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Post by christiancage on Nov 24, 2009 13:18:44 GMT -5
Christian with out a doubt. He has everything it takes to be and stay in the main event scene. The guy has been ready for years now.
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Post by manstis1804 on Nov 24, 2009 13:20:51 GMT -5
I would have liked to see Swagger. His arrogance and aggressive self esteem are heat magnets. A win like this would be perfect for him. I think he should get a big PPV title match before Sheamus does. I totally agree. Given who the champions are, a heel had to win, and Swagger was the right guy in my opinion. Maybe they see more in him and want his first attempt at the belt to be successful, this will do more for Sheamus than it will anyone else so I see their point of view. I can't believe people want to see Miz job to Cena again, that would hurt him since he reinvented himself after that whole mess.
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Post by seamonsters on Nov 24, 2009 13:34:24 GMT -5
Right man - wrong PPV. I'd have done it for the Royal Rumble - that way you have an extra six weeks and a PPV to build Sheamus up, and putting Sheamus in a position where the onus on selling the PPV is on the Rumble, rather than a Cena v Newcomer in a tables match.
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Post by The Possum on Nov 24, 2009 13:36:57 GMT -5
Come to think of it, did Big Show defend the belt against Bossman on PPV or is this just my memories getting mixed up? No it definitely happened at Survivor Series 99. It was like less than five minutes and played second banana to Triple H vs. Vince.
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Post by seamonsters on Nov 24, 2009 14:03:01 GMT -5
Come to think of it, did Big Show defend the belt against Bossman on PPV or is this just my memories getting mixed up? No it definitely happened at Survivor Series 99. It was like less than five minutes and played second banana to Triple H vs. Vince. Armageddon 99. Big Show won the title at Survivor Series, after Austin was run over. I guess it was easier than putting the Triple H/McMahon fued or Rock n Sock tag team stuff on hold
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Post by A Dubya (El Hombre Muerto) on Nov 24, 2009 14:16:10 GMT -5
MVP needs something. I hope he can do something big before all of the interest in him is completely killed.
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Post by Ben Wyatt on Nov 24, 2009 14:17:44 GMT -5
Right man - wrong PPV. I'd have done it for the Royal Rumble - that way you have an extra six weeks and a PPV to build Sheamus up, and putting Sheamus in a position where the onus on selling the PPV is on the Rumble, rather than a Cena v Newcomer in a tables match. I came to post exactly this
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Post by bob on Nov 24, 2009 14:22:19 GMT -5
Swagger
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Post by Threadkiller [Classic] on Nov 24, 2009 14:28:04 GMT -5
Come to think of it, did Big Show defend the belt against Bossman on PPV or is this just my memories getting mixed up? No it definitely happened at Survivor Series 99. It was like less than five minutes and played second banana to Triple H vs. Vince. Actually, it was the next month at Armageddon 99. I remember going to school the next morning and in the locker room before weight training, I overheard the seniors talking about it and one of them said, "Man, Big Show/Bossman was so shitty it could have been the opening match." Exact words. And I don't know why, but I thought that was hysterical. Then again, everything is hysterical when you're 14. Except acne. Unless you're a jock and don't have it. But yeah, Swagger should have gotten the nod, in my opinion. And the fact that he was on the jobbers' team last night with Masters and Chavo kind of shows me what they think of him.
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Post by Bubble Lead on Nov 24, 2009 14:32:17 GMT -5
Sheamus is fine with me, whoever got the shot would just be fed to Cena anyway.
The best Sheamus can hope for from this is that he comes out of this still looking credible. Cena does NOT have a good track record in that area though, typically anyone that feuds with him and hasn't already been established as a main eventer comes out of it looking weaker than they did going in and like they are nowhere near Cenas level.
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Post by xxshoyuweeniexx on Nov 24, 2009 14:37:58 GMT -5
Miz, seriously what will it hurt? He already gets heat, he's a solid built up midcarder now unlike last time, and he could go for 2 titles at once. Sure he'd lose, but a competitive match unlike the one at The Bash would give a guy who may be ready to break though the rub he needs.
Sheamus is just an asinine insta squash push. Even in kayfable, everyone realizes he has no chance in hell at winning. Seriously, what the hell did he do? He beat up some no name guys no one cares about, he retired Jamie Noble who no one cares about, he beat up King who gets his ass beat like 3 times a year, and he beat up a referee and a ring announcer. The only real person he beat was Finaly, and guys like Shelton and Goldust on ECW don't matter to most WWE fans. Its not even like Brock Lesnar or Lashely, they at least had feuds and build. This is teaching a 5 year old to swim, then having him race Michael Phelps around Lake Michigan.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 24, 2009 14:42:13 GMT -5
Sheamus.
