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Post by Red Impact on Feb 27, 2010 9:40:00 GMT -5
I am still trying to figure out Schindler's list. To my knowledge and recolection I had never heard of it or it's run and yet Best Picture, best screan play yada yada yada Not really failed Oscar bait. Speilberg until Schindler's List was viewed rather distainfully by the academy as he was written off as someone who could only do blockbusters. Everything changed for him after that. I still don't get how Neeson and Fiennes did not win awards though for their performances though. Which is funny, because the same stigma doesn't apply to Cameron, who only does blockbusters.
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Post by Confused Mark Wahlberg on Feb 27, 2010 9:54:01 GMT -5
What about Robin Williams in Jakob the Liar? That had Oscar bait written all over it, IMHO.
Jim Carrey in Man on the Moon as well.
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Post by MCMGM on Feb 28, 2010 6:50:34 GMT -5
I'd also add Bobby (2006). It was a star-studded ensemble drama about the assassination of Robert Kennedy. Except, that it wasn't really about RFK; RFK was a backdrop for a multi-layer pondering on race relations, gender roles and generational politics. It was basically a total mess. Gonna have to disagree on that.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 28, 2010 15:17:50 GMT -5
What about Robin Williams in Jakob the Liar? That had Oscar bait written all over it, IMHO. Jim Carrey in Man on the Moon as well. Jim Carrey deserved a nomination! ![>:(](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/angry.png)
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Post by AriadosMan on Feb 28, 2010 15:49:38 GMT -5
What about Robin Williams in Jakob the Liar? That had Oscar bait written all over it, IMHO. Jim Carrey in Man on the Moon as well. Jim Carrey deserved a nomination! ![>:(](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/angry.png) It had to do with wrestling and nobody's ever gotten an award for the Academy for anything having to do with wrestling.
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Post by Red Impact on Feb 28, 2010 15:49:40 GMT -5
What about Robin Williams in Jakob the Liar? That had Oscar bait written all over it, IMHO. Jim Carrey in Man on the Moon as well. I wouldn't call most acting performances Oscar bait. Actors have every reason to take roles they believe will advance their career, and both those actors had every reason to take more "serious" roles to try to break out of their typecasting.
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Post by AriadosMan on Feb 28, 2010 15:58:49 GMT -5
What about Robin Williams in Jakob the Liar? That had Oscar bait written all over it, IMHO. Jim Carrey in Man on the Moon as well. I wouldn't call most acting performances Oscar bait. Actors have every reason to take roles they believe will advance their career, and both those actors had every reason to take more "serious" roles to try to break out of their typecasting. I would, in the case of Sean Penn in I am Sam. Most performances aren't Oscar bait but certain types of performances definitely seem more geared to it than others.
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Post by Bob Schlapowitz on Feb 28, 2010 16:32:52 GMT -5
Jim Carrey deserved a nomination! ![>:(](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/angry.png) It had to do with wrestling and nobody's ever gotten an award for the Academy for anything having to do with wrestling. But people HAVE gotten nominations from the Academy for things having to do with wrestling.
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Post by AriadosMan on Feb 28, 2010 17:57:50 GMT -5
It had to do with wrestling and nobody's ever gotten an award for the Academy for anything having to do with wrestling. But people HAVE gotten nominations from the Academy for things having to do with wrestling. Doesn't really matter if they don't end up winning. The disrespect/disdain for the subject material is still there.
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Post by comahan on Feb 28, 2010 18:03:06 GMT -5
But people HAVE gotten nominations from the Academy for things having to do with wrestling. Doesn't really matter if they don't end up winning. The disrespect/disdain for the subject material is still there. I think nods are almost as important as wins, personally. At least in every category besides this years best pic. How many worthy wrestling movies/roles have there been though? Rourke got the nod he deserved, and got beat by Penn (equally deserving, both were great)
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Post by Jay Peas 42 on Feb 28, 2010 18:30:43 GMT -5
I think "Precious: Based on the Novel "Push" by Sapphire" is the best example. How did it fail if got nominated for best picture, best actress and best supporting actress? I'm sorry, I forgot about the failed part by this point in the discussion. It is Oscar bait, but if it is a sucess or failure is still unwritten.
