Ted Jr.

[Kevin Hamilton]

Oct 8, 2009 14:34:33 GMT -5 thuschongswing said:

Oct 8, 2009 14:05:54 GMT -5 Steveweiser said:

I saw Ted put on a great match with Batista on SmackDown, and not many people have great matches with Batista. I like Ted's workrate, but I think he needs a defined character.

The way I see it, they're pushing him thinking he's the next Rock, who started off (surprise!) JUST like Ted, a third-generation blue chipper with little character that started to get a lot of legit hatred from crowds (that hasn't happened with Ted yet, and Rocky was a face, unlike Ted). Just as the WWF was about to give up on him, all of a sudden, he exploded with hidden charisma. In a way, it was like the WWF went digging for gold on the beach, failed, got laughed at by the passersby, and threw down their shovel in disgust...only to discover, at the last minute, that they had accidentally came across a vein of platinum instead. Not only was it a surprise, it was downright miraculous.

Dig this analogy

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See, I think he is 100x's better than Rhodes. He is worlds better in the ring and when he gets the chance to speak and be serious, he does better than anyone gives him credit for. Rhodes isn't bad but, I just don't see this megastar that others seem too.

[AriadosMan]

I don't get why WWE breaks up every tag team when they start to get remotely over. Expecting to always get an HBK out of the deal is ridiculous.

[Deleted]

i hope they stay together but go onto singles feuds soon.

i believe Rhodes is the better promo man but Ted has the ability to look more evil and ruthless which is why i believe he'll make the better heel. i also think he's the better in-ring out of the two

[Bubble Lead]

Oct 8, 2009 17:10:22 GMT -5 @jinxed said:

See, I think he is 100x's better than Rhodes. He is worlds better in the ring and when he gets the chance to speak and be serious, he does better than anyone gives him credit for. Rhodes isn't bad but, I just don't see this megastar that others seem too.

Eh, I am not saying Cody is going to be a megastar. Just that, at this point in time I see more potential in him than I do with Ted. Either of them could break out though as they both have skill and could easily develop a character and become comfortable on the mic. It is more on the booking team to push them the right way and utilize them correctly.

There are guys on the roster who right now are more skilled in the ring and at least as good on the mic as Cody and Ted, such as Charlie Haas or Paul Burchill. Yet, they do not have the booking team behind them. Just as Legacy, if these guys were given interesting things to do and booked properly they could do well.

Another example of this would be Val Venis. Charisma and ring ability plus the sort of look WWE likes, but since the booking team never got behind him he wasnt as successful as he could have been.

Its more on WWE Creative to book guys to their strengths and push them properly. Potential and ability can only take you so far if you arent presented to the fans the right way, especially in WWE.

[Tom Selleck]

I would love to see Ted Jr make a facial expression someday. It would be a nice change of pace for him. Any expression will do, just to show the world he is more then a blank stare.

[Confused Mark Wahlberg]

When I think of Ted, I think of:


"Your neutralness, it's a beige alert"

[wrestlecrapcrap]

Oct 8, 2009 17:40:41 GMT -5 Bubble Lead said:

Oct 8, 2009 17:10:22 GMT -5 @jinxed said:

See, I think he is 100x's better than Rhodes. He is worlds better in the ring and when he gets the chance to speak and be serious, he does better than anyone gives him credit for. Rhodes isn't bad but, I just don't see this megastar that others seem too.

Eh, I am not saying Cody is going to be a megastar. Just that, at this point in time I see more potential in him than I do with Ted. Either of them could break out though as they both have skill and could easily develop a character and become comfortable on the mic. It is more on the booking team to push them the right way and utilize them correctly.

There are guys on the roster who right now are more skilled in the ring and at least as good on the mic as Cody and Ted, such as Charlie Haas or Paul Burchill. Yet, they do not have the booking team behind them. Just as Legacy, if these guys were given interesting things to do and booked properly they could do well.

Another example of this would be Val Venis. Charisma and ring ability plus the sort of look WWE likes, but since the booking team never got behind him he wasnt as successful as he could have been.

