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Post by Hanz Moleman on Dec 29, 2009 13:14:51 GMT -5
Well played, although one they could point to verifiable evidence of his credentials, whereas the other, they can't. That is, unless they do some video evidence to place Sheamus into the Highlander movies and show him bicycle kicking people's heads off of their shoulders. Actually, that might work. I really wish WWE would acknowledge Sheamus' European fed experience. I think itd give him some credibility in the "oh, this guy has wrestled a bunch, hes no green leaf" kinda thing.
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Post by angryfan on Dec 29, 2009 13:17:23 GMT -5
Well played, although one they could point to verifiable evidence of his credentials, whereas the other, they can't. That is, unless they do some video evidence to place Sheamus into the Highlander movies and show him bicycle kicking people's heads off of their shoulders. Actually, that might work. I really wish WWE would acknowledge Sheamus' European fed experience. I think itd give him some credibility in the "oh, this guy has wrestled a bunch, hes no green leaf" kinda thing. Same could be said for a certain former pirate, though. Imagine the reception Burchill wioudl've received if they'd introduced him with a few of Burchill's Monster Moments from FWA?
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Post by Avalanche Alvarez on Dec 29, 2009 13:18:27 GMT -5
No selling a table? I don't remember anyone ever doing that. Tables are like hot lava. You've gotta get hurt by 'em. Un hunh ya do.
So he's gonna lose the title back to Cena, is he now? When Cena gets beat two times in a row by his challenger, that's usually what that means.
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Post by YellowJacketY2J on Dec 29, 2009 13:19:51 GMT -5
I wasn't happy that the WWE Championship match was short, but I thought they handled it well. Even Lawler stated that it seemed as if Sheamus didn't intentionally get disqualified, but was just looking for a way to escape the Attitude Adjustment (which doesn't make him look weak since every wrestler tries to avoid their opponent's finisher.
Having Sheamus then take down Cena after the match made him look strong. Cena had a full head of steam, went after Sheamus, only to be met with a bicycle kick. After that, Sheamus proved his dominance by once again hitting Cena with a bicycle kick. He then stood tall over Cena, accomplishing what he said he would do.
Sheamus was built to look strong last night.
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Post by Avalanche Alvarez on Dec 29, 2009 13:23:09 GMT -5
I wasn't happy that the WWE Championship match was short, but I thought they handled it well. Even Lawler stated that it seemed as if Sheamus didn't intentionally get disqualified, but was just looking for a way to escape the Attitude Adjustment (which doesn't make him look weak since every wrestler tries to avoid their opponent's finisher. Having Sheamus then take down Cena after the match made him look strong. Cena had a full head of steam, went after Sheamus, only to be met with a bicycle kick. After that, Sheamus proved his dominance by once again hitting Cena with a bicycle kick. He then stood tall over Cena, accomplishing what he said he would do. Sheamus was built to look strong last night. ...you think he'll retain the title in their next match?
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Post by Cry Me a Wiggle on Dec 29, 2009 13:30:39 GMT -5
They're not screwing up Sheamus, but I'd wager that Sheamus is screwing someone up... somewhere. Come on. "We're workout buddies" is clearly code.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 29, 2009 13:35:13 GMT -5
They're not screwing up Sheamus, but I think they're doing a more balanced version of what they were doing with Miz not all too long ago.
Truth (or Troof, if your name is Ron Killings) is, Sheamus was barely getting anything close to a reaction when he showed up on Raw. No, demolishing Jamie Noble didn't help, nor did anything up until the first time he beat Cena down and started talking some more. After that, he's been getting a much more reliable crowd reaction. I think WWE wants to capitalize on that like they did with Miz--even though Miz got destroyed by Cena in the feud, it REALLY helped him get over as a heel and now he's holding a singles title, not to mention that the crowd regularly eats from the palms of his hands. Can they be fully successful doing this with Sheamus? I think they will, and I think it's going to really pay off.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 29, 2009 13:41:01 GMT -5
WWE isn't screwing up Sheamus - Sheamus is screwing up RAW.