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Post by Jedi-El of Tomorrow on Mar 1, 2010 6:17:42 GMT -5
Remember, people were extremely pissed that the previous films won crap all. If the best one of them all didn't win anything well then.... I thought The Two Towers was the best of the three and should have won Oscars. But since they were movies coming out every year, I figure the Academy waited until the last one was out before giving out the big award. And in the process of waiting to award the last movie, they f***ed over Andy Serkis as Gollum in Two Towers.
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Post by ThereIsNoAbsurdistOnlyZuul on Mar 5, 2010 22:04:10 GMT -5
Amelia, Flash of Genius, The Soloist, Public Enemies(well...I disliked it), The Informant!, Valkyrie, Defiance, Into the Wild, Infamous(Capote was WAAAAAAY better), Glory Road, Jarhead, Alexander, and Shattered Glass(interestingly, despite totally sucking, it had the best performance Hayden Christensen has ever given in his career...and his performance still sucked). That's just to name a few. And a good chunk of those films were being hoped by their studios to be Oscar winners. Some of them, like Flash of Genius shouldn't have even been made in the first place. Honestly you can argue that anything put out in November and December is Oscar Bait. I agree that Biopics are essentially bait, but they can rise above it. However Jarhead, and it's lack of heavy handed emotional manipulation removes it from normal Oscar Bait contendership. And really it is comparable to Hurt Locker, if aiming for a Ground Level view of war. Should it have gotten nommed? I think not. It doesn't feel like a normal "Best Picture" nod. It wasn't a stellar movie, though I consider it one of the best that year for being better than the sum of it's parts. I liked both Infamous and Capote, because both had brilliant performances in their main role. But their subject matter really would lead them be Bait. I was okay with Public Enemies, but it's release date knocks it out of Oscar Bait contention. The Informant! is a great true story to tell, and I enjoyed it, in a black comedy sort of way, and I would place it high up personally it doesn't have the Oscar Feel. And Valkyrie was a good thriller, that I already knew the outcome too, and why Tarantino's choice for his movie's ending was the best possible one. I wouldn't consider Good Will Hunting to be Oscar bait. But I'd have to go with Chocolat from about 10 years back. It stopped films like Almost Famous, Requiem for a Dream and Billy Elliot getting Best Picture nominations. Almost Famous was typical Oscar Bait, but Chocolat did not deserve any of the accolades it got, except for Alfred Molina, who is awesome. And I love Requiem for a Dream, and I find it to be a brilliant movie that Marlon Wayans DESERVED as Oscar Nod for, but there was no way that it would ever get the respect in the Oscars that it deserved. Now I'll say it. 2008, Australia wins for Baitfail. Time praised it, before it's release, while calling the Wrestler straight up bait. Wait to go Time, wait to go.
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Post by thatguybayne on Mar 5, 2010 23:10:38 GMT -5
That's a pretty good choice. What an appallingly dull film. Yeah, sorry about that one guys. I thought it was hillarious the amount of hype the local press gave this as being a sure fire oscar winner only to viciously turn on it when it bombed. ;D It did succeed in getting Renee Zellwegger an Oscar for one of the worst performances ever. Ain't no man better than me. Don't you mean a Razzie, which I find to be a far more entertaining award and wish they would televise the ceremony? I'd have more respect for the Razzies if they didn't shamelessly pick on a particular subject every year. Smashing Pumpkins won one for worst song for The End is The Beginning is The End just to spite the Batman and Robin movies. Yeah, that song is so horrible it won a grammy, charted well internationally and is still pretty well recieved by fans. ![::)](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/eyesroll.png)
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Post by Aceorton on Mar 6, 2010 3:27:40 GMT -5
Do my eyes deceive me, or did this thread actually reach five pages with no mention of this? ![](http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b297/Aceorton/payforwa.jpg)
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Post by Mozenrath on Mar 6, 2010 6:49:17 GMT -5
Do my eyes deceive me, or did this thread actually reach five pages with no mention of this? ![](http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b297/Aceorton/payforwa.jpg) I really hate that movie, and not just because Billy Kidman is in it on TV.
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