Ted Jr.

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Oct 8, 2009 17:40:41 GMT -5 Bubble Lead said:

Oct 8, 2009 17:10:22 GMT -5 @jinxed said:

See, I think he is 100x's better than Rhodes. He is worlds better in the ring and when he gets the chance to speak and be serious, he does better than anyone gives him credit for. Rhodes isn't bad but, I just don't see this megastar that others seem too.

Eh, I am not saying Cody is going to be a megastar. Just that, at this point in time I see more potential in him than I do with Ted. Either of them could break out though as they both have skill and could easily develop a character and become comfortable on the mic. It is more on the booking team to push them the right way and utilize them correctly.

There are guys on the roster who right now are more skilled in the ring and at least as good on the mic as Cody and Ted, such as Charlie Haas or Paul Burchill. Yet, they do not have the booking team behind them. Just as Legacy, if these guys were given interesting things to do and booked properly they could do well.

Another example of this would be Val Venis. Charisma and ring ability plus the sort of look WWE likes, but since the booking team never got behind him he wasnt as successful as he could have been.

Its more on WWE Creative to book guys to their strengths and push them properly. Potential and ability can only take you so far if you arent presented to the fans the right way, especially in WWE.

Nah, I agree with you on guys like Charlie Haas and Burchill. Haas is one of my favorites in WWE and, if creative tried (not a 2 week stop and start as they usually do) they could be solid stars for them.

I guess given my love for UWF styled stuff, Ted seems to have that look and style that appeals to me more than Cody. Cody has a great knack for speaking as evidenced by his HOF speech but, in the ring shows me nothing.

[TheJaredAnderson]

Oct 8, 2009 13:59:03 GMT -5 @tagteamspecialist said:

I liked Hardcore Holly more than both of them

that hurts more

[AriadosMan]

Haas had more charisma in his "imitation" gimmick than Ted Jr. has had in his entire run so far.

[celticjobber]

To me, Cody doesn't "look" like a star. Ted does.

And Ted really hasn't had enough mic time for me to really say if he's got potential to be a good talker or not. Cody usually gets most of the mic time, but his voice makes it hard for me to take him seriously as a heel.

[wrestlecrapcrap]

Oct 8, 2009 18:48:06 GMT -5 Bubble Lead said:

Oct 8, 2009 18:33:49 GMT -5 wrestlecrapcrap said:

Cody Rhodes is years ahead of both Paul Burchill, Charlie Haas, Val Venis, and pretty much 90% of the WWE roster. He's a downright natural on the stick.

I think people are far too harsh on two guys that have only been in the company just over one and two years respectively. They haven't got some crazy gimmick, but that doesn't mean they 'lack charisma'. The aim of what they are doing with Cody Rhodes and Ted Dibiase is to make the crowd hate them simply for being Cody Rhodes and Ted Dibiase. If they can develop into their personas natural heel traits, without needing crazy gimmicks, they will go very far.

And there's a reason respected people in the industry, like JR, call Cody and Ted future Wrestlemania main eventers. They know what they are talking about.

Can you name me one great promo Cody has done? Enough to facilitate the belief that he is years ahead of almost everyone on the roster? Talk about hyperbole. I like Cody, but that is taking it way too far.

When Cody dishes out a great promo I will agree. So far, no. I suppose it highlights how far pro wrestling has fallen when people are considering Cody Rhodes as a great promo man.

Everytime Cody speaks you can tell he has the skills in that department.

He shouldn't be giving 'great' promos in his position on the card, because he shouldn't be overshadowing the main eventers. Therefore they haven't given him the oppurtunity to do that yet. However everytime he speaks, his delivery is so natural, his expressions so bang on, his emphasis so perfect, that you can tell that he is excellent in the area, and when they do give him the opportunity to deliver the great promos on the card, he will do them without question.

Note I'm not saying the same with Ted, because that's not where Ted's strengths lie. He is great at psychology in the ring, but he isn't as natural a speaker as Cody. Not to say that he is bad by any means, but Cody is better there.

[The Ichi]

Cody's somewhat of a good talker, but he just doesn't look intimidating enough. Ted can have good matches, but he's as bland as it gets. The standards really have dropped if either man is considered main-event material, IMO.

[BayleyTiffyCodyCenaJudyHopps]

I'm not a fan of him so far. Much, much prefer Cody.