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Post by Fade on Oct 17, 2009 18:59:53 GMT -5
It's so weird how these two are two of the brightest young prospects in WWE today and they each make up for the others lacking-area.
I enjoyed the promo, but Johns struggle with Mic Skills will be a continuing battle. He has everything going for him but that.
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Post by Big DSR Energy on Oct 17, 2009 19:13:29 GMT -5
I wanted to come on to these forums and post SOMETHING along the lines that I hope Miz and Morrison continue to feud off and on over the course of their careers, and "make" each other a la Rock/Austin. I'm glad to see that others share this idea. Both guys are so good in their individual roles (though I prefer the Miz a tiny bit). I dunno, I'm just really excited for both of them. Although, considering how much they ripped Marty Jannety, I wouldn't mind him showing up at the PPV and laying them both out, making the match a draw.
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Post by Bubble Lead on Oct 17, 2009 19:13:27 GMT -5
It's so weird how these two are two of the brightest young prospects in WWE today and they each make up for the others lacking-area. I enjoyed the promo, but Johns struggle with Mic Skills will be a continuing battle. He has everything going for him but that. I do not understand this popular opinion lately that Morrison has poor mic skills. Listening to people on here, you would think he is as bad as Shelton Benjamin circa 2004. Seriously, the guy is NOT that bad on the mic. In fact, I would say he is GOOD on the mic. He always sounds comfortable and is actually, well, entertaining the majority of the time. It makes me shake my head when I see people saying Morrison is poor on the mic yet I will see people posting that someone like Cody Rhodes, who has NEVER said anything entertaining, is a natural on the stick. Sure, JM isn't the best actor, but aside from a few legendary guys like Jake Roberts, The Rock, Raven, Steve Austin etc. most wrestlers suffer from the same problem. Wrestlers sounding kinda fake or overacting their lines is something I have grown used to from watching the stuff for years, just like B movies.
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Post by Fade on Oct 17, 2009 19:24:50 GMT -5
It's so weird how these two are two of the brightest young prospects in WWE today and they each make up for the others lacking-area. I enjoyed the promo, but Johns struggle with Mic Skills will be a continuing battle. He has everything going for him but that. I do not understand this popular opinion lately that Morrison has poor mic skills. Listening to people on here, you would think he is as bad as Shelton Benjamin circa 2004. Seriously, the guy is NOT that bad on the mic. In fact, I would say he is GOOD on the mic. He always sounds comfortable and is actually, well, entertaining the majority of the time. It makes me shake my head when I see people saying Morrison is poor on the mic yet I will see people posting that someone like Cody Rhodes, who has NEVER said anything entertaining, is a natural on the stick. Sure, JM isn't the best actor, but aside from a few legendary guys like Jake Roberts, The Rock, Raven, Steve Austin etc. most wrestlers suffer from the same problem. Wrestlers sounding kinda fake or overacting their lines is something I have grown used to from watching the stuff for years, just like B movies. I wouldn't say he's as bad as Shelton, first of all. I will admit I do look at it from an acting-point-of-view and love it when guys sound natural as opposed to forced. The Rock, Raven, Austin, were all these elevated characters but they sounded invested and had objectives and point of view in delivering their lines and sounded relaxed and comfortable within that realm. It's like comparing bad-childrens-acting to good-childrens-acting. It's still silly, but it can still be performed in a way that comes off natural. And yes I would say Cody Rhodes is far better on the mic than Morrison in terms of delivery. Cody sounds natural. Sounds calm. Sounds relaxed. He's being as opposed to trying and forcefully show or project something in his delivery. What's helped Morrison is his character, that kind of makes his lines choppy and kind of stoic, so it works out.
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Post by corndog on Oct 18, 2009 2:42:58 GMT -5
I really enjoyed the promo between these two. It had a big match buildup feel to it, and it's nice to see the WWE letting these two shine and actually paying attention to lower singles champions. I definitely see both of these guys being in the main event scene soon, especially Morrison. I think Miz should win the match at the ppv mainly because he needs it more and the fued seems to be going that way with Morrison punking him out.
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Post by Nic Nemeth on Oct 18, 2009 2:49:18 GMT -5
The funny thing is, they now have the power to make Morrison being drafted to RAW or Miz drafted to SD a big deal because of the way they trash each other's brand.
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Post by Lt. Palumbo on Oct 18, 2009 8:08:04 GMT -5
Related note, MAN did they repeatedly bury poor ol Marty. Yeah, I've been making the Janetty joke for years and I marked when they first mentioned the "janetty factor" on the online dirtsheet, but god damn!! It's one thing acknowledging it online or tacitly acknowledging it, but to openly say it...repeatedly.......ouch!
