dabossftw
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Post by dabossftw on May 19, 2010 11:54:40 GMT -5
I still think they should market the "Raw Zone" as a totally seperate hour from the first. Give it a TV-14 rating, have blood, some swearing and maybe some more edgy stuff. That way, the first hour is still okay for kids, and it gets increasingly edgier through the night. This. Kids who are young enough to be influenced by edgy/violent stuff should be in bed around 9pm, not up watching wrestling. Change A.M. Raw to a Raw recap, put it on Saturday morning/afternoon, and make it kid-friendly. Bob's yer uncle.
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Post by AriadosMan on May 19, 2010 12:01:41 GMT -5
See, I still don't get why people here seem to think going TV-14 would mean some huge ratings/popularity boost. TNA tried going TV-14 with (in the most literal sense of the word) an old Attitude-era mentality and got slaughtered. WWE's cable ratings are actually higher now than they were in the last couple of years of TV-14s. The thing that has suffered has been PPVs more than cable itself.
I think Extreme Rules, Hell in A Cell and maybe 2 other PPVs should go TV-14 as a nod to the older audience, but I don't see the point of trying to Attitude everything again when its pretty clear Attitude wouldn't work in today's market. Hell, their bizarre insistence that the Divas are an actual draw in age of instapron is one of the things still holding them back from transforming themselves into a more up to date product.
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Post by jamielowndes {N} on May 19, 2010 12:12:46 GMT -5
They dont need to up the age rating. Its fine being PG.
Id gladly take what Ive seen of 2010 over a lot of the really TV-14 stuff from the Reign of Terror.
I dont need to see them swear, Ive never cared for blood, and since my huge passion for MMA has come around, I find garbage wrestling to be....garbage.
Swearing, smashing people with weapons and putting people on crosses was cool in the 90's. The 90's belonged to a beer swilling redneck, a crow who watched from the rafters, a drunk guy with a singapore cane, a grunge-era sociopath who quoted Edgar Allen Poe, and 2 groups of rebels that did nothing but cause havoc for "the man".
It's not the 90's anymore.
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Post by Deleted on May 19, 2010 12:17:16 GMT -5
Again, why don't we let Triple H, when he assumes Vince's role, and the new generation of wrestlers(Swagger, Rhodes, Punk, Bryan, etc...), create a whole new era without anything being forced upon?
Jesus, those who think that the WWE should go back to the 90s are no better than an geezer approaching retirement wanting society to go back to the 50s imo.
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AriadosMan
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Post by AriadosMan on May 19, 2010 12:24:10 GMT -5
Again, why don't we let Triple H, when he assumes Vince's role, and the new generation of wrestlers(Swagger, Rhodes, Punk, Bryan, etc...), create a whole new era without anything being forced upon? Jesus, those who think that the WWE should go back to the 90s are no better than an geezer approaching retirement wanting society to go back to the 50s imo. Every generation has its own rose-tinted view of its own legacy, regardless of whether or not it will work in the modern day.
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Post by Deleted on May 19, 2010 12:27:09 GMT -5
That is very true. This is the very reason why TNA's attempt to recapture that legacy didn't work.
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Post by Chainsaw on May 19, 2010 12:49:27 GMT -5
I'd like to think this was just regular newz, that the guy watched the promo that Bryan cut, and went with that, but there has been some incidences where it feels like they're starting to make the shows more dramatic and not as much of a joke as they have been. The stuff with Punk and Orton being prime examples.
It's kinda weird, there's actually a small amount of drama and surprise coming back to the E! Hopefully they keep it up. I don't want it to be like the Attitude Era, I don't want to leave the kids out of it, but I also don't want to feel like I'm watching a tee-hee tickle party every week.
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Post by BayleyTiffyCodyCenaJudyHopps on May 19, 2010 13:06:00 GMT -5
but I also don't want to feel like I'm watching a tee-hee tickle party every week. That actually sounds anything but kid-friendly.
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Post by smoot on May 19, 2010 14:06:49 GMT -5
but I also don't want to feel like I'm watching a tee-hee tickle party every week. That actually sounds anything but kid-friendly. Oh no! Now you've done it!
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Post by Johnny Flamingo on May 19, 2010 14:24:57 GMT -5
I think you have to take elements from the previous era's and evolve them without totally losing the past.
Example: Bring the prestige of the title's that was around during the 70's, the larger than life perception of the 80's, the psychology/reality of the 90's (example: Raven/Dreamer or Sandman feuds, nWo) and evolve with them.
Trying to copy them will ultimately fail as stories just aren't shocking the second time around as you already know the finish (hint:TNA)
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Post by Real Folk Bruce on May 20, 2010 21:04:02 GMT -5
They won't. UFC pretty much guarantees they won't. Not true. First, not all wrestling fans are mma fans, just look at some of the comments on this thread, and second, UFC and mma was alive and well during the Attitude Era and they posed no threat whatsoever to pro wrestling. The only thing that's changed is that UFC and the other mma organizations have been putting on entertaining programs and they have a multitude of personalities that people will pay to watch. Wrestling on the other hand has been putting on programs that have been anything but entertaining, and now their are very few people that people will pay to watch. After all, why buy a ppv when the same guys will have a rematch on free television the next day?
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Post by I Like Your Poetry on May 20, 2010 21:18:39 GMT -5
Nothing but an internet headline.
I don't care who watches the product, as long as it's an entertaining one. And I promise you, if the overall product is something that WWE can be proud of (and put their full effort into), they will get all types of audiences watching their product.
Essentially, don't water it down too much or pretend it's something that it's not. WWE shouldn't be trying so hard to be socially relevant (Guest Hosts, ahem)...but rather, create original work that'll make others flock to it.
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Post by azrael502 on May 20, 2010 22:09:55 GMT -5
Beths Boobs Screw her boobs! I Would All Night Long
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