Its more on WWE Creative to book guys to their strengths and push them properly. Potential and ability can only take you so far if you arent presented to the fans the right way, especially in WWE.

Cody Rhodes is years ahead of both Paul Burchill, Charlie Haas, Val Venis, and pretty much 90% of the WWE roster. He's a downright natural on the stick.

I think people are far too harsh on two guys that have only been in the company just over one and two years respectively. They haven't got some crazy gimmick, but that doesn't mean they 'lack charisma'. The aim of what they are doing with Cody Rhodes and Ted Dibiase is to make the crowd hate them simply for being Cody Rhodes and Ted Dibiase. If they can develop into their personas natural heel traits, without needing crazy gimmicks, they will go very far.

And there's a reason respected people in the industry, like JR, call Cody and Ted future Wrestlemania main eventers. They know what they are talking about.

[rrm15]

-Ted is pretty good in the ring, but bland at everything else.

-Cody is also pretty good in the ring, and is charismatic to boot.

Cody is wayyyy better.

[manstis1804]

I think Cody is much better on every level. Cody is a natural while Ted is pretending. He's good in the ring but not good enough for it to be his entire gimmick.

[Bubble Lead]

Oct 8, 2009 18:33:49 GMT -5 wrestlecrapcrap said:

Oct 8, 2009 17:40:41 GMT -5 Bubble Lead said:

Eh, I am not saying Cody is going to be a megastar. Just that, at this point in time I see more potential in him than I do with Ted. Either of them could break out though as they both have skill and could easily develop a character and become comfortable on the mic. It is more on the booking team to push them the right way and utilize them correctly.

There are guys on the roster who right now are more skilled in the ring and at least as good on the mic as Cody and Ted, such as Charlie Haas or Paul Burchill. Yet, they do not have the booking team behind them. Just as Legacy, if these guys were given interesting things to do and booked properly they could do well.

Another example of this would be Val Venis. Charisma and ring ability plus the sort of look WWE likes, but since the booking team never got behind him he wasnt as successful as he could have been.

Its more on WWE Creative to book guys to their strengths and push them properly. Potential and ability can only take you so far if you arent presented to the fans the right way, especially in WWE.

Cody Rhodes is years ahead of both Paul Burchill, Charlie Haas, Val Venis, and pretty much 90% of the WWE roster. He's a downright natural on the stick.

I think people are far too harsh on two guys that have only been in the company just over one and two years respectively. They haven't got some crazy gimmick, but that doesn't mean they 'lack charisma'. The aim of what they are doing with Cody Rhodes and Ted Dibiase is to make the crowd hate them simply for being Cody Rhodes and Ted Dibiase. If they can develop into their personas natural heel traits, without needing crazy gimmicks, they will go very far.

And there's a reason respected people in the industry, like JR, call Cody and Ted future Wrestlemania main eventers. They know what they are talking about.

Can you name me one great promo Cody has done? Enough to facilitate the belief that he is years ahead of almost everyone on the roster? Talk about hyperbole. I like Cody, but that is taking it way too far.

When Cody dishes out a great promo I will agree. So far, no. I suppose it highlights how far pro wrestling has fallen when people are considering Cody Rhodes as a great promo man.

[Captain Charisma]

Ted's a bore. This kid is your typical early 90's WWE jobber who just so happens to have a famous name.

Cody Rhodes has some swagger and can talk. The problem is, he's about 5'8" and 170 pounds.

If you could combine them into one performer, you'd have a solid midcarder. As it stands now, you've got two guys who should be working F.C.W. as two of the biggest players on RAW. That would be a big part of why RAW sucks so much.

[BorneAgain]

To me watching Raw, with Cody and Ted in the main event, and guys like Miz and Swagger in the mid-card just has me thinking, would the former two be anywhere near they were if their names
weren't Rhodes and DiBiase?

[Haulk]

Seeing how effective Ted was just last Sunday I am not going to bash a rapidly improving superstar. I like his ring work too.

