Brother Coyote
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Post by Brother Coyote on May 28, 2009 17:50:57 GMT -5
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Starlight Starbright
Don Corleone
Suffers From Macho Madness.
?Literary, intelligent, yet capable of great savagery. A terrifying genius.?
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Post by Starlight Starbright on May 28, 2009 17:51:39 GMT -5
I've heard many many stories from Japanese dojo's of abuse and deprivation, but unless it becomes public with evidence, it doesn't amount to anything. But if it does, then the firestorm is massive. Yeah, I've heard some pretty insane stories of physical and sexual abuse from the women's dojo's but since they are invisible it never becomes anything.
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Post by Chuckie Finster on May 28, 2009 17:57:54 GMT -5
UPDATE.
Someone on CZWfans.com with a Japanese-speaking friend has read the links.
Araken (the bald guy) IS NOT involved in this. He was a whistle blower who used his blog to get it out.
The guys involved are Shingo Takagi, Akira Tozawa and Katsuo/Yuki Ono.
The monkey is now living and being cared by CIMA's parents.
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Post by Alexander The So-so on May 28, 2009 18:00:05 GMT -5
I'm actually not too surprised that Tozawa was involved. All accounts I've heard say that he was a real prick backstage who was constantly causing problems due to his attitude.
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Post by Viking Snad on May 28, 2009 18:01:33 GMT -5
Honestly, the pictures look kinda fake to me. Obviously, I'm not POSITIVE, but that's how it looks.
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Post by srr on May 28, 2009 18:02:34 GMT -5
wow thats awful ( but not on benoit levels thats going WAY too far) at least the monkeys safe for now
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Post by cmpaul31 on May 28, 2009 18:09:39 GMT -5
And bam goes my recently formed interest in Dragon Gate.
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Post by allstar on May 28, 2009 18:09:56 GMT -5
And this was done on Dragon Gate property.
Scandal, scandal.
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Starlight Starbright
Don Corleone
Suffers From Macho Madness.
?Literary, intelligent, yet capable of great savagery. A terrifying genius.?
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Post by Starlight Starbright on May 28, 2009 18:10:24 GMT -5
And bam goes my recently formed interest in Dragon Gate. Yeah, cause you should totally judge a promotion by a few dickheads they employ. ![::)](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/eyesroll.png)
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Post by Alexander The So-so on May 28, 2009 18:13:26 GMT -5
And bam goes my recently formed interest in Dragon Gate. Yeah, cause you should totally judge a promotion by a few dickheads they employ. ![::)](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/eyesroll.png) QFT. If you didn't stop watching WWE because of Chris Benoit (which was even MORE extreme than this), than you certainly shouldn't do the same for Dragon Gate because of this.
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Post by cmpaul31 on May 28, 2009 18:16:59 GMT -5
If WWE were to continue employing Benoit after what he did(let's say he hadn't committed suicide and somehow avoided jail time), I wouldn't support them.
I'll be happy supporting DG if they fire all of these guys and I have reason to believe the higher-ups had no idea their wrestlers were acting so despicably, otherwise I wouldn't feel at all comfortable.
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Johnny B. Decent
Patti Mayonnaise
Had one once
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Post by Johnny B. Decent on May 28, 2009 18:18:16 GMT -5
Never really liked Shingo, so this puts it at a whole new low. As said, Tozawa is disliked to the point, where when a fan who got backstage asked other DG wrestlers about Tozawa, they all flipped him off, and Ono is Tozawa's friend. Both Tozawa and Ono will probably be fired, but don't know about Shingo.
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Post by Chuckie Finster on May 28, 2009 18:19:24 GMT -5
And bam goes my recently formed interest in Dragon Gate. Yeah, cause you should totally judge a promotion by a few dickheads they employ. ![::)](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/eyesroll.png) Indeed. It's not like IWA-MS where the owner and booker of the company is involved with crap. This was a group of wrestlers doing something and posting it on a blog that happened to be under their company website. Dragon Gate is a smart company. They've grown from doing gym shows to outdrawing New Japan and NOAH in five-figure seat arenas. A lot of their fanbase is female. This will be dealt with by the company some way.
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Post by Crystal Visions on May 28, 2009 18:29:13 GMT -5
I've heard many many stories from Japanese dojo's of abuse and deprivation, but unless it becomes public with evidence, it doesn't amount to anything. But if it does, then the firestorm is massive. Yeah, I've heard some pretty insane stories of physical and sexual abuse from the women's dojo's but since they are invisible it never becomes anything. Towards animals? Because from all accounts, the kitties running around there are treated pretty well. But if you mean towards new recruits, then yeah, GAEA girls alone shows how horrible they can be. I remember how Yoshida cried every day under Yokota's tutilage. The dragon gate guys apparently beat stalker ishikawa daily. shoot punching him and ripping out his hair............. Anyone wanna attend their debut american show and attack them with PETA signs?
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Blindkarevik
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Post by Blindkarevik on May 28, 2009 18:33:04 GMT -5
Yep, I absolutely hate animal abusers.
I just hope this doesn't hurt Dragon Gate in itself.
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biafra
El Dandy
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Post by biafra on May 28, 2009 18:42:36 GMT -5
Damn right, took the words out of my mouth.
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The Ichi
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Post by The Ichi on May 28, 2009 18:57:31 GMT -5
Scumbags. Plain and simple.
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Murf
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Post by Murf on May 28, 2009 20:31:48 GMT -5
Wow. And I was such a huge SHINGO fan too. Wonder what this will mean for DGUSA.
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Square
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Post by Square on May 28, 2009 20:36:27 GMT -5
I'm actually not too surprised that Tozawa was involved. All accounts I've heard say that he was a real prick backstage who was constantly causing problems due to his attitude. Has this been in the media in Japan or is it more on the internet. I'm asking cause if this was tto get into the media than that could lead to serious problems for Dragon Gate and there public image.
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Post by Alexander The So-so on May 28, 2009 20:48:47 GMT -5
I'm actually not too surprised that Tozawa was involved. All accounts I've heard say that he was a real prick backstage who was constantly causing problems due to his attitude. Has this been in the media in Japan or is it more on the internet. I'm asking cause if this was tto get into the media than that could lead to serious problems for Dragon Gate and there public image. I've mostly heard it over the Internet, not the Japanese mainstream media.
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