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Post by psychokiller on Dec 29, 2009 14:23:01 GMT -5
I mean with Hogan coming in and all, he's the biggest name in wrestling history. If he can't even get interest into the show than I think TNA will never ever be mainstream. I really believe this is TNAs last chance to become a known mainstream wrestling company. I haven't watched TNA regularly in almost a year because I just stand any of it, but Hogan has my interest. I'm really hoping that he brings the ratings up at least 50%, if he doesn't than TNA will never ever compete with WWE in my opinion. What do you think?
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Post by hollywood on Dec 29, 2009 14:45:06 GMT -5
No.
So long as the company exists, there's always a chance.
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Post by psychokiller on Dec 29, 2009 14:52:05 GMT -5
Eh, I suppose. But If they keep staying in the Impact Zone they'll never get big. That's one big step they are going to have to take eventually is to get out of the Impact Zone regularly. Right now they just look like an indy fed that has a TV deal with some big name stars, which means they won't get anywhere the way they are now. I don't think it's a coincidence that some of the big names who come in leave fast, because they know they won't go anywhere the way they are now. Guys like Angle, Steiner, Jarrett, Sting, and Nash are only in TNA over WWE because they either burned bridges there or they want the lighter schedule.
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Post by hollywood on Dec 29, 2009 14:55:06 GMT -5
There are a TON of things TNA should do if they want to be the big deal they keep insisting they are. As you said, leaving the Impact Zone is one of them. I've said this before, but they also need to friggin'
ADVERTIZE!
Along with a handful of other things (*coughfirerussocoughcough*).
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Post by Dave at the Movies on Dec 29, 2009 15:17:21 GMT -5
I mean with Hogan coming in and all, he's the biggest name in wrestling history. If he can't even get interest into the show than I think TNA will never ever be mainstream. I really believe this is TNAs last chance to become a known mainstream wrestling company. I haven't watched TNA regularly in almost a year because I just stand any of it, but Hogan has my interest. I'm really hoping that he brings the ratings up at least 50%, if he doesn't than TNA will never ever compete with WWE in my opinion. What do you think? You haven't watched in the last year? This has been like the best year yet for TNA wrestling and storyline wise. I don't think this is their last chance. If you remember it took WCW about 7 to 8 years until they could compete in the ratings with WWF and they had way more money than TNA.
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Post by KingPopper on Dec 29, 2009 15:23:28 GMT -5
This is a major episode for TNA, will it make or break them? No.
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Post by xxshoyuweeniexx on Dec 29, 2009 15:26:22 GMT -5
They have other opportunities, but hopefully the investors realize that Hogan won't be the be all end all thing that brings TNA to ratings glory. It's adver-freaking-tising (they need to go balls to the wall with their advertising campaign, a lot of people get Spike TV but don't know that TNA even exist), and doing something that no one has ever done before (ala Hogan turning heel, NWO which was new to America).
I'll wait and see what Bischoff has planned though.
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Post by hollywood on Dec 29, 2009 15:26:29 GMT -5
In order to finally "get big," TNA will need to stop trying to recreate the 90's.
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Post by Dave at the Movies on Dec 29, 2009 15:32:22 GMT -5
In order to finally "get big," TNA will need to stop trying to recreate the 90's. I agree with this but in a way WWE is doing the exact same thing and it is pretty much the only thing keeping them going besides a hanful of new guys like CM Punk and Kofi. TNA has to fight fire with fire although I agree they need to move on in the next year. WWE does too because that is pretty much what they rely on the most. Also people saying TNA doesn't advertise enough I don't think I completely agree. When TNA started they did commercials during RAW and stilll couldn't get the audience even when they finally got on TV and still did commercials during RAW.
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Post by BitterAF on Dec 29, 2009 15:37:04 GMT -5
Get big you say?
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Post by AriadosMan on Dec 29, 2009 15:41:29 GMT -5
In order to finally "get big," TNA will need to stop trying to recreate the 90's. So should WWE, arguably.
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Post by Ryushinku on Dec 29, 2009 15:56:52 GMT -5
No, but it's definitely their best chance to date.
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Post by hollywood on Dec 29, 2009 15:58:26 GMT -5
In order to finally "get big," TNA will need to stop trying to recreate the 90's. So should WWE, arguably. Well, yea. But the " Oh yea, well WWE still does it!" attitude isn't going to benefit TNA any.
