Is anyone else sick of the guest host run?

[ilggant]

Nov 5, 2009 22:33:36 GMT -5 barley96 said:

I hated the guest host idea from the start.

["Dashing" Dr.VonPhoenix]

Is anyone else sick of the guest host run?

Um. Not me, son. I'll take random celebrities over Vickie Guerrero any f***ing day. More than that, I like the semi unpredictability of who's going to suck at it and who's going to be good at it. Screw a GM. Guest hosts ftw.

[Professor Chaos]

I'm going along with it just for the fact that eventually they'll get The Rock to do it to promote a new movie, and it'll be the greatest episode of RAW in a loooooong time.

[Ryushinku]

Nah, I still enjoy it. They've had some poor hosts but some good ones too, so it's fine by me.

I'd rather they continue as it leaves the doors open for anyone...as the good Professor Chaos points out, even guys like The Rock.

[SickFlipPiledriver]

They've all been entertaining in some capacity so no, I'm not.

[wrestlecrapcrap]

I'm fine with it, although I do agree that Raw needs a long term strategy, or focal point - as you mentioned the likes of NWO or Austin/McMahon will be continuous stories week to week.

Legacy could be that story. Everytime they've focussed on them, the show has been good. Having a GM doesn't neccesarily mean that they will make the show better though, Vickie for example was great on Smackdown but barely done anything on Raw.

[spagett]

I hated it from the moment it was announced and although there has been the occasional good Guest GM one week, the next we have a terrible host who fulbs their lines.

Like others have pointed out in many ways this Guest GM has resulted in even staler shows than before. There are about 4 or 5 set pieces that they use every week, Santino dresses up as someone and does something unfunny, they are interrupted by Jericho and for some unknown reason are best buddies with DX.

I just hope this is all leading to somebody like The Rock guest hosting otherwise it has been a total waste of time.

[Krimzon]

I was sick of it 2 weeks into it. The guest hosts are "hit or miss," with the majority being "miss."

[Bo Rida]

Yes but the concept isn't entirely flawed, as others have said they just need more variety, I think RAW would still have the same problems without them.

I don't mind people I've never heard of if they're good, Bob Barker was great and added to the show, others just make it worse.

It's preferable to a heel GM anyway.

[Deleted]

I think they need to kill it off, and fast. Every non-wrestling fan I talk to has mentioned the guest host crap and how stupid it is.

It's gotten Raw a ratings bump, but I'm afraid it's going to destroy a lot of their credibility in the long run.

[Super Nintenjoe KBD]

As soon as it was announced I hated the idea, and not even A-List celebs would make it good for me. I watched Raw far more before it all started. The only weeks when I didnt mind it as much was when former wrestlers were actually the hosts.

[SickFlipPiledriver]

Nov 6, 2009 9:38:42 GMT -5 @mightykretzler said:

I think they need to kill it off, and fast. Every non-wrestling fan I talk to has mentioned the guest host crap and how stupid it is.

It's gotten Raw a ratings bump, but I'm afraid it's going to destroy a lot of their credibility in the long run.

Why you would care what non-wrestling fans think about a wrestling show?

[Big L]

Well I Would say it's time 2 fine a new GM

[Dr. Bunsen Honeydew]

Nov 6, 2009 2:43:21 GMT -5 Perigryn said:

Nov 5, 2009 22:32:48 GMT -5 Tyfo said:

I'm not necessarily sick of the Guest Host thing, but I am sick of it being the same thing every week more or less. Each week the guest hosts do the exact same things with the exact same people.

It's like they have an all encompassing guest host angle booklet and they just plug in the different host each week to the same storylines.

If they would vary what the hosts do, it would keep me interested in it. And God forbid making one play the heel role and not just pander to DX, Cena, Hornswoggle, etc.

Well, Piven and Dr Ken did have a go at being heels and that didn't work out well. Now if they got Legends to do it, it'd work fine...

Sgt. Slaughter disagrees on your last statement.

[Krimzon]

Nov 6, 2009 10:00:30 GMT -5 SickFlipPiledriver said:

Nov 6, 2009 9:38:42 GMT -5 @mightykretzler said:

I think they need to kill it off, and fast. Every non-wrestling fan I talk to has mentioned the guest host crap and how stupid it is.

It's gotten Raw a ratings bump, but I'm afraid it's going to destroy a lot of their credibility in the long run.

Why you would care what non-wrestling fans think about a wrestling show?

That's who the WWE is trying to hook with this angle.

