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Post by YellowJacketY2J on Feb 25, 2010 9:40:51 GMT -5
The Reader got the nom because it wasn't a comic booky movie or a cartoon, neither which ae "legitimate serious Academy material." Yet Lord of the Rings: Return of the King got to sweep the Oscars in 2004.
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Post by El Cokehead del Knife Fight on Feb 25, 2010 10:37:11 GMT -5
The Reader got the nom because it wasn't a comic booky movie or a cartoon, neither which ae "legitimate serious Academy material." Yet Lord of the Rings: Return of the King got to sweep the Oscars in 2004. Remember, people were extremely pissed that the previous films won crap all. If the best one of them all didn't win anything well then....
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Post by Grendel on Feb 25, 2010 10:51:21 GMT -5
Yet Lord of the Rings: Return of the King got to sweep the Oscars in 2004. Remember, people were extremely pissed that the previous films won crap all. If the best one of them all didn't win anything well then.... I thought The Two Towers was the best of the three and should have won Oscars. But since they were movies coming out every year, I figure the Academy waited until the last one was out before giving out the big award.
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Post by AriadosMan on Feb 25, 2010 15:56:14 GMT -5
The Reader got the nom because it wasn't a comic booky movie or a cartoon, neither which ae "legitimate serious Academy material." Yet Lord of the Rings: Return of the King got to sweep the Oscars in 2004. LOTR is generally respected in literary circles as one of the 20th Century's big achievements. Its not considered "out there" to nom a LOTR movie-it doesn't have the stigma that comics do.
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Post by ICBM on Feb 25, 2010 16:00:58 GMT -5
I am still trying to figure out Schindler's list. To my knowledge and recolection I had never heard of it or it's run and yet Best Picture, best screan play yada yada yada
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Post by AriadosMan on Feb 25, 2010 16:03:39 GMT -5
I am still trying to figure out Schindler's list. To my knowledge and recolection I had never heard of it or it's run and yet Best Picture, best screan play yada yada yada www.imdb.com/title/tt0108052/#9 on IMDB does not indicate "failed" Oscar bait.
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Post by Red Impact on Feb 25, 2010 17:01:47 GMT -5
I didn't like Into the Wild. I think it's more a glorification of one man's stupidity then a compelling story.
For LotR, they were waiting to the end to award it it's awards. That was obviously going to be how they did it from the start.
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Post by Sickfit, King Of The Fits on Feb 25, 2010 18:57:57 GMT -5
I completely agree with you on the Oscars. The only reason I pay attention is to see if they get something right. And also to hold sexy, extravagant Oscar parties. I'm just kidding. I'm too cynical and self-aware to have those. I imagine there are those that do ... Anyway, on one of my blog pages I used to have (before I got bored with the whole thing), I would do my own type of awards deal based solely on which movies entertained me the most. And I would only comment on movies that I had seen that year, and I had some strange categories like most awesome death scene, best come uppance, stuff like that. But I didn't do stuff like the Spike TV Movie Awards, where they would screw up categories. Like having Famke Jansen in the hottest heroine category when she was a villain in X Men: The Last Stand. I do something similar, but it's more for my own recollection. I have basically 6 categories: Best Picture, Best Actor, Best Actress, Best Supporting Actor, Best Supporting Actress and Best Director. Each one of these is a top ten list, because I believe there are usually 10 excellent movies produced each year. It also gives people credit when credit was due, especially in comedies.
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Post by JDviant on Feb 25, 2010 20:49:40 GMT -5
Which movie is still talked about today? Or for that matter at least, which soundtrack do people still listen to? I sing more Alfred P. Doolittle then John Lennon. MFL has a great soundtrack.
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Post by losthead on Feb 26, 2010 17:35:36 GMT -5
I don't really have an "Oscar party", but we do tally sheets to see who can predict the winners. The winner usually gets nothing, but eventually we might have a pot of money or something.
I like watching the Oscars. There's usually nothing else on anyways.
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Post by Cela on Feb 26, 2010 17:51:26 GMT -5
Which movie is still talked about today? Or for that matter at least, which soundtrack do people still listen to? I sing more Alfred P. Doolittle then John Lennon. MFL has a great soundtrack. Agreed entirely. MFL is an American Classic... about English people.
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Post by toddpolt on Feb 26, 2010 19:34:04 GMT -5
I am still trying to figure out Schindler's list. To my knowledge and recolection I had never heard of it or it's run and yet Best Picture, best screan play yada yada yada www.imdb.com/title/tt0108052/#9 on IMDB does not indicate "failed" Oscar bait. Or for that matter named by readers of a film magazine the best movie ever produced. In Germany.
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Post by tap on Feb 26, 2010 20:29:49 GMT -5
Almost all of them? Until they open up the ghetto that is the "Best Foreign Language Film" category, I'll always see most of the nominated films as Oscar bait.
Failures? Some are, some aren't, but nevertheless most nominees still reek of pawing at "prestige" while having none.
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Post by Jay Peas 42 on Feb 26, 2010 23:43:17 GMT -5
I think "Precious: Based on the Novel "Push" by Sapphire" is the best example.
And My Fair Lady is hardly an obscure film. Stick to "Love Theme from a Summer Place."
Also, the Two Towers lost to Chicago. If Return of the King didn't win it all, we would have rioted.
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Post by toddpolt on Feb 27, 2010 0:42:49 GMT -5
And My Fair Lady is hardly an obscure film. Stick to "Love Theme from a Summer Place." . I think the point I was putting across was that compared to AHDN, which has had the greater more overt influence to subsequent cinema? And yes a subjective facet, but I think one is better than the other. I wonder how that MFL remake will fly.
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Post by YellowJacketY2J on Feb 27, 2010 4:22:37 GMT -5
I think "Precious: Based on the Novel "Push" by Sapphire" is the best example. How did it fail if got nominated for best picture, best actress and best supporting actress?
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Post by sloride on Feb 27, 2010 4:25:34 GMT -5
I am still trying to figure out Schindler's list. To my knowledge and recolection I had never heard of it or it's run and yet Best Picture, best screan play yada yada yada Not really failed Oscar bait. Speilberg until Schindler's List was viewed rather distainfully by the academy as he was written off as someone who could only do blockbusters. Everything changed for him after that. I still don't get how Neeson and Fiennes did not win awards though for their performances though.
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Post by Dynamite Kid on Feb 27, 2010 6:33:50 GMT -5
Good Will Hunting may well be Oscar bait but it's an amazing movie.
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Post by toddpolt on Feb 27, 2010 9:18:24 GMT -5
Not really failed Oscar bait. Speilberg until Schindler's List was viewed rather distainfully by the academy as he was written off as someone who could only do blockbusters. I think no better example of that than 1985 when his The Color Purple, which some at the time considered the front-runner to win it all, had 10 Oscar nominations. And didn't win a single one. That's right, 0-10.
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Post by elektro on Feb 27, 2010 9:36:56 GMT -5
It did succeed in getting Renee Zellwegger an Oscar for one of the worst performances ever. Ain't no man better than me. Don't you mean a Razzie, which I find to be a far more entertaining award and wish they would televise the ceremony?
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