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Post by CrazySting on Nov 4, 2009 18:11:27 GMT -5
GN: When you say you went down the tubes, how did it all go so wrong so quickly? HH: For a while it seemed like just when things had become the worst they could possibly be, something else would happen. Perfect example is when the prison tapes between me and my son were released. I mean, we knew that they were recording our conversation for security purposes, but no one ever said they were going to be released for public consumption. You never hear the OJ tapes or the Paris Hilton tapes, but suddenly our conversation was being replayed every two minutes and everyone wanted to talk about it and point fingers about what we were talking about. The bottom line with that was that those conversations were about me trying to talk to my son who was sitting in solitary confinement - where most people don't last even three days but he stayed for 28 days - and trying to keep him from doing something like biting his own tongue off or eating his own feces in that cell. So I was saying things like, "Hey brother, we're going to go to the beach when you get out and maybe we'll do a reality show," and talking to him about the laws of attraction. And then we got to talking about John, the kid in the accident. I mean, he lived with us and we loved him, but he had problems. He treated gay people a certain way. He treated black people a certain way. We were trying to straighten him out, and I was trying to tell Nick that God must have laid some heavy stuff down because of all that other stuff and then that all got turned around on me. That's why I finally decided to just sit down and write this book so I could just tell you everything without holding back. Period. blogs.citypages.com/gimmenoise/2009/11/hulkamania_inva.php I suspect come trial time the Hogan's will be forced to pay serious $$$$$... partly because they came off as such uncaring assholes. |
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Post by Solid Stryk-Dizzle on Nov 4, 2009 18:17:29 GMT -5
TNA! TNA! TNA! TNA!
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Post by MolotovMocktail on Nov 4, 2009 18:24:14 GMT -5
Nah, Graziano assumed the risk once he got into the car, and was at least partially at fault for not wearing a seat belt. If these facts aren't a complete bar to recovery, they will at least seriously reduce what his family can collect.
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Post by BD Punk AKA SUSPENDED! on Nov 4, 2009 19:15:39 GMT -5
No one deserves what happened to Graziano. Nick could very easily be laying a a hospital bed next to him right now in the same condition.
Bottom line is both guys acted stupidly, John by not wearing his seat belt (I think Nick was) and Nick by drving at a dangerous speed and both paid a steep price.
The Hulkster should be thanking his lucky stars that Nick is OK and lay off John Graziano.
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Post by Black Swagger on Nov 4, 2009 19:19:11 GMT -5
Hogan is awesome, but at times I wish he would just as they used to say around my way (as a way to get around swearing) "Shut the Front Door". As BD Punk said above me, Hogan should be happy that his son wasn't seriously injured like his friend was who will never EVER be the same again.
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Post by Richard on Nov 4, 2009 19:22:24 GMT -5
Nah, Graziano assumed the risk once he got into the car, and was at least partially at fault for not wearing a seat belt. If these facts aren't a complete bar to recovery, they will at least seriously reduce what his family can collect. You would be surprised. Plus the driver assumes responsibility for their passenger as well, so Nick shoulders some of the blame for him not wearing a seat belt. |
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Post by bob on Nov 4, 2009 19:25:39 GMT -5
Nah, Graziano assumed the risk once he got into the car, and was at least partially at fault for not wearing a seat belt. If these facts aren't a complete bar to recovery, they will at least seriously reduce what his family can collect. You would be surprised. Plus the driver assumes responsibility for their passenger as well, so Nick shoulders some of the blame for him not wearing a seat belt. either way Hogan comes off as a giant douche |
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Post by Brandon Walsh is Insane. on Nov 4, 2009 19:30:38 GMT -5
You would be surprised. Plus the driver assumes responsibility for their passenger as well, so Nick shoulders some of the blame for him not wearing a seat belt. either way Hogan comes off as a giant douche Eh, I figure so many people are asking him about it, that he just gets tired of responding, leading him to answer questions in a way that is not 'politically correct.' He's going to be liable in the long run, and the whole ordeal interrupted his life in a way that he has to work hard to get back to where he was before it happened. I can easily see him being annoyed by the constant questioning. |
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Post by Big BosskMan on Nov 4, 2009 21:23:04 GMT -5
Nah, Graziano assumed the risk once he got into the car, and was at least partially at fault for not wearing a seat belt. If these facts aren't a complete bar to recovery, they will at least seriously reduce what his family can collect. A complete barrier to recovery? Um, half of Graziano's head is missing. Link (note: NOT for faint of heart): www.wwtdd.com/photo.phtml?post_key=7091&photo_key=17371There's no amount of money to ever restore what Graziano and his family have lost. The fact that Hogan continues to believe and act like this accident was somehow God's judgement on Graziano or an indictment of his character is the definition of ignorance. The bottom line is that Hulk and his ilk have acted like total shitheels in this tragedy and I hope they get squeezed for every penny they own. |
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Post by Kevin Hamilton on Nov 4, 2009 21:43:46 GMT -5
The kid's brain dead Hulkster, leave him be.
