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Post by Cousin Judge on Dec 28, 2006 18:16:51 GMT -5
But in all seriousness, given Steph's god awful track record, can you tell me that Shane wouldnt be a better choice than Nipple H, or Vince who is getting more crazy and out of touch by the day? I don't know about Steph but Vince has been successfully producing WWE for over 20 years and even today, years after he's aparently gone "crazy and out of touch" he's still managing and producing highly successful TV shows and PPVs. I don't see where this idea that Vince is suddenly out of touch comes from "That Vince, he's mad, he's too old to be able to know what we want to watch on TV....oh quick, Raw's on, grab the popcorn!" As for Shane, like it or not it's his TV character that people like and base their assessment on his abilities to run the company based on that and it's absurd beyond belief, perhaps even more absurd than people who have been saying ever since 1995 that McMahon should retire.
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Post by Ben Wyatt on Dec 28, 2006 18:34:34 GMT -5
But in all seriousness, given Steph's god awful track record, can you tell me that Shane wouldnt be a better choice than Nipple H, or Vince who is getting more crazy and out of touch by the day? I don't know about Steph but Vince has been successfully producing WWE for over 20 years and even today, years after he's aparently gone "crazy and out of touch" he's still managing and producing highly successful TV shows and PPVs. I don't see where this idea that Vince is suddenly out of touch comes from "That Vince, he's mad, he's too old to be able to know what we want to watch on TV....oh quick, Raw's on, grab the popcorn!" As for Shane, like it or not it's his TV character that people like and base their assessment on his abilities to run the company based on that and it's absurd beyond belief, perhaps even more absurd than people who have been saying ever since 1995 that McMahon should retire. I'll admit that some of the Vince bashing is a bit out of whack, but there is some merit to the thought of Vince stepping down. The reality is that he is 60 years old, and some of his ideas of late seem like they're not exactly well thought out. Im not saying he's totally senile and clueless, maybe he's in a rut at the moment, either way, he seems far from the guy who helped bring the attitude era
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Post by Ace Diamond on Dec 28, 2006 18:36:18 GMT -5
Shane is just a stunt man who books all his matches against everyone so he looks like a million dollars and whoever he wrestles looks like crap struggling to beat some chubby office suit. Of course if Vince or Steph did this they'd be crucified but people seem to sip Shane O'Mac Kool-Aid so he gets away with it. Besides, as we know - he can fall onto boxes so GIVE HIM THE COMPANY!!!! Because how else are we to judge how good someone would run a sports entertainment company other than looking at how he falls? Afterall thats how most Shane supporters have made their decision that he should be the 'empowered' McMahon when Vince goes. Watch the match he had with Steve Blackman at Summerslam 2000. I dare you to tell me Blackman looked like crap. I DARE YOU.
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Post by Ben Wyatt on Dec 28, 2006 18:38:35 GMT -5
Shane is just a stunt man who books all his matches against everyone so he looks like a million dollars and whoever he wrestles looks like crap struggling to beat some chubby office suit. Of course if Vince or Steph did this they'd be crucified but people seem to sip Shane O'Mac Kool-Aid so he gets away with it. Besides, as we know - he can fall onto boxes so GIVE HIM THE COMPANY!!!! Because how else are we to judge how good someone would run a sports entertainment company other than looking at how he falls? Afterall thats how most Shane supporters have made their decision that he should be the 'empowered' McMahon when Vince goes. Watch the match he had with Steve Blackman at Summerslam 2000. I dare you to tell me Blackman looked like crap. I DARE YOU. Or Test the year before. That was hands down the best match Test ever had.
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Post by dennisisevil on Dec 28, 2006 18:45:25 GMT -5
No he's just a guy who falls off crap.
