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Post by BRV on Jan 8, 2010 15:18:02 GMT -5
Most of the ESPN crowd believe that the Seahawks will actually go after USC head coach Pete Carroll. Because nothing screams "success as an NFL head coach" like a 31-33 record.
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Post by Insomniac on Jan 8, 2010 15:23:07 GMT -5
That would be a smart move by Carroll. Whenever you have a chance to leave a comfortable job at a high-profile southern California university where you're treated like a king, and move up to Washington state so you can settle into mediocrity, you take it.
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Post by brettappedout (BLM) on Jan 8, 2010 16:04:56 GMT -5
Chris Mortenson on NFL Live on Pete Carroll: It would now be a surprise if he didn't take the job/ if this didn't happen.
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Post by The Genesis of KoOS on Jan 8, 2010 16:05:53 GMT -5
There is a rumor that Jeff Fisher could become the next head coach of the Cowboys if Jerry fires Wade Phillips.
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Post by Drillbit Taylor on Jan 8, 2010 16:11:53 GMT -5
Most of the ESPN crowd believe that the Seahawks will actually go after USC head coach Pete Carroll. Because nothing screams "success as an NFL head coach" like a 31-33 record. He is considered successful... for the team his on with that record.
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Post by EZ: Brainy Bae on Jan 8, 2010 16:53:44 GMT -5
I'll never support another NFL team besides Oakland, but if Al Davis fires Tom Cable (which is extremely likely, though not a sure thing) then it's just one step closer to just me not giving a crap anymore about this franchise. Which is pretty sad considering Tom Cable is not a very good coach, but he's not an idiot either. He understands how a team is supposed to function and that it's supposed to begin with the trenches and stability, but he has no (influental) say in personnel decisions. He's aware of our defensive issues, but he and John Marshall are hardly ever allowed to blitz or mix up thing defensively. He understands that Russell is a colossal bust and how much better the team plays without him. And yet he may very well end up being fired because he clearly didn't want to keep playing Jamarcus for weeks, when just moving forward from him would be the best thing for this team.
He is not without his faults. He's not a very good playcaller (and has expressed openness to bringing an offensive coordinator to manage those duties if he stays), he couldn't commit to the run in half our games despite having a trio of Michael Bush, Darren McFadden and Justin Fargas. He's basically a very poor man's version of Andy Reid. Not to mention the Randy Hanson/abuse allegations.
That said, all the players have stood up for Cable this last week when asked if he should return. Robert Gallery, Nnamndi Asomugha, Richard Seymour, Zach Miller and every other player backs Cable and says he should be given a fair shake for another year. If there is one thing I like about Cable, it's that he's a great motivator and the team plays hard for him. We were far more competitive when Gradowski and Frye came in, and it's not a coincidence. Cable knows this is a QB-driven league and as the games against the Bengals, Steelers and Broncos showed, when you have good (or even decent) quarterback play even the Raiders can be competitive.
But it's harder and harder to care about what goes in with Al Davis land. He has goons like John Herrera working for him who badmouth Rich Gannon when he's giving honest critiques, or like recently, offers to help in the organization. He drafts players on measurable and potentials instead of whether they can produce in the system or improve a need. He handicaps his coaches gameplans and schemes, and when Russell went off to Vegas he obviously lied and said he was there with a "team official" for damage control. When John Gruden started getting credit for turning this team around in the 2000's, Davis traded him away for not having HIM being the reason for success. If Cable is let go to only start over again I'll strongly consider just not even bothering to care about the team, as it'd be a waste of my team. It's not like St. Louis or Detroit where ownership could change, GM's can come and go and coaches are allowed to do as they please. As long as Al Davis had the final say this team will never be seriously competitive.
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Post by The Line on Jan 8, 2010 17:41:54 GMT -5
I am glad Mora is gone. So glad.
On paper, you can say that Seattle was a team hurt by injuries, and it wasn't his fault. But even with a healthy team, Seattle would be LUCKY to go 7-9. Mora may hold the title of most ass-backwards playcalling. I wouldn't mind maybe seeing Mora in a non-head coaching role, but he just didn't cut it.
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Post by RI Richmark on Jan 8, 2010 17:50:41 GMT -5
Most of the ESPN crowd believe that the Seahawks will actually go after USC head coach Pete Carroll. Because nothing screams "success as an NFL head coach" like a 31-33 record. Here's all you need to know about Pete Carroll as an NFL head coach. Back in his Boston Sports Guy days, Bill Simmons nicknamed Carroll "Fredo" because Carroll showed why Fredo was never named head of the Corleone Family. Stay in school, Pete.
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Post by LONG ISLAND's OWN vinnypic on Jan 8, 2010 18:15:37 GMT -5
Pete Carroll is leaving USC because THE HAMMER is coming down. Massive ethical violations are going to resulted in The Trojans being a burnt husk of the superpower they were going into this season. He's a scummer.