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Post by lmagicdancer1 on Nov 24, 2009 14:49:30 GMT -5
Yeah, The Miz. Sheamus is too early and it's not like with Brock Lesnar where there's a chance he'll win. No, but it would be an interesting twist if he did win. Put someone in his corner who could talk, someone who is a proven manipulator, like orton, Ventura, or Mcmahon. Have Cena chase sheamus for a while. Or after Shemus wins have Cena go away for a month in shame because he had lost to someone like sheamus. It could be a Rocky 3 type scenario. Yeah, I know.
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Post by machomuta on Nov 24, 2009 15:06:20 GMT -5
Voted for Sheamus.
Why is Christian and Kofi Kingston on the list?
They are allready getting a push.
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Post by psychokiller on Nov 24, 2009 18:58:44 GMT -5
Well lets see...
Sheamus- I don't have a problem with him getting a push at all since it's good someone new is getting a chance, just I think it might be too soon since he's definetely losing to Cena at TLC. I just hope the match goes on for 20-25mins so he won't be made into a joke already.
Christian- I can't buy him as a legit main eventer. When he was in TNA as world champ I thought it was awful. I like Christian just I don't think he's main event material.
MVP- They dropped the ball with this guy so bad. He had the makings of a huge star when he was on Smackdown as a heel. They turned him into a huge joke since he been on Raw. He needs to return to Smackdown as a heel again before it's too late.
Kofi Kingston- I like what they've done with him lately since he cut that promo a few weeks ago on Raw on top of the racecar. He can cut a good promo, and im shocked about that. I never thought he'd be good on the mic like he is since he never really cut any promos at all until recently. So I wouldn't mind really if he does get a push to the next level eventually. Only thing about him though is that he's pretty short in size to be a main eventer. He's a pretty good wrestler though and could actually cut a promo, so I wouldn't mind if he makes it to the main event level eventually.
The Miz- I think they should continue what they are doing with him for now. Keep him as the U.S. champ for another year or so, then maybe win the Royal Rumble in 2011. If he can accomplish all of that then he would definetely be seen as a legit main eventer. That's what I would do with him at least.
John Morrison- I think they should wait another year or so to with Morrison to see if he improves on the mic. He's an excellent wrestler, just his promo skills aren't that great to me. I do see them giving him the title eventually though.
Dolph Ziggler- I like him, just he hasn't really done much to get a push yet. He loses way too much. They need to give him the IC Title eventually if they want to push this guy to the next level. He's had so many title shots and he loses all of them, so I don't know what they'll do with him yet.
Drew Mcintyre- Ehhh, he hasn't done anything at all yet to deserve a shot at the world title. So a definite no for him.
R-Truth- He has great charisma and hes a decent wrestler just he hasn't been used right at all since he been brought back to WWE. If they want him to look like a legit contender he needs to be put in some good fueds and get some big wins. As of now he hasn't done a thing to get a main event push.
Jack Swagger- He been jobbing way too much lately. I think this guy would be a future main eventer if given the chance. They just haven't done anything with him lately and I have no idea why. I hope they start using him right soon before they miss a good opportunity with him, then TNA will just pick him up for sure.
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Post by Chiral on Nov 24, 2009 19:22:33 GMT -5
I'd rather Sheamus be hotshotted into TLC rather than Kofi's first big PPV world title shot be wasted on a C-Level show. Kofi and Christian are getting pushed fine, just look at Survivor Series. I think a slow build to the title is better rather than just putting Kofi in a world title match now.
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Post by mainsupreme on Nov 24, 2009 19:50:10 GMT -5
I really like how Sheamus is getting push but I would've given The Miz or Christian instead though. something like this, though Christian and the Miz have a (THE SAME!) history with Cena
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Post by Dr. T is an alien on Nov 24, 2009 22:04:11 GMT -5
Yeah, The Miz. Sheamus is too early and it's not like with Brock Lesnar where there's a chance he'll win. That, and Lesner had already beaten both Hardy's, RVD, and Benoit, amongst others, before taking on the Rock. There is a huge difference between the two. It is even worse since apparently history on ECW does not count (they called Sheamus undefeated, when both Golddust and Shelton have wins over him in ECW). That means the build up for Sheamus is Jamie Noble, a few jobbers, and sneak attacking a few ring crew and Lawler before winning the title shot.
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Post by Crazy Diamond on Nov 24, 2009 22:38:59 GMT -5
Sheamus is boring and I do not understand why they have decided to push him ahead of people like MVP. I would have picked MVP but they would have to actually build up his credibility and I don't see that happening any time soon if ever so I would push Christian. People care about him, he's talented, and he has charisma. He looks weird with blond hair though.
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Post by MichaelMartini on Nov 24, 2009 22:51:56 GMT -5
Christian is already main event in my book. ECW has been built around him for the better part of a year now. At Survivor Series he took out both members of Priceless and had Orton too if Punk hadn't made the save.
I'm glad they gave it to Shaemus but Swagger deserves it more since he's been around longer. Bad timing though since he's been floundering in a mid card filler role while Shaemus is getting the monster push. I'm sure his time will come. Maybe as a face?
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