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Post by Cry Me a Wiggle on Dec 29, 2009 16:48:32 GMT -5
Get big you say? I was skeptical until I realized there was all that science behind it.
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Post by donners on Dec 29, 2009 17:02:40 GMT -5
Unquestionably. TNA has lived on the potential for growth for a long time without really delivering.
Personally, I'd be fine with them staying at the same ratings, as long as they are financially stable and put on a good product.
The move to Hogan suggests that the powers that be are not content with that. If it fails to have an impact, then they may well run out of patience.
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Post by Massive G on Dec 29, 2009 17:08:01 GMT -5
In order to finally "get big," TNA will need to stop trying to recreate the 90's. So should WWE, arguably. WWE is not having trouble / trying to "get big". I've said this all along, and it still applies: the worst thing TNA can do is try to copy WWE's blueprint or strategy from the last 10 years in any way.
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Post by derrtaysouth95 on Dec 29, 2009 17:14:03 GMT -5
It's not over until it's over.
As long as TNA still exists they always have a chance to strike it big and take off.
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Post by GaTechGrad on Dec 29, 2009 18:41:41 GMT -5
*Points at WCW 1994*
WCW really didn't get "big" when Hogan arrived... it took starting a live Monday night show and taking their show across the country. TNA really is in the same position as pre-Nitro WCW, when WCW only had a handfull of weekly taped shows out of Atlanta and Orlando (WCW Saturday Night, WCW PRO Wrestling, WCW Worldwide).
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Post by Andrew is Good on Dec 29, 2009 19:30:49 GMT -5
It sucks that, TNA is going in a bad direction with this, where as WWE is going in a better direction so far.
WWE has Bret Hart on their show, which is bigger then Hogan, because Hogan has had television exposure, where as Bret Hart has been away for such a long time, and it's such a rare occurrence for this to happen. However, TNA has the long drawn out build for Hogan, which has been better then the build recently for Bret Hart.
TNA's biggest problem right now, is it's TNA Impact w/Hulk Hogan's debut, and other exciting matches. WWE is, WWE Raw w/the return of Bret Hart, a Unified Tag Team Title match, and a grudge match between two fierce rivals.
They should have said weeks in advance, for this show, we're gonna have this, that and the other thing. Like, maybe AJ Styles vs the winner of the TCS. When Lashley won that, they should have set the title match for January 4th, to give the long build. Or, build for different title matches, build for big matches on the show, so you can have more then just Hulk Hogan on the show. TNA is putting all their eggs in one basket, where as WWE is spreading it out a little more.
Promoting Hogan on a live show is good, but that's it. There's nothing else. I'm going to assume they'll have their Brian Pillman/Jushin Liger match to keep fans tuned in with a strong match. I think one match that would be good would be the British Invasion in a non-title match against the debuting Young Bucks. Make it out as the British Invasion against the two new guys, but have the Young Bucks take it to the British Invasion, almost to the time limit, and then the British Invasion just sneak by. I think that would be a great first match, and a great way to keep people's attention, hopefully.
But yeah, what this is is to test the waters. If TNA does over 1.3, then it's a victory. If it's less, then it's a failure.
If WWE enters the 2s, then it's not just a loss for WWE, but it shows that the wrestling fans aren't in the numbers they once were. So, the best scenario is, TNA does a good number, and WWE does its average. Thats the best scenario for TNA.
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Post by Can you afford to pay me, Gah on Dec 29, 2009 19:58:15 GMT -5
They need to Advertise and they will get bigger. But that TNA problem they don't. They should been much bigger then they are now a long time ago. When Angle and Sting came in. Both huge names they should had big numbers then but because the lack of Advertising them and the poor booking of them once they got there. They didn't do anything. On a lesser level the same can be said for Booker T who they outside of a puzzle website. They did no hype for him. Which make little sense because he is a big enough star that you should hype him. Not to say he on Sting or Angle's level but he could add something.
They could sign every big name under the sun but unless the fans know about it. It's worthless. TNA as done more Advertising to this Impact monday then they have done for any show period and it still nothing like it should be. They have Hogan all over the place telling the world that he signed in TNA. TNA only had him on UFC to anounce it and they hung a banner in Times Square. The rest as been just wrestling websites. When they NEED to have an outside Spike TV ad running on other networks. Just like the WWE did or does for Wrestlemania. That is why WM gets big numbers every year. At this point yeah it known as superbowl of wrestling but the WWE advertise the living hell out of it and they did that for years. If TNA did it yeah they would get a higher rating or buyrate.
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