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Post by Big L on Dec 23, 2009 18:21:18 GMT -5
Well he's entitled to his opinion, but honestly, other than Cena and Hunter, nobody has been as consistently good in WWE. this
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Post by "Playboy" Don Douglas on Dec 23, 2009 19:05:40 GMT -5
Paul Roma was nothing more than a glorified gym rat.
I actually enjoyed Power and Glory, and thought more could have been done with them. Other than that, Roma just never did anything that impressed me.
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Post by Crazy Diamond on Dec 23, 2009 21:58:29 GMT -5
Paul wins again. He wouldn't be the first person to say that about HBK because the kids I knew growing up said the same thing and this was in 1996. Never thought he fit in the Horsemen, but apparently that wasn't his choice.
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Post by hbk4ever09 on Dec 23, 2009 22:06:19 GMT -5
^^
HBK looked unhealthy...in 1996? Really? That's why whenever his music hit all one heard was the shrieks of eager females. I'm glad Paul wins, as HBK headlined a wrestlemania in 1996 and will headline yet another one in 2010. Paul can order on PPV.
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Post by "Playboy" Don Douglas on Dec 23, 2009 22:15:57 GMT -5
I don't know, we may have to ask Lex Luger if Paul can afford to order on PPV.
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Post by Can you afford to pay me, Gah on Dec 24, 2009 15:08:26 GMT -5
Be bitter about the business, but why single out a person who eclipses him in just about every facet in Wrestling? That what Roma does. He isn't the only person to think Shawn Michaels is a tool. Until he "found god" or "his smile" or whatever he was generally regard as a sleazy egomaniac by more people than Roma. If you turned on your TV and saw some ass kisser you knew from 2 decades earlier prancing around with glow sticks and acting like a 12 year old you would be thinking the same thing. Yeah 90% of the people who said bad things about Shawn Michaels was stuff that always happened before his relign thing. The funny thing is that your praising a guy who himself was a big tool. While HBK may not been a saint neither is Roma. It was Roma who didn't do the job like he was told in WCW against Alex Wright on PPV. Regardless what people think about Alex Wright fact is fact. That he went against WCW on camera on PPV. Which laid himself to get fired. Just because HBK says "Suck it" you count that against him? Even though he no longer on drugs and a drunk like he used to be. Say what you want about him name a negative thing ever said about HBK that was post back injury by a wrestler. Roma saying everything he said about HBK when he hasn't worked with HBK since what 92. Yeah before HBK was even successful. He may been a punk kid back then. But what was Roma in 94 when he did what he did with Wright?
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Post by Spankymac is sick of the swiss on Dec 24, 2009 23:08:27 GMT -5
Why is it that guys that never accomplished anything of any note in the business always feel the need to bury guys that completely eclipsed their careers? Aside from ONE tag team title run in WCW that no one remembers, what did Roma ever do for anyone? And yet he's burying HBK, arguably one of the top 10 wrestlers of all time from an in-ring standpoint, and probably from a drawing standpoint, as well.
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Post by Angus Mcloud on Dec 24, 2009 23:22:17 GMT -5
I just imagine Paul Roma all pissed because he was mean to some guy in WCW named Terra Ryzin back in 1994
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Post by "Hollywood" Cactus Matt on Dec 25, 2009 13:51:56 GMT -5
Why is it that guys that never accomplished anything of any note in the business always feel the need to bury guys that completely eclipsed their careers? Aside from ONE tag team title run in WCW that no one remembers, what did Roma ever do for anyone? And yet he's burying HBK, arguably one of the top 10 wrestlers of all time from an in-ring standpoint, and probably from a drawing standpoint, as well. I am in no way sticking up for the man, nor am I trying to "call you out" or be a jerk to you, but Roma was actually WCW World Tag Team champion three times. (once with Arn Anderson, and twice with Paul Orndorff as "Pretty Wonderful.")
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Post by Crazy Diamond on Dec 25, 2009 18:39:41 GMT -5
^^ HBK looked unhealthy...in 1996? Really? That's why whenever his music hit all one heard was the shrieks of eager females. I'm glad Paul wins, as HBK headlined a wrestlemania in 1996 and will headline yet another one in 2010. Paul can order on PPV. He got people talking about him. That's why he keeps making these statements. I'm thinking more of the 160 pounds part because I remember fans both men, women, boys, and girls saying the same thing.
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Post by Blindkarevik on Dec 25, 2009 18:54:42 GMT -5
Personally, I have always figured in order to "bury" somebody, you need to have a certain amount of credibility comparable to the person in question in order to hurt their reputation. Paul Roma ripping on Shawn Michaels is like me saying Vince McMahon doesn't know how to run a business. Who's going to believe me? Who's going to care?
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Post by thereallybigshow on Dec 25, 2009 19:03:28 GMT -5
ALL HAIL ROMA!!!
Here is a excerpt from BEFORE he made the Michaels comment.
“It doesn’t surprise me. Not at all. These guys don’t know when to call it quits. That’s all they know. They’re going to do it until they die, which most wrestlers from my era have passed away. But again, TNA, and I know they’re going to have their little henchmen on your site, have to build up their own characters within the company. Not reach out to these old-timers. These has-beens, you know, and think they’re going to be the save-all. They’re not. They have to build characters. They just don’t do that and that’s why they’re failing.”
... he's not that crazy fellas...
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Post by eJm on Dec 25, 2009 19:16:41 GMT -5
Paul Roma has a right to his opinions just like anyone else...
and I have the right to say 'Yeah...he's not credible enough for me, he's speaking crap'.
