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Post by toddpolt on Nov 13, 2009 22:19:52 GMT -5
I was honestly surprised at how well Matt Ryan has panned out. For some reason, I thought fair or not, his fault or not, he would have been eaten alive down in Atlanta. Yet he's made that city forget that dog killer. Remember the 2000 NFL Draft? The New York Jets had four(!) 1st Round draft picks. with #3, they picked Chad Pennington, only QB drafted in the 1st Round. I thought he would do better, but alas. Yet the QBs from that draft who did go to the Pro Bowl were both taken in the 6th Round. Marc Bulger with the Rams, and that what's his name dude, the back up at Michigan who now is "hanging" out with a hot supermodel. I mean how can anyone ever remember a guy who benched in favor of Drew Henson? With basketball, the 1984 draft is memorable. Trailblazers passed over Michael Jordan because they already have their awesome forwards (Clyde Drexler) and they badly needed a center so they picked Sam Bowie instead. Yet despite the possible shame of being drafted in front of Michael Jordan, Hakeem Olajuwon did rather well. Two rings too. Nobody has ever criticized the Rockets for that pick. Right? Oh and just because my quota demands it, Ryan Leaf. Remember when people thought he was just as good of a franchise investment pick as Peyton Manning? Just to stab Chargers' fans hearts, don't forget that Matt Hasselbeck went in the 6th that year.
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Post by Bravo Echo November on Nov 13, 2009 22:22:58 GMT -5
Tom Brady -6th Round
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Post by Mozenrath on Nov 13, 2009 22:40:33 GMT -5
The closest wrestling equivalent, remember when WWE was going to have two big WCW stars wrestle on Raw to be showcased? Booker T? Cool, I can get behind that, who is he facing? Wait, Buff Bagwell?
Ooh, boy, that should of been a pretty big harbinger of things to come.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 13, 2009 22:51:57 GMT -5
There have been a lot of NBA Draft busts throughout the years...
1972 - the Trail Blazers selected LaRue Martin at #1 1977 - the Bucks selected Kent Benson at #1 1989 - the Kings selected Pervis Ellison at #1 1995 - the Warriors selected Joe Smith at #1 1998 - the Clippers selected Michael Olowokandi at #1 2001 - the Wizards selected Kwame Brown at #1 (at the request of Michael Jordan)
and those are just the #1 overall picks.
As for surprise hits, nobody in the NBA expected Dan Majerle or Steve Nash to do as well as they did. Matter of fact, Suns fans booed Cotton Fitzsimmons when Majerle got picked.
Majerle became the first sixth man in NBA history to be voted into the All-Star Game as a starter.
Nash - two consecutive MVP awards, barely missing out on a third.
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Post by Sajoa Moe on Nov 13, 2009 22:55:19 GMT -5
Obviously the selection of Mike Piazza in the 62nd round of the MLB amateur draft. Supposedly he was only drafted as a favor to a member of the Dodgers organization, and now he's the all-time leader in home runs by a a catcher.
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Post by Red Impact on Nov 13, 2009 22:55:28 GMT -5
Drafting is always hit or miss. You never know how a player is going to play out, and I'd bet the majority of first-round picks in any sport fizzle out.
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Post by toddpolt on Nov 13, 2009 22:57:21 GMT -5
2001 - the Wizards selected Kwame Brown at #1 (at the request of Michael Jordan) and those are just the #1 overall picks. Same draft which also produced Pau Gasol, Joe Johnson, Tony Parker, Gilbret Arenas, and Mehmet Okur. As for surprise hits, nobody in the NBA expected Dan Majerle or Steve Nash to do as well as they did. Matter of fact, Suns fans booed Cotton Fitzsimmons when Majerle got picked. Majerle became the first sixth man in NBA history to be voted into the All-Star Game as a starter. Nash - two consecutive MVP awards, barely missing out on a third. Or how incredibly stupid the Hornets were for trading away the draft rights of Kobe Bryant for Vladi Divac. I mean really, wow.
