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Post by Prince Petty on Oct 12, 2009 16:03:04 GMT -5
If only the WWE had something like the Varsity Club. He'd fit right in, there.
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Post by Bubble Lead on Oct 12, 2009 16:06:09 GMT -5
If only the WWE had something like the Varsity Club. He'd fit right in, there. Actually now that I think about it, it would be a pretty good idea to get another Varsity Club going. Bring in Nowinski to be the mouthpiece, then pair Swagger up with a good wrestler who isn't doing anything like Haas and you have another instant good team to throw into the burgeoning WWE tag scene. That would help both of them get over, developing characters and credibility without having to talk much or be stuck jobbing in the midcard. |
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Post by Dynamite Kid on Oct 12, 2009 16:24:57 GMT -5
-His lisp, I know it's not a huge deal, but it does mke his promos considerably less intimidating. I don't know if anyone mentioned this already, but this didn't stop either Dusty Rhodes or Ric Flair, two greats in the sport. |
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Post by Krimzon on Oct 12, 2009 16:28:21 GMT -5
-His lisp, I know it's not a huge deal, but it does mke his promos considerably less intimidating. I don't know if anyone mentioned this already, but this didn't stop either Dusty Rhodes or Ric Flair, two greats in the sport. Key difference: charisma. |
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Post by Dynamite Kid on Oct 12, 2009 16:43:22 GMT -5
That's irrelevant to that point. The point was 'he has a lisp and so sucks.' A lisp does not mean you can't be a great promo guy.
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Post by Cretinous Humanoid on Oct 12, 2009 21:50:08 GMT -5
He looks like a big dumb jock. They really need to use that.
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Post by Kevin's Thorn on Oct 12, 2009 22:44:24 GMT -5
He's really wasted on RAW. He needs to move to Smackdown for 3 important reasons: 1) He's an Oklahoma alum, like J.R., and you KNOW J.R. will put the kid over like no other in matches-- even more than J.R.'s eternal hardon for Dolph Ziggler. 2) Better midcard on SD + more emphasis on technical wrestling = better arena for Swagger to impress the crowd. 3) He'd definitely benefit from the canned heat/pops they utilize on the taped show, the quiet crowds are killing his run on RAW. Right now, both the Miz and Chavo are getting 10x the heel heat as Swagger's best reaction-- that ain't good for his future endeavors. Maybe he could lose the monkey dancing in his intro. But for the love of god, keep this:  |
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Post by Stotty on Oct 12, 2009 22:49:16 GMT -5
That's irrelevant to that point. The point was 'he has a lisp and so sucks.' A lisp does not mean you can't be a great promo guy. I probably should have elaborated on the lisp thing. Dusty Rhodes had a lisp, but it workedperfectly with his 'working man's rap', and also kinda fit into his (quite feminine) persona. Swagger is just a jock with a lisp, it's like a guy talking tough withhis fly down. And Flair's lisp wasn't nearly as obvious as Swagger's, Flair's never distracted me during a promo, Swagger's does. Which brings up another point. Swagger's constantly stuck in first, he doesn't appear to have a second gear. He brings no intensity or extra level to his matches or promos |
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Post by H-Fist on Oct 12, 2009 22:54:32 GMT -5
That's irrelevant to that point. The point was 'he has a lisp and so sucks.' A lisp does not mean you can't be a great promo guy. I probably should have elaborated on the lisp thing. Dusty Rhodes had a lisp, but it workedperfectly with his 'working man's rap', and also kinda fit into his (quite feminine) persona. Swagger is just a jock with a lisp, it's like a guy talking tough withhis fly down. And Flair's lisp wasn't nearly as obvious as Swagger's, Flair's never distracted me during a promo, Swagger's does. Which brings up another point. Swagger's constantly stuck in first, he doesn't appear to have a second gear. He brings no intensity or extra level to his matches or promos  I posted this last night, but it got caught on the bottom of page one. This is Naitch, the Dream, and Captain Redneck in 1973. That hardly looks like the man who was stylin' and profilin' on his 58th birthday. Hardly looks like the man whose entire existence made Ricky Steamboat sick. Hardly looks like the man who took the name from Buddy Rogers. So it is much too early to make the call on him. |
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Post by Allie Kitsune on Oct 12, 2009 22:58:34 GMT -5
At this point, Swagger just seems like a guy with Gorilla-esque Mannerisms (maybe he should start throwing barrels at opponents?) and a goofy voice/grin.
He's too big (size-wise) to be as big of a goof as his on-screen persona is. ESPECIALLY if they're not going to run with it. I can't buy him as a badass, because he just comes off as too much of an immature goofball. But at the same time, he's not ENOUGH of an immature goofball for me to appreciate that aspect of him.
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