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Post by brettappedout (BLM) on Oct 26, 2009 13:31:47 GMT -5
I don't have a problem with this, though the blood did add to this match and I think really helped the Superman Cena character, because he didn't just overcome a beating, he overcame a bloody beating and got even more pissed off, like right after Orton punching him a few times (I think), Cena just snapped and went off, that was cool.
Also I thought them putting the glue on it was just a cool, real life/real fight moment.
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Post by manstis1804 on Oct 26, 2009 13:40:40 GMT -5
I hated that they cleaned him up as it happened because I thought it was planned. It was the right call though, Cena bleeding for 50 minutes could've been disastrous.
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Post by The Summer of Muskrat XVII on Oct 26, 2009 13:55:29 GMT -5
I didn't see the match, but I actually like the sound of the stopping the match thing. Gives it a legit competiton vibe. I like the idea too. If they use it once and a while, it could really add to the drama of the match. For MMA fans, I liken it to the ref getting the doctor to check on a bad cut to make sure the fighter can continue. Usually that leads to a tense moments while fans and fighters wait for the doctors okay. As long as they don't over do it, it could be a nice let spot once or twice a year |
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Post by Chainsaw on Oct 26, 2009 14:37:10 GMT -5
Pansies.
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Post by default on Oct 26, 2009 14:42:39 GMT -5
WWE should gimmick Jamie Noble as "GLUE MAN" and have him stand at ringside with a container of crazy glue on every show.
Then eventually Zack Ryder gets busted open and says "GLUE! GLUE! GLUE!" and then after patched up, he says "YOU KNOW IT!" [/Russo]
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Post by The Verdict on Oct 26, 2009 14:56:24 GMT -5
This whole report makes me want to break something...
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Post by Ringmaster on Oct 26, 2009 15:01:17 GMT -5
In related news this got world wide coverage in every syndicated paper, it was discussed at length during several very prominent talk shows, wwe's stocks dropped a steep 20 points as a result and parents everywhere have sworn off the entire wwe product for good. Or I'm being entirely sarcastic and Vince needs to stop being such a baby and grow up, and realize that *gasp*kids can handle seeing a wrestler bleed because *gasp again* wrestling can be dangerous and stuff like this happens. |
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Post by Solid Stryk-Dizzle on Oct 26, 2009 15:02:49 GMT -5
In related news this got world wide coverage in every syndicated paper, it was discussed at length during several very prominent talk shows, wwe's stocks dropped a steep 20 points as a result and parents everywhere have sworn off the entire wwe product for good. Or I'm being entirely sarcastic and Vince needs to stop being such a baby and grow up, and realize that *gasp*kids can handle seeing a wrestler bleed because *gasp again* wrestling can be dangerous and stuff like this happens. Yeah. Don't protect your wrestlers Vince. That's too PG! Let him bleed for 40 minutes! |
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Post by Ringmaster on Oct 26, 2009 15:23:57 GMT -5
In related news this got world wide coverage in every syndicated paper, it was discussed at length during several very prominent talk shows, wwe's stocks dropped a steep 20 points as a result and parents everywhere have sworn off the entire wwe product for good. Or I'm being entirely sarcastic and Vince needs to stop being such a baby and grow up, and realize that *gasp*kids can handle seeing a wrestler bleed because *gasp again* wrestling can be dangerous and stuff like this happens. Yeah. Don't protect your wrestlers Vince. That's too PG! Let him bleed for 40 minutes! Re read my post, i never said he shouldn't protect his guys but having a temper tantrum because someone bled is just....well....just childish. I'd like to segway a tad, when i was growing up watching wrestling, and when you heard there was say a cage,hardcore,brawl match or something similar you knew it was dangerous atmosphere and there was a good chance someone would bleed, when they did no one threw a hissyfit. And I'm not saying we need attitude era levels of blood,violence and sex, but for the ppv's making it just a slight edgier then your normal programing is not going to hurt anyone. |
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Post by Robbymac on Oct 26, 2009 15:27:06 GMT -5
In related news this got world wide coverage in every syndicated paper, it was discussed at length during several very prominent talk shows, wwe's stocks dropped a steep 20 points as a result and parents everywhere have sworn off the entire wwe product for good. Or I'm being entirely sarcastic and Vince needs to stop being such a baby and grow up, and realize that *gasp*kids can handle seeing a wrestler bleed because *gasp again* wrestling can be dangerous and stuff like this happens. Yeah. Don't protect your wrestlers Vince. That's too PG! Let him bleed for 40 minutes! I'd love to see ANY example of an hour long match of any kind where the wrestler bladed in the first 10 minutes, and finished the match. Nevermind that this wasn't even your standard run of the mill blade job, but an actual gash on the top of his head. As was mentioned...remember the Eddie Guerrero incident? That match was what 20-25 minutes? But hey, any chance you can get to take a swipe at the product, by all means take it. :/ |
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Post by Robbymac on Oct 26, 2009 15:30:50 GMT -5
Yeah. Don't protect your wrestlers Vince. That's too PG! Let him bleed for 40 minutes! Re read my post, i never said he shouldn't protect his guys but having a temper tantrum because someone bled is just....well....just childish. I'd like to segway a tad, when i was growing up watching wrestling, and when you heard there was say a cage,hardcore,brawl match or something similar you knew it was dangerous atmosphere and there was a good chance someone would bleed, when they did no one threw a hissyfit. And I'm not saying we need attitude era levels of blood,violence and sex, but for the ppv's making it just a slight edgier then your normal programing is not going to hurt anyone. You've been smarkbaited. I would imagine if there was a tantrum it was along the lines of... "Oh, shit! He's busted open hardway and has 50 minutes to go! And they're going through the crowd. Get out there and clean him up so we can keep this thing going!" And I'd guess the reaction would have been the same in 1999 as it would have been in 2009. You've never seen guys busted open in the first 10 minutes of an hour long match before, and you've never seen bloody guys go through the crowd... Maybe it has happened, but not that I can remember. At least not in WWE. There is good reason for that. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 26, 2009 15:37:55 GMT -5
So, Vince needs to grow up and realize kids see blood all the time, that blood is part of old school, hardcore wrestling... You mean, this Vince?  Obviously, he doesn't personally have too big of a problem with blood, it's just that he wants to be careful in a post-Benoit, Post steroid investigation world. |
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Post by Big Daddy Bad Booking on Oct 26, 2009 15:42:51 GMT -5
Smackdown: Punk hits Hardy with microphone, Hardy begins to bleed.HIAC: Cena drops balde, referee picks it up, nobody bleeds.