A terse, " That was a rough situation for all of us, just a terrible thing that happened. " something like that would be fine if he's asked those questions.
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Post by kolani on Nov 5, 2009 1:34:11 GMT -5
Nah, Graziano assumed the risk once he got into the car, and was at least partially at fault for not wearing a seat belt. If these facts aren't a complete bar to recovery, they will at least seriously reduce what his family can collect. A complete barrier to recovery? Um, half of Graziano's head is missing. Link (note: NOT for faint of heart): www.wwtdd.com/photo.phtml?post_key=7091&photo_key=17371There's no amount of money to ever restore what Graziano and his family have lost. The fact that Hogan continues to believe and act like this accident was somehow God's judgement on Graziano or an indictment of his character is the definition of ignorance. The bottom line is that Hulk and his ilk have acted like total s***heels in this tragedy and I hope they get squeezed for every penny they own. I think he's referring to recovery in the terms of recovery for injuries, monetary compensation through the legal system, not Graziano ever getting better. |
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Post by Bubble Lead on Nov 5, 2009 1:50:35 GMT -5
Yeah because its TNAs fault Hogan is a douchebag! He has been one his whole life, its not like it was gonna change now. |
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Post by Perigryn on Nov 5, 2009 2:42:02 GMT -5
Yeah because its TNAs fault Hogan is a douchebag! He has been one his whole life, its not like it was gonna change now. I think he might have meant that TNA's gonna have quite a few PR problems if Hogan keeps running his mouth like this but not do anything about it since they need him for publicity, which reflects badly on the company as a whole. |
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Post by Seth Drakin of Monster Crap on Nov 5, 2009 2:48:04 GMT -5
Just so you know TNA, this is the guy you have banked on.
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Post by MolotovMocktail on Nov 5, 2009 4:13:08 GMT -5
A complete barrier to recovery? Um, half of Graziano's head is missing. Link (note: NOT for faint of heart): www.wwtdd.com/photo.phtml?post_key=7091&photo_key=17371There's no amount of money to ever restore what Graziano and his family have lost. The fact that Hogan continues to believe and act like this accident was somehow God's judgement on Graziano or an indictment of his character is the definition of ignorance. The bottom line is that Hulk and his ilk have acted like total s***heels in this tragedy and I hope they get squeezed for every penny they own. I think he's referring to recovery in the terms of recovery for injuries, monetary compensation through the legal system, not Graziano ever getting better. The legal aspect is indeed what I was talking about. I am a lawyer, and have studied defenses such as assumption of the risk and contributory negligence. In some jurisdictions, they preclude the plaintiff from recovering anything, while in others, they calculate the percentage the plaintiff was at fault, and award him the rest that can be chalked up to the defendant. |
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Post by Ryushinku on Nov 5, 2009 4:26:59 GMT -5
The bottom line with that was that those conversations were about me trying to talk to my son who was sitting in solitary confinement - where most people don't last even three days but he stayed for 28 days - He actually lasted for 128 days...watched by 10,000 prisoners, too. |
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Post by Solid Stryk-Dizzle on Nov 5, 2009 7:19:29 GMT -5
Yeah because its TNAs fault Hogan is a douchebag! He has been one his whole life, its not like it was gonna change now. I think he might have meant that TNA's gonna have quite a few PR problems if Hogan keeps running his mouth like this but not do anything about it since they need him for publicity, which reflects badly on the company as a whole. Exactly. No need to get all butthurt. |
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Post by dsriggs on Nov 5, 2009 7:47:36 GMT -5
So, while Hogan's not wrestling, he's keeping his burying skills sharp by attacking a guy with half his head missing who can't possibly fight back??
HE IS A REAL AMERICAN!!
FIGHT FOR THE RIGHTS OF EVERY MAN!!
HE IS A REAL AMERICAN!!
FIGHT FOR WHAT'S RIGHT! FIGHT FOR YOUR LIIIIFE!!
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Post by Bub (BLM) on Nov 5, 2009 7:50:20 GMT -5
The fact of the matter is that Hogan is only partially wrong. Yeah, he should stop trying to pass the buck and make Nick seem innocent, but that doesn't change the fact that Nick's friend was the dummy who I'm sure was all for what they were doing that night.
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Post by angryfan on Nov 5, 2009 9:02:07 GMT -5
Nah, Graziano assumed the risk once he got into the car, and was at least partially at fault for not wearing a seat belt. If these facts aren't a complete bar to recovery, they will at least seriously reduce what his family can collect. You would be surprised. Plus the driver assumes responsibility for their passenger as well, so Nick shoulders some of the blame for him not wearing a seat belt. Here are the questions that will be hampered on since both Nick and Graziano were juveniles (correct me if I'm wrong on the juvi thing, but they were not legally old enough to drink). THe car was Hulk's, the booze was bought, on camera, but Hulk, Hulk gave them the beer and the keys to said car knowing Nick's well-documented history of wreckless driving and speeding. The plaintiff's attorneys prove those points and they win. |
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