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Post by Topher is Human on Oct 18, 2009 8:58:29 GMT -5
I actually viewed that as Miz's defining moment. He REALLY carried himself well there. Both these guys are going to be huge.
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Post by The OP on Oct 18, 2009 9:04:46 GMT -5
Meh..as usual with his promos, they always seem like he's reading directly from a script. Even here where he finally shows some emotion, it still seems like there is a cue card right in front of him. I just can't find him interesting. His character is just boring and his baby face routine doesn't match his persona..he should be a heel. I also think he needs a new look, I don't know what it is but he always looks too manufactured from the step/mcmahon factory of cookie cutter wrestling characters. I usually defend Morrison on this issue, but in that segment he did come off to me as a guy who was trying to be an actor.
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Post by Mac on Oct 18, 2009 9:30:54 GMT -5
When John Morrison acts all tough I think he's awful.. Stick to the "Eh whatever" mentallity and the guy is great.
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Post by Confused Mark Wahlberg on Oct 18, 2009 10:04:55 GMT -5
WOW did that segment go on forever.
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Post by dicegirl72 on Oct 18, 2009 10:20:40 GMT -5
I liked the segment, but my only teeny complaint is when they did the morph into Miz, I wish they had included an old-time "Sleestak" (sp?) from 'Land of the Lost'. His character looks like one (esp the hair) to me.
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Post by 4real on Oct 18, 2009 13:47:46 GMT -5
One problem with Morrison for me is the guy looks like a million bucks, good looking, long flowing hair. He has the look.
But the reality is he's a dork. And that really comes through on the mic. Don't know if anyone else thinks the same.
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Post by Danimal on Oct 18, 2009 14:17:05 GMT -5
What a truly awesome promo between them. My only issue is that Morrison is completely unintimidating when he's angry-sounding. Long as he's cocky, conceited and lofty, his promos are gold though. IMO his character should be more like the Rock's in that heel or face he's still a conceited dick. I think he's too much of a good guy now.
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Post by shamana on Oct 18, 2009 15:10:59 GMT -5
Yep, I don't think he'll do very well as a regular face. As a Rock-like character... he has potential.
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Post by baerrtt on Oct 19, 2009 5:17:41 GMT -5
Watching the promo, especially his crack about RAW, I'd say Morrison is by and large pretty much the same cocky character he was as a heel.
'A Rock-like character'? Dwayne had the mic skills to get away with that portrayal that John, whilst not terrible, doesn't really have. The way I see it the WWE gave both Miz and Jomo creative freedom on the mic and despite their high hopes for the latter the former is the best and most natural talker of the two.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 19, 2009 6:00:50 GMT -5
One problem with Morrison for me is the guy looks like a million bucks, good looking, long flowing hair. He has the look. But the reality is he's a dork. And that really comes through on the mic. Don't know if anyone else thinks the same. Precisely it, his promos aren't bad but they just give off that his own personality doesn't match up to his gimmick. It is at times like these when I wish managers still stuck about; give Morrison a Hollywood agent as a manager, it writes itself!
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Post by mainsupreme on Oct 19, 2009 6:26:45 GMT -5
The best part of the promo was Morrison trashing Raw. And he's right you know. Yeah Morrison could always do better on the stick, but like that ever stopped Jeff Hardy from becoming crazy over with the fans and mercandise stand. Prediction: Miz wins. He needs it more than the hot rocketing Morrison. I'm almost certain, because Michelle McCool will win the diva's match. And they must make it 1-1 before the big bragging rights 7 on 7 match.
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Post by carter 15 on Oct 19, 2009 6:57:21 GMT -5
I wish i could, but i just can't get past those mic skills. How anyone can say he has good mic skills is beyond me, i just think they're that terrible I'm so glad WWE seems to be behind both guys though, they're both improving in everything, and continue to become more popular. But damn, Morrison on the mic, ughhhh.
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Post by Tapout on Oct 19, 2009 12:10:41 GMT -5
One problem with Morrison for me is the guy looks like a million bucks, good looking, long flowing hair. He has the look. But the reality is he's a dork. And that really comes through on the mic. Don't know if anyone else thinks the same. It's what I was saying all year last year, actually. The promo segment was very forced on JoMo's end. Mike the Miz did a very good job on the stick. Creative gets props for not having the two actually start fighting right there, but rather, saving the conflict for the PPV. Though he's improved slightly, the only weak link was JoMo. And this is coming from a huge JoMo mark.
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