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Post by Metalheadbanger Man on Apr 21, 2010 19:12:12 GMT -5
HAS to be Cenas Finish. Been watching WWF since 1989 at aged 5 and even THEN i wouldnt have bought that a standing firemans carry can win a world title match! Agreed. If he finished it more like the Death Valley Driver and spiked the guy's shoulders into the mat, OK. But to just have them land flat is even less impressive than a standard bodyslam. Cena only started using the fireman's as a dig at Brock Lesnar's F-5 anyway. I can't remember for the life of me what he did for a finish before that, though. I believe it was that power-bomb type thing that he now uses to set up the 5 Knuckle Shuffle. |
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Post by agent817 on Apr 21, 2010 19:38:49 GMT -5
What about The Pounce from Monty Brown? All the move was just a shoulder block. I know Brown is a rather muscular guy, but I always thought that the move would be better a setup move rather than a finisher.
By the way, the part about The People's Elbow, I always had a different perspective on this. I remember some of the time, Rock used The Rock Bottom to set up his opponent for the elbow. I know he mostly used that spinebuster to set up The People's Elbow, but with The Rock Bottom, it would seem, kayfabe-wise, that the opponent is already phased by that move before he did The People's Elbow.
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Post by FailedGimmick on Apr 21, 2010 20:21:33 GMT -5
Considering that the most devastating submission hold in the current WWE product is an STF, and the 2nd most devastating submission is a sleeper, I'd put Undertaker's Hell's Gate above those two. |
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Post by Angus Mcloud on Apr 21, 2010 20:24:11 GMT -5
Agreed. If he finished it more like the Death Valley Driver and spiked the guy's shoulders into the mat, OK. But to just have them land flat is even less impressive than a standard bodyslam. Cena only started using the fireman's as a dig at Brock Lesnar's F-5 anyway. I can't remember for the life of me what he did for a finish before that, though. I believe it was that power-bomb type thing that he now uses to set up the 5 Knuckle Shuffle. Formerly known as the Proto-Plex |
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Post by Ass Dan on Apr 21, 2010 20:42:38 GMT -5
The Boomerang, by Skinner, was pretty bad. It was stupid as all get out.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 21, 2010 20:55:16 GMT -5
Not sure where Big Bully Busick's stump puller ranks but it's got to be up there somewhere.
Honorable mention, Berzerker's throw the guy out of the ring for a count out victory
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Post by romafan87 on Apr 21, 2010 20:57:30 GMT -5
The Boomerang, by Skinner, was pretty bad. It was stupid as all get out. I think you're thinking of Outback Jack. |
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Post by Angus Mcloud on Apr 21, 2010 21:20:46 GMT -5
The Boomerang, by Skinner, was pretty bad. It was stupid as all get out. I think you're thinking of Outback Jack. Ya Skinner used the Gator Braker. Which was a Reverse DDT. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 21, 2010 21:23:56 GMT -5
What was the Mountie's finish? I can't for the life of me remember but I bet it was lame.
What about Virgil? Can't remember that one either. Million Dollar Dream? Boxing punches?
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Post by Angus Mcloud on Apr 21, 2010 22:05:47 GMT -5
I think The Mountie used a nerve pinch of some sort. I think Virgils finished was a roll up when not using his other finisher losing
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Post by FrankGotch on Apr 21, 2010 22:22:30 GMT -5
Not sure where Big Bully Busick's stump puller ranks but it's got to be up there somewhere. Honorable mention, Berzerker's throw the guy out of the ring for a count out victory You kidding dude the stump puller is brutal, and was once a legit submission move. |
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Post by MichaelMartini on Apr 21, 2010 23:30:21 GMT -5
The leg drop, worm and People's elbow are ok with me because they are combo finishes. Running into big boot from a 6'7 dude could knock you out, the leg drop finishes you off. The spinebuster was a finisher in the past, the elbow finishes you off, even the worm was preceeded by the facebuster, and most people kicked out of it anyway.
I agree with the overdrive. I hate that move.
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Post by NIXON on Apr 21, 2010 23:46:28 GMT -5
I always had a problem with the Roaring or Rolling Elbow as a finisher. Misawa used it sometimes, and it always bothered me because he would drop a guy on his head 27 different ways, and it's a running elbow smash that finally puts him out? Just never made sense to me. Course there is a ton about puro that doesn't make sense to me. Not the worst ever by far though. I'm not sure what the worst ever is. The muscle buster also bothers me because it's just a vertical suplex. The torture rack was pretty awful, as it would be terribly easy to get out of, and Luger held the guy sideways, which made it completely ineffective. And the Kona Crush! That might be the worst ever. I hated it even then.
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Post by italliansausagepat on Apr 22, 2010 0:18:43 GMT -5
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Post by italliansausagepat on Apr 22, 2010 0:21:26 GMT -5
Virgil's finisher was actually a russian leg sweep. tune in at 2:28 seconds to see him deliver it to a young balls mahoney. I have seen him win against quite a few jobbers using this.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nKsIFxQUDmI |
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Post by Arturo Classico on Apr 22, 2010 0:23:26 GMT -5
here's a list of finishing moves I hate:
Airplane spin, I mean this one I don't get at all how is spinning while holding your opponent a way to finish your opponent? It barely makes sense to even do that move at since it makes you dizzy as well.
Slingshot Suplex, now even in the eighties who would buy this as a finisher it just looks so weak to me and maybe I can see this as a setup move since I guess you could say they gain momentum by bouncing the legs of your opponent on the top rope but not as a finisher.
Giant Swing, again very very lame like the airplane spin in the sense you make yourself dizzy just don't but it as a finisher
Bicycle Kick, not bad as a setup move but in no way can but it as a finisher
probaly the last one I can think of is is the Stun Gun just not deadly enough I could see it as a great set up move like the Bicycle kick and the slingshot suplex but when I see the Stun Gun I can't really see people getting excited for that move.
Thats my list anyway.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 22, 2010 0:33:57 GMT -5
No mention yet of the Nasty Boys' "pit stop?"
Sgt. Slaughter's finisher under the Iraqi heel gimmick was pretty bizarre. Granted, it was ramming his knuckles into a guy's temple, but it still looked like he was giving a noogie.
I would also like to nominate the Goon's finisher, which was ramming his opponent into the guardrails for a count-out.
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Post by mrjl on Apr 22, 2010 7:38:18 GMT -5
don't quite get the point here. Wrestling moves aren't supposed to actually hurt, so that's a good thing. As for whether it looks like it should imagine 300 lbs dropping onto your throat. It's not supposed to actually hurt, but you expect them to look like they have some force. And it's not dropping 300 pounds on you. It'd be 300 pounds if the wrestler was doing a double foot stomp or a bonzai drop, but not with a leg drop. The only weight falling on you is the part of the leg that's falling, usually the back of the knee or calf, and even that's not going to come down with that much force as most of it is going to be dispersed by the backside when it hits the mat. the leg should hit the throat or chest before the ass hits the mat. As that one leg is the only thing landing that's supporting weight for at least a second your opponent's throat is the only thing holding up your entire body's weight. |
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Post by allenfan69 on Apr 22, 2010 10:44:27 GMT -5
Did the Bushwhackers use their Battering Ram as a finisher?
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Post by Angus Mcloud on Apr 22, 2010 11:12:27 GMT -5
Did the Bushwhackers use their Battering Ram as a finisher? Yes they did. They also used a Double Stomach Breaker |
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