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Post by pegasuswarrior on Feb 25, 2010 0:13:37 GMT -5
Amelia, Flash of Genius, The Soloist, Public Enemies(well...I disliked it), The Informant!, Valkyrie, Defiance, Into the Wild, Infamous(Capote was WAAAAAAY better), Glory Road, Jarhead, Alexander, and Shattered Glass. You lost me when you said Into the Wild. One of the best films of the last few years IMO. And I'm in the "Public Enemies is fantastic" camp too. And Shattered Glass is a pretty phenomenal screenplay. Can't get behind the Capote praise; Toby Jones more natural in that role; Seymour-Hoffman obviously more "showy" and melodramatic.
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Post by SHAKEMASTER TV9 is Don Knotts on Feb 25, 2010 0:29:05 GMT -5
Cold MountainThe beginning of the end of the famed/despised Miramax "Oscar machine." Didn't help that not even the Weinsteins' bribing could stop ROTK. It did succeed in getting Renee Zellwegger an Oscar for one of the worst performances ever. Ain't no man better than me.
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Post by Widow's Peak on Feb 25, 2010 0:31:52 GMT -5
That's a pretty good choice. What an appallingly dull film. I'd also add Bobby (2006). It was a star-studded ensemble drama about the assassination of Robert Kennedy. Except, that it wasn't really about RFK; RFK was a backdrop for a multi-layer pondering on race relations, gender roles and generational politics. It was basically a total mess. ![](http://condolasa.files.wordpress.com/2009/12/revolutionary-road-poster-full.jpg) Man, how happy I am that the Academy saw right through these two vastly overballyhoed films. Unfortunately, they didn't have the same discretion when it came to nominating The Reader. *shudder*
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Post by toddpolt on Feb 25, 2010 0:40:41 GMT -5
Cold MountainThe beginning of the end of the famed/despised Miramax "Oscar machine." Didn't help that not even the Weinsteins' bribing could stop ROTK. It did succeed in getting Renee Zellwegger an Oscar for one of the worst performances ever. Ain't no man better than me. Her career certainly has gone cold since then. ;D I'd also add Bobby (2006). It was a star-studded ensemble drama about the assassination of Robert Kennedy. Except, that it wasn't really about RFK; RFK was a backdrop for a multi-layer pondering on race relations, gender roles and generational politics. It was basically a total mess. Absolutely. Maybe Weinsteins would have figured it might not work when "From the director of Men At Work comes..."[/i] Still not scared off Hollywood from the topic. They just announced a RFK biopic starring Jason Bourne, from director Gary Ross (Seabiscuit, Pleasantville) In other words, more Oscar bait! (though to be fair, Matt Damon=RFK is pretty good casting but still.) Unfortunately, they didn't have the same discretion when it came to nominating The Reader. *shudder* Boobs.That's what made the difference.
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Post by Cela on Feb 25, 2010 0:45:12 GMT -5
That's a pretty good choice. What an appallingly dull film. I'd also add Bobby (2006). It was a star-studded ensemble drama about the assassination of Robert Kennedy. Except, that it wasn't really about RFK; RFK was a backdrop for a multi-layer pondering on race relations, gender roles and generational politics. It was basically a total mess. ![](http://condolasa.files.wordpress.com/2009/12/revolutionary-road-poster-full.jpg) Man, how happy I am that the Academy saw right through these two vastly overballyhoed films. Unfortunately, they didn't have the same discretion when it came to nominating The Reader. *shudder* What was wrong with The Reader? I'll admit, Rev Road was ...ACT-TING! the movie, but Reader was a thing of beauty.
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Post by comahan on Feb 25, 2010 1:06:52 GMT -5
I really liked The Reader too. It WAS about as Oscar-baity as you can get, but I liked it nonetheless.
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Post by El Cokehead del Knife Fight on Feb 25, 2010 1:25:19 GMT -5
That's a pretty good choice. What an appallingly dull film. Yeah, sorry about that one guys.
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Post by Bravo Echo November on Feb 25, 2010 1:35:23 GMT -5
2/3 of the stuff the Weinstein Company releases.
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Post by Sickfit, King Of The Fits on Feb 25, 2010 2:14:14 GMT -5
Amelia. Amelia. Amelia. Amelia. Notorious. Mommie Dearest. Freedom Writers. El Cantante. Alexander. Patch Adams. Private Parts. Evita. The Babe. Caligula. Pride. And I'm gonna say it only because I know no one else will. Ray was one of the biggest acts of manipulation in film history. Jamie Foxx did not act in the film, he simply did a decent imitation of Ray Charles that he's been milking for years. The fact that they gave the Oscar to him instead of Bruno Ganz in his portrayal of Hitler (HITLER!) in Downfall just goes to show that the Academy are a bunch of pilfering Filistines. I simply refuse to acknowledge Jamie Foxx as the great actor that people make him out to be. I think the only movies I found him half-way decent in were Bait and Collateral. Other than that, he's just a really good imitator. The black Frank Caliendo, if you will. Oh god yes, Bruno Ganz should have gotten the Oscar for his performance in Downfall. But if you really think about it, there have been a lot of snubs throughout the years, which is one of the reasons I no longer watch The Oscars. I could go on and on about s***ty award winners, but it's early and I'm in pain so I would probably write some things I shouldn't. Let it suffice to say that I am one moviegoer (everyone tells me that I watch way too many movies) who doesn't care about The Oscars. Hate to say it, but it and other shows like it are ruled by the politics behind the scenes. I completely agree with you on the Oscars. The only reason I pay attention is to see if they get something right. And also to hold sexy, extravagant Oscar parties. I'm just kidding. I'm too cynical and self-aware to have those.