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Post by YellowJacketY2J on Dec 29, 2009 13:43:12 GMT -5
I wasn't happy that the WWE Championship match was short, but I thought they handled it well. Even Lawler stated that it seemed as if Sheamus didn't intentionally get disqualified, but was just looking for a way to escape the Attitude Adjustment (which doesn't make him look weak since every wrestler tries to avoid their opponent's finisher. Having Sheamus then take down Cena after the match made him look strong. Cena had a full head of steam, went after Sheamus, only to be met with a bicycle kick. After that, Sheamus proved his dominance by once again hitting Cena with a bicycle kick. He then stood tall over Cena, accomplishing what he said he would do. Sheamus was built to look strong last night. ...you think he'll retain the title in their next match? Honestly, it's hard to predict. Signs may point to Cena winning it back. But, signs pointed towards Cena retaining at TLC. WWE seems to be taking Sheamus as a top player seriously, and I can't tell if they're going to make him drop the belt at the Rumble. In closing, I see Sheamus retaining at the Rumble and losing it at Elimination Chamber.
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Post by wrestlecrapcrap on Dec 29, 2009 13:47:13 GMT -5
I wasn't happy that the WWE Championship match was short, but I thought they handled it well. Even Lawler stated that it seemed as if Sheamus didn't intentionally get disqualified, but was just looking for a way to escape the Attitude Adjustment (which doesn't make him look weak since every wrestler tries to avoid their opponent's finisher. Having Sheamus then take down Cena after the match made him look strong. Cena had a full head of steam, went after Sheamus, only to be met with a bicycle kick. After that, Sheamus proved his dominance by once again hitting Cena with a bicycle kick. He then stood tall over Cena, accomplishing what he said he would do. Sheamus was built to look strong last night. ...you think he'll retain the title in their next match? I wouldn't be surprised if Sheamus holds it until the Chamber and drops it there. Cena said he wouldn't lose a match until he got the title, and although some people are saying this just means he will definately will, maybe Cena loses due to distraction at the Rumble, causing him to snap because of the failed promises he keeps giving his fans. Then Orton can win in the chamber, and drop to Kofi, while Cena can face Taker. Even if he does lose though, it doesn't really matter too much. People said when the match was announced with Cena the first time, 'he's just a monster to be fed to Cena, he'll lose his momentum and drop to the mid-card' but then he won, then it was 'He'll just lose to Cena on Raw, lose his momentum and drop to the mid-card', but he's still champion and got to beat Cena down and stand tall. If he loses at the Rumble, it wouldn't be terrible for his career. He's had a world title, he's getting a good reaction from the crowd, and done what other guys that were supposed to be 'monsters fed to Cena' (not that I think he is a monster) couldn't do, in that he actually took Cena's title. Yeah he didn't pin him, but Cena didn't manage to put him through a table either, and the whole story was that Cena underestimated him. Sheamus will come out of this having done well. It's clear they like him anyway, so he'll get opportunities again in the future.
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Post by Back to being Cenanuff on Dec 29, 2009 15:04:47 GMT -5
Well played, although one they could point to verifiable evidence of his credentials, whereas the other, they can't. That is, unless they do some video evidence to place Sheamus into the Highlander movies and show him bicycle kicking people's heads off of their shoulders. Actually, that might work. Dude, I'd watch that movie even if the SciFi SyFy channel made it. "There can be only one, fella."
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Post by drjayphd (feat. Pitbull) on Dec 29, 2009 16:11:16 GMT -5
Well played, although one they could point to verifiable evidence of his credentials, whereas the other, they can't. That is, unless they do some video evidence to place Sheamus into the Highlander movies and show him bicycle kicking people's heads off of their shoulders. Actually, that might work. Dude, I'd watch that movie even if the SciFi SyFy channel made it. "There can be only one, fella." Granted, but it'll be the long-awaited crossover Ice Spiders vs. Carnosaur.
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Post by Mozenrath on Dec 29, 2009 16:27:28 GMT -5
He beat down Cena at the end of the show! I'd say that made him look strong. Exactly. He pretty much rolled right out of being pummeled and laid Cena out. He also got to knock Cena flat on his ass before after Cena laid him through the table, so I think if anything, it shows Cena would have to manage more than that to take him out in any real capacity. I like this feud. It's reminiscent of Edge, but considering Edge was possibly Cena's best feud, this isn't a bad thing.
