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Post by PaperStreetBrigade on Oct 22, 2009 17:22:07 GMT -5
Big Show. I forget who said it, but someone in WCW said the only differnce between Giant and Reese (AKA Yeti) was a Push.
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Post by Mongo & Pepe: Back in Black on Oct 22, 2009 17:25:40 GMT -5
My vote goes to the Iron Sheik. I never cared for his ring work.
I enjoyed Yokozuna's run. I thought he played the heel big man perfectly. And given the right opponent, his matches weren't completely horrendous.
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Post by JerryvonKramer on Oct 22, 2009 18:30:05 GMT -5
This far in with no mention of Yokozuna? He was pretty awful. He really wasn't. Pretty agile for a man of his enormous size. Second best monster heel after Vader in my opinion. Also, the Iron Sheik's gutwrench suplex is a thing of beauty. |
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Post by hajimenoippo on Oct 22, 2009 18:35:40 GMT -5
Vince Russo
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Post by FedEx227 on Oct 22, 2009 18:42:32 GMT -5
Russo never held the WWF/E Belt.
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Post by strykerdarksilence on Oct 22, 2009 18:52:28 GMT -5
Nash is my obvious choice. Big Show and Booker T both come close too, mainly due to sheer laziness and phoning it in than anything else.
Show could have been (and could still be) incredible if he was bothered about keeping himself in shape. Being constantly 50-100 pounds overweight and wrestling is not good for the body, hence his injury issues in recent years.
Booker apparently stopped caring in 2003 around the time he first started mentioning retirement. His ring work never got above dull after that.
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Post by hajimenoippo on Oct 22, 2009 18:54:32 GMT -5
Kayfabe Vince McMahon.
Personal opinion, still don't like Jeff Hardy
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Post by Mac on Oct 22, 2009 21:42:26 GMT -5
It's Great Khali by a mile.. Vince McMahon is more of a wrestler than Khali
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Post by Angus Mcloud on Oct 22, 2009 22:42:27 GMT -5
Big Show. I forget who said it, but someone in WCW said the only differnce between Giant and Reese (AKA Yeti) was a Push. It was Regal |
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Post by triplealbert on Oct 22, 2009 22:54:49 GMT -5
Big Show. I forget who said it, but someone in WCW said the only differnce between Giant and Reese (AKA Yeti) was a Push. It was Regal And he was, and is, wrong. |
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Post by comahan on Oct 22, 2009 23:05:36 GMT -5
Khali imo. He cant do anything at all, hes just big. Vince has had some FANTASTIC matches, and is capable of working certain styles (street fight...), but Khali just kind of gets beat on, never falls down, then swings a limb at someone and wins.
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Post by h on Oct 22, 2009 23:06:48 GMT -5
Vince. Non wrestlers, should never ever be the world champion. Agreed 100%. |
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Post by Bubble Lead on Oct 23, 2009 6:36:22 GMT -5
WWE Title:
Vince. He is entertaining and all, but he shouldn't be holding any titles.
Slaughter. Way too late, and he looked like an out of shape old man when he returned so even as a kid I couldn't take him seriously.
JBL. Great promo guy but he puts me to sleep in the ring. His title match vs. John Cena at WM 21 was the worst Wrestlemania Title match ever IMO.
WHC:
Khali by a mile. The man just cannot wrestle. Terrible at selling, terrible at executing moves. Just bleh.