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Post by Milkman Norm on Nov 13, 2009 22:57:56 GMT -5
To be fair Michigan did not bench Tom Brady for Drew Henson. Henson and Brady split time in Carr's system. While Brady did come into relieve Henson sometimes (like the 99 or 2000 Michigan State game) He started and won plenty of big games for Michigan(The 2000 Orange Bowl comes to mind)
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Post by toddpolt on Nov 13, 2009 23:00:04 GMT -5
To be fair Michigan did not bench Tom Brady for Drew Henson. Henson and Brady split time in Carr's system. While Brady did come into relieve Henson sometimes (like the 99 or 2000 Michigan State game) He started and won plenty of big games for Michigan(The 2000 Orange Bowl comes to mind) True, but who was remembered as "the" quarterback? You're right, I just fell into the sorta-myth that ESPN and others have greatly propegated over the years. My bad.
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Post by stealthamo on Nov 13, 2009 23:17:06 GMT -5
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Post by default on Nov 13, 2009 23:39:26 GMT -5
As an Eagles fan, this list begins and ends with Mike Mamula. For those unfamiliar, back then the draft drills were known in advance, so he just kept practicing them like mad until he put up amazing stats. He was prett much responsible for the term "Weekend Warrior" and although not totally worthless, he was a waste of a first rounder. Especially considering Warren Sapp was out there.
Oh, and sticking withthe '95 Draft. Ki-Jana Carter. '95 was a big year for Penn State after a killer season and Rose Bowl appearance. He was selected by the Bengals, #1 overall. I can remember a lot of Penn State/Steelers fans being pissed. He ended up tearing his knee in the first bit of his first preseason appearance and after some stints later on in Washington and New Orleans, amounted to nothing. Probably the most surprising bust in NFL history as he was an out and out beast on the field. Hell, he was the only guy in Penn State who JoePa told should forego his senior year and degree to go pro.
That was also the draft year of Kerry Collins, among other Nittany Lions. Most around here didn't really expect much from Collins. He was one of the better QB's PS has had, but JoePa's system has always been more about running and short passes and not building NFL level QBs.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 13, 2009 23:40:03 GMT -5
Surprising Busts: Mr. Ryan Leaf, Alexandre Daigle
Surprising Hits: Pavel Datsyuk, Henrik Zetterberg, Tom Brady
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Post by Dr. T is an alien on Nov 13, 2009 23:41:53 GMT -5
Bill Pollian does a hell of a job for the Colts. Robert Mathis was a 5th rd. pick. Jeff Saturday, a 3X Pro Bowler, was undrafted. Gary Brackett, defensive team captain, also was undrafted. Antoine Bethea, 1X Pro Bowler, was a 6th rd. pick. Oh, and they DIDN'T pick Ryan Leaf when they had the chance.
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Post by carter 15 on Nov 13, 2009 23:58:52 GMT -5
Cortland Finnegan, 7th round pick ALL PRO out've SAMFORD
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Post by stealthamo on Nov 14, 2009 0:11:40 GMT -5
On the subject of surprising draft hits, I'll have to say Marques Colston of the Saints. Pick 252 in the 2006 NFL Draft (4th last player to be picked), and he has over 1000 receiving yards in both of his first two season, and likely would've had another 1000 yard season last year had he not gotten injured. But he's back on the pace this year, with nearly 600 yards in 8 games.
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Post by bob on Nov 14, 2009 0:17:27 GMT -5
Jamarcus Russell, Reggie Bush, The Boz
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Post by bob on Nov 14, 2009 0:20:32 GMT -5
David Carr & Joey Harrington
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Post by toddpolt on Nov 14, 2009 0:30:23 GMT -5
David Carr & Joey Harrington And just think, the genius who drafted Harrington is now an "expert" analysis on ESPN pre-game and broadcasting for the NFL network.
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Post by Milkman Norm on Nov 14, 2009 0:38:15 GMT -5
Tony Mandarich was taken #2 by the Packers in 1989 ahead of Emmit Smith, Derrek Thomas and Dion Sanders. He turned out to be a total bust in every possible way after he was exposed to NFL quality defensive pass rushers.
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Post by WWE Trademarked My Name on Nov 14, 2009 0:38:47 GMT -5
I didn't think there was a chance in hell the Houston Texans would ever be able to look back on picking Mario Williams over Reggie Bush as a good call, boy was I wrong. 1999 NFL DraftAlso I was sure that Donovan McNabb, Daunte Culpepper and Cade McNown would be looked upon as busts. 1 for 3 ain't bad. Don't know what I saw in Tim Couch, and I was just rooting Akili Smith on because I'm a fan of both Oregon and the Bengals.
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