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Post by Joekishi on Dec 28, 2006 19:03:40 GMT -5
That's the question I ask all of you crappers. Everytime he is involved in a storyline, he takes an insane amount of punishment that takes its toll on the body. So what do you all think? Is Shane this generation's Dyanmite Kid? I think this gernation's Dynamite Kid doesn't Exist. Dynamite was a horrible human being and this is from his own mouth. He admits to being the biggest jerk in the world and is damn proud of it. The stuff he did to matilda Oh and nobody these days is using horse steroids
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Post by Ben Wyatt on Dec 28, 2006 19:04:25 GMT -5
That's the question I ask all of you crappers. Everytime he is involved in a storyline, he takes an insane amount of punishment that takes its toll on the body. So what do you all think? Is Shane this generation's Dyanmite Kid? I think this gernation's Dynamite Kid doesn't Exist. Dynamite was a horrible human being and this is from his own mouth. He admits to being the biggest jerk in the world and is damn proud of it. The stuff he did to matilda Oh and nobody these days is using horse steroids We have a winner
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Post by Cousin Judge on Dec 28, 2006 19:16:01 GMT -5
Shane made guys look like crap by simply being in great matches with them. If some guy who isn't even a wrestler comes in and takes a full-time superstar to the wire in a five star, how does that make the wrestler look good knowing that they struggle against someone who they should really crush inside seconds.
They can beat a jobber who's a proper athleticly trained wrestler inside 3 minutes but it takes them 30 minutes and many near falls to beat some overweight guy who sits in the office all day. No matter how good the match is, it only makes Shane look good, even if he loses because he's booking himself to look like he can go all the way with them when in fact if he ever is going to wrestle someone he should be squashed. At least Vince LOOKS like someone who can seriously kick some ass. Shane just wears baggy pants and a gay dance.
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Post by leemir on Dec 28, 2006 19:26:15 GMT -5
We're comparing Shane McMahon to possibly the greatest in-ring Wrestler of all time IMO? LOL!
Yeah Shane can take a lot a punishment in m
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Post by nestlekwik on Dec 28, 2006 19:29:57 GMT -5
I find Shane the most entertaining of all of his family but I don't really think you could really compare him to a full-time wrestler. But while he has given a few wrestlers the previously stated pushes, he can also bury too - look at his feud with Kane. I will say some of the skits they had were ridiculously funny (the car battery and flaming dumpster - funny crap).
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Post by clifford on Dec 28, 2006 19:57:44 GMT -5
god, will we ever get a Dynamite Kid DVD?...............................
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Post by Ace Diamond on Dec 28, 2006 20:04:36 GMT -5
Shane made guys look like crap by simply being in great matches with them. If some guy who isn't even a wrestler comes in and takes a full-time superstar to the wire in a five star, how does that make the wrestler look good knowing that they struggle against someone who they should really crush inside seconds. They can beat a jobber who's a proper athleticly trained wrestler inside 3 minutes but it takes them 30 minutes and many near falls to beat some overweight guy who sits in the office all day. No matter how good the match is, it only makes Shane look good, even if he loses because he's booking himself to look like he can go all the way with them when in fact if he ever is going to wrestle someone he should be squashed. At least Vince LOOKS like someone who can seriously kick some ass. Shane just wears baggy pants and a gay dance. Shane isn't that overweight looking at all, esp. during the days when he wrestled quite a bit (98-2001)
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Post by nestlekwik on Dec 28, 2006 20:12:44 GMT -5
god, will we ever get a Dynamite Kid DVD?............................... It seems the casual fan has no idea who Dynamite Kid is. I've had to explain him to countless people. On the reason, I would say not any time soon.
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Post by Galluchadore on Dec 28, 2006 21:41:22 GMT -5
god, will we ever get a Dynamite Kid DVD?............................... the problem is his really great stuff was during his japan days. theres a really good compilation dvd at ivpvideos has most of his matches with tiger mask and a bunch more. Another thing is he never really had a chance to showcase his talents in wwe that much as he was injured sometime around 87 or so. I seriously recommend reading his book(which i really loved. one of the best out there) and watching a best of dvd from japan. Together they really do a good job of tying his entire career together .
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Post by The Lach is very tired on Dec 28, 2006 21:48:49 GMT -5
This is like comparing Cake to pizza. Both are great in totally different ways. That sums it up perfectly. Bravo EMB!
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Post by HRH The KING on Dec 28, 2006 22:02:41 GMT -5
No chance.
Benoit most resembles Dynamite's style
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Post by Kevin Hamilton on Dec 28, 2006 22:22:30 GMT -5
Nope.
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Post by HRH The KING on Dec 28, 2006 22:23:37 GMT -5
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Post by Ace Diamond on Dec 28, 2006 22:32:47 GMT -5
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Post by Bub (BLM) on Dec 28, 2006 23:04:39 GMT -5
I think our generation's Dynamite Kid was Chris Benoit, and the next gen's Dynamite Kid has to be Bryan Danielson.
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