009 1:06:25 GMT -5
And now that I've done my digging... Latino, as Sorceress commented earlier, you seem quite lynch happy. More than that, you seem to throw suspicion on everyone you can for what, to me, are quite frivolous and jumpy reasons. Bundy requests activity, you say he could be Mafia trying to get people to slip up. I put forth a single logical thought on a situation, and you jump at the chance to say I could (or could not) be Mafia, and then backtrack later to give me a FoS when the original comment remains the only "defense" I've provided for jag. Jazzman comments that he doesn't like No Lynches; and though you yourself seem to favor the idea of lynching someone, you still comment that he might (or might not) be Mafia. You claim the same "might or might not" sort of suspicion on jag. And then ritt gets a FoS simply for being too defensive when he mostly seems concerned with us thinking things through. In short, you seem to be practically jumping at the chance to accuse anyone and everyone of being suspicious. And while I don't quite think you're Mafia (you could just be a jittery Townie), I do think you're showing yourself to be a bit trigger happy, and that's not helpful. Particularly if half of your "you're suspicious!" comments come with a "...or not" caveat. I needed that, thanks. I was beginning to wonder if people were paying attention to my posts. I really want to help and put my thoughts out there you know. I agree with your analysis of Latino. He seems trigger happy but doesn't give me the vibe of a mafia member but that of a jittery townie. The reason why I say this is because it doesn't appear that he has any particular strategy at who to target (not that I see anyway). Hmmm, well maybe he doesn't need a strategy because he is mafia and knows the other mafia members. So he wouldn't really need much of a strategy except to not direct attention to fellow mafia members. (Sorry if I confused people I'm writing my thoughts as I type them; that way I don't lose them.) I'm not sure what is going on with Latino; I need more time to think about it really but those are some thoughts for everyone. These posts have twisted my opinion on Latino. He seemed trigger happy at first, but Oblivion's post has drawn in my suspicion a little. I still FoS on Latino, for now, with the hopes that someone does something to untwist me.
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Post by ritt works hard fo da chickens on Nov 15, 2009 8:23:33 GMT -5
That's pretty freaking funny. I laughed. I'm also going to say I did a little bit of retraction after the laugh. I'm only saying this because ritt's seeming a bit fidgety with this latest post as if humor's going to take some heat off. Of course, that's probably overanalysis. I'm not saying I fully suspect ritt. And by no means do I want to push a bandwagon at this point. It's just an observation, because I know I used random humor at one point in another game. (And I was no good to either side at that time.) Still though, pretty funny post. Thanks for that. Nah I am not worried about heat on me. I posted my defense and seeing Emoticons post I know that at least one other person knows what I was trying to do with trying to draw more discussion out. This early in the game with such a full roster its expected different peoples names pop up a lot. I don't feel like there is any more significant heat on myself then some of the other players, even with Tea's vote for me. I read his reasons and disagreed with them. With a deadline still three days away I would hope to believe we can get something better then the reasonings we are getting for the votes we have gotten. I think suspicion is good at this stage I just don't want people to put on blinders and miss other things going on outside there own suspicions.
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Post by ritt works hard fo da chickens on Nov 15, 2009 9:09:03 GMT -5
EBWOP
And the purpose of the joke post was after reading Emoticon's post pointing out all the might or not assesments by Latino it reminded me of the posts that appear on here quoting Rajah. That's all. I thought it and wanted to share the laugh.
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Post by ♥ Bunnyslinger ♥ on Nov 15, 2009 10:36:28 GMT -5
sorry for not posting in a while guys, been crazy busy at home. my current list of suspects is
Jagilki mr emoticon man ritt
I don't like it when people get overly defensive in this game,more so when they defend someone else, maybe I'm just paranoid but I find it scummy.
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Post by Mr. Emoticon Man, TF Fan on Nov 15, 2009 10:41:45 GMT -5
There's something scummy in trying to help the town make more informed lynches? Huh... that's a new one.
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Post by Brandon Walsh is Insane. on Nov 15, 2009 11:58:38 GMT -5
Wait I get it. Latino Meat is starting the next Wrestlecrap mafia game early, and his role is Rajah (a reporter). This post may or may not have been in jest please check back for further updates and live RAW updates this Wednesday. ****Click Here to see which former WWE diva is in talks with Playboy. Also who will guest host RAW from Scranton revealed**** Ok, that was pretty funny. And guys, seriously, this first day the town basically needs to lynch, since there are so many of us, hopefully a lynch is able to take out a mafia member. We cannot go with a No Lynch on the first day, as that gives up the advantage that we have a the moment. And my 'jumping to the chance to lynch' thing is more because we've already used the mob mentality that I was joking about in my very first or second post, which was a joke... and I think it's pretty interesting. Everyone is pointing fingers... and I get it. There's just nothing clear cut this far except for suspicion, and none of us know why people are posting the way they are. It's a confusing day, and I don't know who to believe.
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Post by Tea & Crumpets on Nov 15, 2009 15:50:26 GMT -5
I'm always wary about the necesseity to lynch, as the chances of hitting right are so low. It's why I'm reluctant to join the bandwagon on jag, he's suspicious certainly but I can't vote until I've heard out a bit more, new, information.
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