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Post by thereallybigshow on Dec 25, 2009 19:29:10 GMT -5
Paul Roma has a right to his opinions just like anyone else... and I have the right to say 'Yeah...he's not credible enough for me, he's speaking crap'. What makes somebody credible? Winning title in a fake sporting contest? Being best friends with a the bosses son in law make a person credible? Roma was a great worker. He toured with the WWF in the 80's-90's and he worked for WCW in the 90's. He seems to take pride in the fact never kissed anyones ass. I applaud that. If you watched him in his prime you know he was an awesome worker. He's not talking about a subject he has no insight on. He's been around. If anything he is MORE credible than many stars from that day. Roma isn't posturing for a job. He's being 100% honest, something many worn down, hard up stars from yesteryear aren't willing to do in fear of being blackballed.
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Post by thereallybigshow on Dec 25, 2009 19:43:02 GMT -5
DOUBLE POST
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Post by strykerdarksilence on Dec 25, 2009 19:49:47 GMT -5
Paul Roma has a right to his opinions just like anyone else... and I have the right to say 'Yeah...he's not credible enough for me, he's speaking crap'. What makes somebody credible? Winning title in a fake sporting contest? Being best friends with a the bosses son in law make a person credible? Roma was a great worker. He toured with the WWF in the 80's-90's and he worked for WCW in the 90's. He seems to take pride in the fact never kissed anyones ass. I applaud that. If you watched him in his prime you know he was an awesome worker. He's not talking about a subject he has no insight on. He's been around. If anything he is MORE credible than many stars from that day. Roma isn't posturing for a job. He's being 100% honest, something many worn down, hard up stars from yesteryear aren't willing to do in fear of being blackballed. Praise from fellow workers. How many shoots are there where someone says "That Paul Roma, what a talent!" I'm not denying the fact the guy was a good worker, but ask I would say ANY wrestler who they would rather emulate career wise, and they would say Shawn. Shawn has inspired generations of workers. Not every person in the business is going to kiss his ass. Paul Roma has done well for himself away from wrestling. Good for him. That doesn't make his an unbiased opinion. If he said "Yeah, Shawn could work, but I think it's going downhill and he's probably only still heavily featured because he's Triple H's buddy. The guy was a total ass when I was around the business" then there would be no issue. He makes the blanket statement "Nobody wants to see him, he isn't healthy". The crowd reactions to him and the popular response to his matches dispute that, and unless he's privvy to the results of any recent healthchecks, I don't see what evidence there is to suggest the guy is in bad health.
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Post by machomuta on Dec 25, 2009 19:51:01 GMT -5
Paul Roma has a right to his opinions just like anyone else... and I have the right to say 'Yeah...he's not credible enough for me, he's speaking crap'. Roma was a great worker. You need great matches to be a great worker. Roma never had a **** or ***** match.
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Post by Kash Flagg on Dec 25, 2009 19:59:23 GMT -5
Eh, he's the new Tom Zenk.
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Post by thereallybigshow on Dec 25, 2009 20:00:55 GMT -5
What makes somebody credible? Winning title in a fake sporting contest? Being best friends with a the bosses son in law make a person credible? Roma was a great worker. He toured with the WWF in the 80's-90's and he worked for WCW in the 90's. He seems to take pride in the fact never kissed anyones ass. I applaud that. If you watched him in his prime you know he was an awesome worker. He's not talking about a subject he has no insight on. He's been around. If anything he is MORE credible than many stars from that day. Roma isn't posturing for a job. He's being 100% honest, something many worn down, hard up stars from yesteryear aren't willing to do in fear of being blackballed. Praise from fellow workers. How many shoots are there where someone says "That Paul Roma, what a talent!" I'm not denying the fact the guy was a good worker, but ask I would say ANY wrestler who they would rather emulate career wise, and they would say Shawn. Shawn has inspired generations of workers. Not every person in the business is going to kiss his ass. Paul Roma has done well for himself away from wrestling. Good for him. That doesn't make his an unbiased opinion. If he said "Yeah, Shawn could work, but I think it's going downhill and he's probably only still heavily featured because he's Triple H's buddy. The guy was a total ass when I was around the business" then there would be no issue. He makes the blanket statement "Nobody wants to see him, he isn't healthy". The crowd reactions to him and the popular response to his matches dispute that, and unless he's privvy to the results of any recent healthchecks, I don't see what evidence there is to suggest the guy is in bad health. I agree. He doesn't exactly try to be politically correct. That's just what he does. Did you watch him in the Horsemen DVD? He nearly stole the show! Roma never fails to entertain.
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Post by strykerdarksilence on Dec 25, 2009 20:04:11 GMT -5
Praise from fellow workers. How many shoots are there where someone says "That Paul Roma, what a talent!" I'm not denying the fact the guy was a good worker, but ask I would say ANY wrestler who they would rather emulate career wise, and they would say Shawn. Shawn has inspired generations of workers. Not every person in the business is going to kiss his ass. Paul Roma has done well for himself away from wrestling. Good for him. That doesn't make his an unbiased opinion. If he said "Yeah, Shawn could work, but I think it's going downhill and he's probably only still heavily featured because he's Triple H's buddy. The guy was a total ass when I was around the business" then there would be no issue. He makes the blanket statement "Nobody wants to see him, he isn't healthy". The crowd reactions to him and the popular response to his matches dispute that, and unless he's privvy to the results of any recent healthchecks, I don't see what evidence there is to suggest the guy is in bad health. I agree. He doesn't exactly try to be politically correct. That's just what he does. Did you watch him in the Horsemen DVD? He nearly stole the show! Roma never fails to entertain. What? In what way does that link to what I said? If you agreed, you would't be hailing Paul Roma as some great figure in wrestling or some unbiased truth teller.
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