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Post by markdown474 on Oct 23, 2009 7:42:47 GMT -5
Sgt. Slaughter. Would have been great 8 years earlier, but in 1991- after like 5 years of retirement- WWF didn't even apparently give him time to get back into fighting-shape. He even said so himself when discussing his match with the Ultimate Warrior on the bash-the-Warrior DVD. Agreed, Slaughter gets my vote as well. Although don't think he was retired (he had come from the AWA where he bailed 3/4 way through the infamous team-challenge series). Looking back it blows my mind that Vince thought Hogan/Slaughter would be a bigger draw than Hogan/Warrior 2. |
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Post by Perigryn on Oct 24, 2009 8:27:45 GMT -5
And he was, and is, wrong. To be fair, he said that to The Giant when he was starting to get an ego and questioned why Rey Mysterio Jr was getting so much attention despite his small size. Guess Regal didn't appreciate the Hogan attitude rubbing off on him and needed to cut him down a bit... |
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Post by quantum on Oct 24, 2009 10:49:47 GMT -5
Sgt. Slaughter. Would have been great 8 years earlier, but in 1991- after like 5 years of retirement- WWF didn't even apparently give him time to get back into fighting-shape. He even said so himself when discussing his match with the Ultimate Warrior on the bash-the-Warrior DVD. Agreed, Slaughter gets my vote as well. Although don't think he was retired (he had come from the AWA where he bailed 3/4 way through the infamous team-challenge series). Looking back it blows my mind that Vince thought Hogan/Slaughter would be a bigger draw than Hogan/Warrior 2. I completly agree with you on Warrior/Hogan 2 being a bigger draw then Slaughter/Hogan for Wrestlemania 7. However the event was booked IMO the best way it could have been. If we had Warrior/Hogan 2 it would have been a big re match from the year before where Hogan would have wanted his 'revenge and wanted to go over'. Wrestlemania had been headlined by the same two stars the previous year which was a massive success. WWF for that time would have been taking a massive gamble going for face vs face again two years in a row at Mania. Which would have featured more or less the same storyline re hash from the year before). Wrestlemania at that point had never had the same two wrestlers n(never mind two faces) headline Mania two years in a row. It would have been a massive gamble for WWF at that time. Also if Warrior was to face Hogan what would they have done with Savage. In his 'Macho King' gimmick one of the best heels of that time frame and ever at Mania. We would never had the Liz re union or the epic Wrestlemania 7 career match. The first ever career match at Mania. Which gave us match of the night and our Mania moment in Savage and Liz re union. Which lead to Savage face turn again. Also what would they have done with Slaughter at that time one of the biggest heels (like it or not) in the WWF at that time. Slaughter VS Hogan would have made a lot more sense if Slaughter was in better shape. However they did run with the best card. What would have been better with the same card (if Hogan would have allowed) was Hogan VS Slaughter on the mid card 9same place as Savage VS Warrior took place) and on top Warrior VS Savage career match for the WWF Championship with the same out come and ending to the match. End with Savage and Liz in the ring and Warrior still champion. This would have meant never making Slaughter one of the worst WWF Champions of all time at Royal Rumble could turn Savage interference in Warrior VS Slaughter Rumble match into a D.Q and build from there. If the WWF really wanted to they could give the belt back to Hogan or at leas have a Warrior VS Hogan re match at Summerslam fading Slaughter and his trio out of the WWF following Mania 7. This would have worked better all round for Mania 7 and drew far better than Slaughter/Hogan./ Also it would have meant Warrior fought and defeated the WWFs two biggest wrestlers of the 80;s and past Manias. Building him up even more to be the next Hogan or the next big thing in the WWF. As the WWF were doing at that point. It would have also still gave us our Hogan goes over evil foreigner as happened at Mania 7. Just not as the main event or the headline for the show. |
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Post by tarheelfan on Oct 24, 2009 11:29:03 GMT -5
I reckon either Ivan Koloff or Sid. Ivan Koloff may have had a short tile reign but he was vastly more credible as a champion than Rey Mysterio ever was. |
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Post by whitecrxsses on Oct 24, 2009 12:18:55 GMT -5
Don't call out other posters.
-Radio Clash
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Post by Jim Stansel on Oct 24, 2009 12:53:28 GMT -5
as far as skills Khali has to take the cake for WHC
for WWE/F Title I never cared for Austin or Guerrero's reigns, but they werent the worst, I am a sucker for a heel champ so i loved JBL, so i guess Vince for the non wrestler reason.
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Post by stevieraymark on Oct 24, 2009 16:45:22 GMT -5
Based solely on wrestling ability? Ultimate Warrior.
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