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Post by derrtaysouth95 on Dec 29, 2009 17:08:05 GMT -5
I think they are doing fine so far.
Sheamus hasn't done/lost anything that makes me think it won't work out.
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Post by rrm15 on Dec 29, 2009 18:21:45 GMT -5
It seems to me like they don't know what KIND of heel Sheamus is, and its really annoying?
Is he a monster, unstoppable heel?
Is he a cocky arrogant heel?
Is he a cowardly, trash talking heel?
They've kind of been doing all three at the same time and its really weird. I don't know what to make of him.
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Post by Mozenrath on Dec 29, 2009 18:26:03 GMT -5
It seems to me like they don't know what KIND of heel Sheamus is, and its really annoying? Is he a monster, unstoppable heel? Is he a cocky arrogant heel? Is he a cowardly, trash talking heel? They've kind of been doing all three at the same time and its really weird. I don't know what to make of him. I'd say he's sneaky, but I don't think they've made him out to be a coward. He'll fight Cena, but he isn't about to give the belt up if he can help it.
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Post by wrestlecrapcrap on Dec 29, 2009 18:33:09 GMT -5
It seems to me like they don't know what KIND of heel Sheamus is, and its really annoying? Is he a monster, unstoppable heel? Is he a cocky arrogant heel? Is he a cowardly, trash talking heel? They've kind of been doing all three at the same time and its really weird. I don't know what to make of him. I'd say he's sneaky, but I don't think they've made him out to be a coward. He'll fight Cena, but he isn't about to give the belt up if he can help it. Yeah, it isn't like with Orton where they really do switch from credible, sociopathic monster to cowardly chicken crap heel on a weekly basis. Sheamus is quite consistent in that he'll beat you up, just on his terms. I think in WWE we are always going to see the heels be slightly cowardly. Even Batista - who I think is going to be a heel that will be as strong as we will see in WWE - walks away from fights on occasion. As long as they let some heels be credible when a fight actually does happen, then it's fine. I can see why they do it, since if you have guys like Sheamus or Batista not be afraid of fights, and actually be credible when they are in them...then there's not much keeping them heel. I guess it's why they cut the legs from underneath Orton. He kicks Vince, he's unpredictable, he's a leader, he has compassion for his friends, he can get it done in the ring...what's not to like? Just shows they need to have some 'cowardly' elements in their heels, because if not, the alternative is that their money making face doesn't make as much money.
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Post by Mac on Dec 29, 2009 18:51:33 GMT -5
I'd agree if Cena had dragged him back into the ring and beaten the crap out of him. But I think it was a 50/50 split when they went off the air.
Although I have almost zero interest in a guy whos been pushed as a legit superstar for 2 months as world champ right now I certainly wouldnt say they're screwing up his run. It hasnt been great, but I dont think hes damaged goods when he drops the title back in a month or so.
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Post by skiller on Dec 29, 2009 19:27:20 GMT -5
They're screwing him by not giving him a last name.
Or is he missing a first name? I have no idea.
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Post by Dean-o on Dec 29, 2009 19:37:46 GMT -5
I wasn't happy that the WWE Championship match was short, but I thought they handled it well. Even Lawler stated that it seemed as if Sheamus didn't intentionally get disqualified, but was just looking for a way to escape the Attitude Adjustment (which doesn't make him look weak since every wrestler tries to avoid their opponent's finisher. Having Sheamus then take down Cena after the match made him look strong. Cena had a full head of steam, went after Sheamus, only to be met with a bicycle kick. After that, Sheamus proved his dominance by once again hitting Cena with a bicycle kick. He then stood tall over Cena, accomplishing what he said he would do. Sheamus was built to look strong last night. If it wasn't for Sheamus pulling the ref, he would have been the victim of the AA and most likely lost the World Title in another classic 3 minute Raw main event. That shows it's not a matter of if Cena can beat Sheamus, it's when.
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