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Post by AriadosMan on Feb 25, 2010 2:39:33 GMT -5
The possible reason for Reader dislike:
It was the fifth movie that took Dark Knight's slot
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Post by toddpolt on Feb 25, 2010 2:45:47 GMT -5
The possible reason for Reader dislike: It was the fifth movie that took Dark Knight's slot It certainly doesn't help its cause.
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Post by AriadosMan on Feb 25, 2010 3:04:36 GMT -5
The possible reason for Reader dislike: It was the fifth movie that took Dark Knight's slot It certainly doesn't help its cause. And the fact that it had about 60 percent on RT when it got the slot. There were movies that got far better reviews than Reader that didn't get a Best Picture nom (Wall-E is arguably even more glaring than Dark Knight).
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Post by Cela on Feb 25, 2010 3:12:06 GMT -5
It certainly doesn't help its cause. And the fact that it had about 60 percent on RT when it got the slot. There were movies that got far better reviews than Reader that didn't get a Best Picture nom (Wall-E is arguably even more glaring than Dark Knight). Except The Reader was a movie, Wall-E was a glorified weight loss PSA.
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Post by AriadosMan on Feb 25, 2010 3:14:35 GMT -5
And the fact that it had about 60 percent on RT when it got the slot. There were movies that got far better reviews than Reader that didn't get a Best Picture nom (Wall-E is arguably even more glaring than Dark Knight). Except The Reader was a movie, Wall-E was a glorified weight loss PSA. How exactly was The Reader "a movie"? In twenty years, people will only remember it the way they remember The English Patient now (i.e. dislike because of its blatant baitey qualities). And if there's one kind of message the human race needs pounded into its skull at the moment, its weight loss.
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Post by toddpolt on Feb 25, 2010 3:16:33 GMT -5
The Reader got the nom because it wasn't a comic booky movie or a cartoon, neither which ae "legitimate serious Academy material."
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Post by AriadosMan on Feb 25, 2010 3:18:31 GMT -5
The Reader got the nom because it wasn't a comic booky movie or a cartoon, neither which ae "legitimate serious Academy material." Correct answer, but it still smacks of a "what middlebrow movie with serious subject matter can we possibly nom to avoid giving a cartoon the nod? Oh yeah..." decision.
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Post by toddpolt on Feb 25, 2010 3:21:28 GMT -5
Mike - What you expect from the same Academy in 1989 that totally snubbed Do the Right Thing yet gave the Best Picture Oscar to Driving Miss Daisy.
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Post by AriadosMan on Feb 25, 2010 3:25:51 GMT -5
Mike - What you expect from the same Academy in 1989 that totally snubbed Do the Right Thing yet gave the Best Picture Oscar to Driving Miss Daisy. I didn't like that decision either, but point taken. I guess the Academy only cares about filmmakers when they are "establishment" enough for the most part. Although District 9 getting the nod over the "serious" movie about race relations in South Africa for the tenth slot was a rare happy moment.
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Post by toddpolt on Feb 25, 2010 3:51:21 GMT -5
Mike - 1989 really stays in my mind whenever Hollywood pats itself on the back for forward-thinking. I think when push comes to shove, Academy voters go the safe route instead of going bold. Not always, since you're right about District 9...umm...I need a rugby analogy for trashing your opponent. Yeah the Prawns beat up Jason Bourne and Dirty Harry. ![:)](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/smiley.png) Take 1964 for example. You had two "big" hit musicals (relative for ther size) in My Fair Lady and A Hard Day's Night. MFL as a movie is your basic big budget Broadway musical adapted to the big screen you would expect from Hollywood at that time. Big sets, big name actors singing and dancing, bland direction, a contemporary hit musical, all that stuff. MFL won the Best Picture Oscar. ADHN on the other hand, a low budget quickie exploitation vehicle for some greasehair foursome from Liverpool, was quite innovative in filmatics with an improv-heavy collaborative screenplay and of course terrific music. Script and score earned Oscar nods, but no wins. Which movie is still talked about today? Or for that matter at least, which soundtrack do people still listen to? The Oscars - the yearly barometer of how irrelevant the industry is with reality.
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Post by Grendel on Feb 25, 2010 5:56:04 GMT -5
Oh god yes, Bruno Ganz should have gotten the Oscar for his performance in Downfall. But if you really think about it, there have been a lot of snubs throughout the years, which is one of the reasons I no longer watch The Oscars. I could go on and on about s***ty award winners, but it's early and I'm in pain so I would probably write some things I shouldn't. Let it suffice to say that I am one moviegoer (everyone tells me that I watch way too many movies) who doesn't care about The Oscars. Hate to say it, but it and other shows like it are ruled by the politics behind the scenes. I completely agree with you on the Oscars. The only reason I pay attention is to see if they get something right. And also to hold sexy, extravagant Oscar parties. I'm just kidding. I'm too cynical and self-aware to have those. I imagine there are those that do ... Anyway, on one of my blog pages I used to have (before I got bored with the whole thing), I would do my own type of awards deal based solely on which movies entertained me the most. And I would only comment on movies that I had seen that year, and I had some strange categories like most awesome death scene, best come uppance, stuff like that. But I didn't do stuff like the Spike TV Movie Awards, where they would screw up categories. Like having Famke Jansen in the hottest heroine category when she was a villain in X Men: The Last Stand.
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