Bragging Rights: Orton hits Cena with microphone, Cena just happens to bleed.
Kinda reminds me of Bret and Flair at WM8. Bret admitted that was a blade-job at WM8, but he did it in such a fashion that the trainer though Hart got busted hardway on the steps. Now Flair in ME bladed, was obvious about it, and got reprimanded. |
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Post by Ringmaster on Oct 26, 2009 16:01:45 GMT -5
Re read my post, i never said he shouldn't protect his guys but having a temper tantrum because someone bled is just....well....just childish. I'd like to segway a tad, when i was growing up watching wrestling, and when you heard there was say a cage,hardcore,brawl match or something similar you knew it was dangerous atmosphere and there was a good chance someone would bleed, when they did no one threw a hissyfit. And I'm not saying we need attitude era levels of blood,violence and sex, but for the ppv's making it just a slight edgier then your normal programing is not going to hurt anyone. You've been smarkbaited. I would imagine if there was a tantrum it was along the lines of... "Oh, s***! He's busted open hardway and has 50 minutes to go! And they're going through the crowd. Get out there and clean him up so we can keep this thing going!" And I'd guess the reaction would have been the same in 1999 as it would have been in 2009. You've never seen guys busted open in the first 10 minutes of an hour long match before, and you've never seen bloody guys go through the crowd... Maybe it has happened, but not that I can remember. At least not in WWE. There is good reason for that. Perhaphs, i have no problem believing however vince would do such a thing, it's well within the relm of reality. |
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Post by crash1984 on Oct 26, 2009 16:21:58 GMT -5
I have not seen the match however while I do think that they are going overboard with the PG bit, I do believe that they made the right call in both instances.
Where as blading is usually controlled an open wound gushing for 50 minutes would be bad. Probably by the end Cena would be weak and would need at least one bag of IV fluids and possibly even more. Also if the loss was great enough there would be the possibility that he would wind up in hypovolemic shock which is very serious.
With all the diseases that are transferable by blood (Hepatitis and AIDS for instance) I can understand as to why they did not allow them to do the audience spot. Cena and Orton both probably do not have any such disease however chances are that several people in the Audience probably did. If one of them had an open cut and had gotten it against Cena then Cena would have got it.
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Post by GaTechGrad on Oct 26, 2009 17:00:52 GMT -5
Good thing they weren't in South Carolina, else someone could have been facing a fine or jail time.
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Post by Jay Carroll on Oct 26, 2009 17:12:25 GMT -5
Good thing they weren't in South Carolina, else someone could have been facing a fine or jail time. Which reminds me, the Pennsylvania Atheltic Commission does not play around anymore. ECW ruined that, and they are some stringent mofos nowadays. They even drop in on ROH shows nowadays, just to make sure they don't go overboard. |
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Post by skiller on Oct 26, 2009 17:14:51 GMT -5
What scared Vince most was the fact that red stain for a moment made Cena look... HUMAN.
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Post by Bubble Lead on Oct 26, 2009 18:16:47 GMT -5
In related news this got world wide coverage in every syndicated paper, it was discussed at length during several very prominent talk shows, wwe's stocks dropped a steep 20 points as a result and parents everywhere have sworn off the entire wwe product for good. Or I'm being entirely sarcastic and Vince needs to stop being such a baby and grow up, and realize that *gasp*kids can handle seeing a wrestler bleed because *gasp again* wrestling can be dangerous and stuff like this happens. Yeah. Don't protect your wrestlers Vince. That's too PG! Let him bleed for 40 minutes! After 30 years of doing this shit, Vince suddenly is the most benevolent promoter ever? Please. I am not saying he doesnt care about the wrestlers but its not like he was ever above pushing guys [and himself] beyond acceptable limits all in the name of the show. As Vinces own blade jobs, which were incredibly dangerous in their own right, show. |
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Post by Janitor From Mars on Oct 26, 2009 18:42:18 GMT -5
Just watch. Once Linda loses (and she will and probably her CT BOE slot as well), they'll go back to TV-14.
They have to. The product cannot be edgy or interesting in PG mode.
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