[nate5054]

Oct 8, 2009 13:54:02 GMT -5 ginohernandez said:

There is one thing I am really sick of and that is this constant yapping about this cardboard cutouts face turn and people talking about it like it's going to save the company. HAs anyone paid attention to this guy? There is zero charisma there. The only time he showed any charisma whatsoever was when he was playing off his dad, who btw still oozes charisma to this day. They guy is bland as burnt toast or vanilla pudding and for the love of god stop touting a face turn that 1) Is not going to happen, 2) not going to suddenly get people buzzing about WWE, and 3) if it does happen will make him duller than he is now. If that is even possible.

Agree 100%. The man is a black hole of charisma vacuums. On the other hand, at least if he's a face he will just join the long line of lame faces the WWE has.

[nate5054]

Oct 8, 2009 14:02:12 GMT -5 Prince Petty said:

If one of Legacy is to turn face and get pushed, it surely has to be Cody. He's actually capable of getting a reaction from a crowd.

The sad thing is I'm not all that impressed with Cody's abilities, but he is 1,000% better than Ted on just about everything I can think of.

[nate5054]

Oct 8, 2009 15:01:22 GMT -5 VengeanceGOD said:

"Why don't people agree with me?"

It seems a lot of people do agree with him.

To be fair, I didn't think much of Orton either and he gradually rose to a pretty damn good level. So I guess it's possible with Ted.

[Mozenrath]

Oct 8, 2009 19:35:36 GMT -5 Haulk said:

Seeing how effective Ted was just last Sunday I am not going to bash a rapidly improving superstar. I like his ring work too.

He really did do quite well on Sunday. I loved his smart ass treatment of Triple H, and I loved how he broke up the initial edge D-X had in the brawl with the high flying move. That Suplex on the mats Triple H took from him looked painful as hell.

[The Deadly Snake]

Oct 8, 2009 17:40:41 GMT -5 Bubble Lead said:

Oct 8, 2009 17:10:22 GMT -5 @jinxed said:

See, I think he is 100x's better than Rhodes. He is worlds better in the ring and when he gets the chance to speak and be serious, he does better than anyone gives him credit for. Rhodes isn't bad but, I just don't see this megastar that others seem too.

Eh, I am not saying Cody is going to be a megastar. Just that, at this point in time I see more potential in him than I do with Ted. Either of them could break out though as they both have skill and could easily develop a character and become comfortable on the mic. It is more on the booking team to push them the right way and utilize them correctly.

There are guys on the roster who right now are more skilled in the ring and at least as good on the mic as Cody and Ted, such as Charlie Haas or Paul Burchill. Yet, they do not have the booking team behind them. Just as Legacy, if these guys were given interesting things to do and booked properly they could do well.

Another example of this would be Val Venis. Charisma and ring ability plus the sort of look WWE likes, but since the booking team never got behind him he wasnt as successful as he could have been.

Its more on WWE Creative to book guys to their strengths and push them properly. Potential and ability can only take you so far if you arent presented to the fans the right way, especially in WWE.

Val Venis was saddled by a poor gimmick. Just, he played the gimmick to perfection. But it was still a crappy gimmick.

[Urethra Franklin]

Oct 8, 2009 19:40:10 GMT -5 nate5054 said:

Oct 8, 2009 13:54:02 GMT -5 ginohernandez said:

There is one thing I am really sick of and that is this constant yapping about this cardboard cutouts face turn and people talking about it like it's going to save the company. HAs anyone paid attention to this guy? There is zero charisma there. The only time he showed any charisma whatsoever was when he was playing off his dad, who btw still oozes charisma to this day. They guy is bland as burnt toast or vanilla pudding and for the love of god stop touting a face turn that 1) Is not going to happen, 2) not going to suddenly get people buzzing about WWE, and 3) if it does happen will make him duller than he is now. If that is even possible.

Agree 100%. The man is a black hole of charisma vacuums. On the other hand, at least if he's a face he will just join the long line of lame faces the WWE has.

To play devil's advocate (and not that I don't agree with a lot of the criticisms being thrown Teddy's way), but I get the impression that his lackadaisical manner and promo style is an attempt to get over his character as quietly cocky. I think it works to some extent, but I think he's just a little bit too subtle with it.