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Post by EZ: Brainy Bae on Jan 8, 2010 18:37:41 GMT -5
Like I said in the NCAA thread, Carroll was average as an NFL coach, not bad. Maybe he feels he's learned enough to make an impact on the professional level and prove himself. If he does well then he could be a force, and if he's mediocre then he'll just return to college ball and build another dynasty elsewhere. Either way he's set.
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Post by LONG ISLAND's OWN vinnypic on Jan 8, 2010 18:43:04 GMT -5
He's not the kind of person I'd want associated with my organization.
He's sleazy.
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Post by MGH on Jan 8, 2010 18:56:08 GMT -5
I have to agree that Carroll is leaving because he's heard the hammer is going to come down on USC in a catastrophic way. He's always wanted to stick around there no matter what when they were going to national title games and constantly had the most talented teams in America. If they're going to end up getting purged like it's beginning to sound, he's getting while the getting is good.
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Post by Steveweiser on Jan 8, 2010 19:12:22 GMT -5
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Post by andrew8798 on Jan 8, 2010 20:06:02 GMT -5
In addition to Jeremy Bates, SI.com's Don Banks calls UCLA offensive coordinator Norm Chow a candidate for the same position in Seattle should the Seahawks hire Pete Carroll as head coach.
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Post by andrew8798 on Jan 8, 2010 20:06:28 GMT -5
The NFL has selected 17 finalists to make the Hall of Fame in 2010, with possible first-ballot entrants Jerry Rice, Emmitt Smith and Tim Brown among them.
The field is rounded out by Cris Carter (a fairly surprising 2009 snub), Russ Grimm, Richard Dent, Roger Craig, Charles Haley, Dermonti Dawson, Cortez Kennedy, Rickey Jackson, Shannon Sharpe, Andre Reed, Floyd Little, John Randle, Don Coryell, and Dick LeBeau. Between four and seven of them will be elected on February 6. Rice and Smith are the obvious shoe-ins.
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Post by stealthamo on Jan 8, 2010 20:35:28 GMT -5
The NFL has selected 17 finalists to make the Hall of Fame in 2010, with possible first-ballot entrants Jerry Rice, Emmitt Smith and Tim Brown among them. The field is rounded out by Cris Carter (a fairly surprising 2009 snub), Russ Grimm, Richard Dent, Roger Craig, Charles Haley, Dermonti Dawson, Cortez Kennedy, Rickey Jackson, Shannon Sharpe, Andre Reed, Floyd Little, John Randle, Don Coryell, and Dick LeBeau. Between four and seven of them will be elected on February 6. Rice and Smith are the obvious shoe-ins. And once again, no Ray Guy. Of course.
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Post by andrew8798 on Jan 8, 2010 20:45:10 GMT -5
KTLA says Carroll has accepted an offer from the Seahawks for 7 million a year, for five years
In addition to the money they're paying Carrol, the Seahawks still owe Mora $12 million over the next 3 years.
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Post by andrew8798 on Jan 8, 2010 21:40:18 GMT -5
NFL.com's Jason La Canfora reports that Anquan Boldin (ankle, knee) is "highly, highly unlikely" to play Sunday against Green Bay.
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Post by Mayonnaise on Jan 8, 2010 21:43:30 GMT -5
The field is rounded out by Cris Carter (a fairly surprising 2009 snub), Russ Grimm, Richard Dent, Roger Craig, Charles Haley, Dermonti Dawson, Cortez Kennedy, Rickey Jackson, Shannon Sharpe, Andre Reed, Floyd Little, John Randle, Don Coryell, and Dick LeBeau. Between four and seven of them will be elected on February 6. Rice and Smith are the obvious shoe-ins. Russ Grimm Richard Dent Shannon Sharpe Jerry Rice Emmitt Smith That would be my class of 2010
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Post by Mr. Backlund on Jan 8, 2010 22:02:51 GMT -5
Quite a bit of revisionist history on Pete Carroll.
I personally can't stand the guy, but his tenure in New England ended suspiciously like Bill Parcells; namely in the middle of a controversy with management and the front office being meddling and poor drafting/moves in free agency (que Parcell's "Groceries" presser). He got the team to the playoffs twice and had a bad year, but the relationship with the FO was not getting repaired at that point in time. He finished 33-31, nothing amazing, but he wasn't as bas as it seems to be made out to be.
To be blunt, the Patriots had a subpar (at best) front office at that time and Bob Kraft behaved like Dan Snyder at times. They chased coaches away who wanted a hand in personnel decisions (or the ability to not conform to what the FO wanted as far as roster goes) until they hit a home run with the Pioli/Belichick combo. This isn't Bobby Petrino, although it certainly isn't Vince Lombardi.
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