[Jay Carroll]

Nov 6, 2009 10:12:51 GMT -5 Dr. Bunsen Honeydew said:

Nov 6, 2009 2:43:21 GMT -5 Perigryn said:

Well, Piven and Dr Ken did have a go at being heels and that didn't work out well. Now if they got Legends to do it, it'd work fine...

Sgt. Slaughter disagrees on your last statement.

And it was hilarious, if not cruel.
At least they didn't do the Bret Hart fakeout, again.

[SickFlipPiledriver]

Nov 6, 2009 10:14:11 GMT -5 Krimzon said:

Nov 6, 2009 10:00:30 GMT -5 SickFlipPiledriver said:

Why you would care what non-wrestling fans think about a wrestling show?

That's who the WWE is trying to hook with this angle.

To rephrase: if a non-wrestling fan thinks it's stupid, what difference does it make when they didn't watch wrestling anyways?

They've kept their ratings against MNF so the guest host thing has to have some merit since the booking hasn't really changed.

[Fiddleford H. McGucket]

My 2 cents on this:

While I'm not happy by any means with the "Guest GM" idea, and in some cases my knowledge or lack thereof has made me actively avoid RAW, it has led to some great moments.

I'm also of the opinion that a GOOD guest host makes a mediocre show marginally better and a good show great, but a poor gguest host can bring a good show's momentum to a screeching halt.

There's a big part of me that feels cheated on the whole beginning of this guest GM thing. I was at the 3 hour Raw live where Vince was supposed to name the new GM/Owner/whatever of Raw and being in Charlotte, Flair was supposed to be a lock.

Instead we get "The Donald", not even a live Donald, but an OBVIOUSLY pre-taped segment with pauses for Vince. I appreciate a GOOD swerve as much as anyone, but the mood of the show was.....off after that announcement, no Flair, no Million $ Man after the whole "Everyone has thier price" remark, just a washed up pseudo-billionaire that NO ONE takes seriously anymore.

[Slammywinner]

Nov 6, 2009 1:39:42 GMT -5 Threadkiller [Classic] said:

Nov 5, 2009 22:29:43 GMT -5 galzinho said:

This has been grinding on me for a few weeks, and my friends seem to agree with me, but does anyone else feel it has run its course?

To me it seems as if they have no long term plan/strategy for Raw, the analogy I used to explain it is in sports, if a team sacks a coach/manager, a caretaker boss is employed to keep the ball rolling by getting results (ratings) on a game to game (episode to episode) basis, thus allowing time to find a new boss who will install a new long-term strategy for the team. I mean when you look at a few successful storylines in recent history, it does involve a leader/focal point in the company, for example Austin/Vince and Bischoff with the NWO; think about the heat Vicky got when she was with Edge, or the McMahon-Helmsley era, it just makes sense to me to have a person at the top to bounce storylines off with the talent, as opposed to numerous plugs and people I (personally) have never heard of.

Just wondering what the thoughts of people are to that

I just wish they'd go back to the days when there wasn't an on-screen figurehead and simply a nebulous, vague "board of directors" or "championship committee" running things. Or, if you must have a figurehead, follow the Jack Tunney/Gorilla Monsoon model and only have them appear for big occasions. There doesn't need to be a person calling the shots on-screen every week. The whole authority figure on-screen persona is played out worse than "Don't Stop Believin'" - except I acknowledge that it's overplayed and I still love the song anyway. The GM role? Not so much. I like Teddy Long, though. He's the only one I'd keep, and I'd either make him THE figurehead who makes the occasional appearance or I'd send him back to managing.

Also, I'd keep Tiffany on as a diva. She's yummy.

EDIT: Dang! Beaten to it by dh03grad. He's right, though.

I agree with the desire to see a "Tunny/Monsoon" type President behind-the-scenes GM. But I appreciate why we don't have one:

The idea for WWE and all the big companies since Nitro has been to have matches set up spontaneously at the start of the show, rather than promoting the next week's card in advance. This is done so the viewer "has to tune in each week because anything can happen in the WWF!" And while they are pretty much booking by photocopier on RAW, to put control back into a group that isn't in the building to interact and setup the big event means the "board" would need to make most decisions in advance. So that negates a tool they feel is very important to their TV formula. Whether it's a right or wrong formula is another issue...

[boomhauer20055]

I have hated it since the beginning. I like when the legends host but that has been not often enough. I liked Dusty,Ted and Sgt Slaughter. The rest sucked really bad