barley96
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Post by barley96 on May 18, 2010 20:43:09 GMT -5
From NoDQ:
So Vince McMahon finally admits that he walked away from fans too old to be John Cena fans.
What would you like to see that would appeal to the older crowd?
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Post by mschif420 on May 18, 2010 20:44:23 GMT -5
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barley96
Dennis Stamp
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Post by barley96 on May 18, 2010 20:47:00 GMT -5
light tubes You mean ripping off CZW? |
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Post by pks on May 18, 2010 20:47:34 GMT -5
light tubes You mean ripping off CZW? You mean ripping off FMW? |
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Post by immortalphenom on May 18, 2010 20:47:56 GMT -5
Just good writing and wrestling again.
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Post by derangedhermit on May 18, 2010 20:50:55 GMT -5
Just good writing and wrestling again. He said the two naughty W words. |
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I don't get it. At all. It's kind of a small horse, I mean what am I missing? Am I crazy?
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Post by Ben Wyatt on May 18, 2010 20:52:31 GMT -5
{Disclaimer) I dont really think "PG" WWE is the awful nightmare some people keep obsessing over. That being said:
Find a happy medium.
You cant go back to 1993 where we have Doink the Clown and and Bastion Booger running around.
At the same time, you also cant re-create 1999 where you had middle fingers and satanic rituals.
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Post by mschif420 on May 18, 2010 20:59:32 GMT -5
You mean ripping off CZW? You mean ripping off FMW? i just want a national promotion to use light tubes....just once....they'll get my 55 bucks... |
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Post by immortalphenom on May 18, 2010 21:02:28 GMT -5
Another thing: bring back blood. Maybe not on TV, but at least for PPVs.
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Post by parder on May 18, 2010 21:04:40 GMT -5
The average age of the Raw audience is late 30s, compared to early to mid 20s during the Attitude era. Obviously they lost a lot of viewers after the Attitude era, but the ones they kept seem to be those that have just stuck with the product, but perhaps have young children now who they want to be able to take to house shows.
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Post by Deleted on May 18, 2010 21:12:58 GMT -5
Forget the "edgy" stuff - it only draws in kids who want to get a thrill out of seeing something they're not supposed to watch. There are ways the WWE can get a larger following from older fans and keep the current product appealing to younger ones.
Of course, the simplest way would be to put a greater emphasis on in-ring action and variety. If the 'E could put on classics like Mondays Edge/Christian match on a regular basis, they'd have no trouble drawing in all wrestling fans.
Also, since Vince more or less controls wrestling's history now, there is always the company's endless gold mine - the tape library. I absolutely love watching shoot documentaries like the 24/7 Round Table and the DVD features. Retrospectives are great, too. I have no doubt that as long they continue to open up the vaults and crank out great sets like the Flair, Bret, and HBK sets, the demand will always be there.
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Post by Andrew is Good on May 18, 2010 21:18:35 GMT -5
Basically, more drama, more heat, some blood once in awhile, and no cheesy skits or angles. The older audience is into MMA now. Go in that direction. Have less bullshit. You can still appeal to kids and have blood once in awhile. You can still appeal to kids and have dramatic and violent fighting going on. They did it for years during the territory days.
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Post by Bob Schlapowitz on May 18, 2010 21:23:10 GMT -5
{Disclaimer) I dont really think "PG" WWE is the awful nightmare some people keep obsessing over. That being said: Find a happy medium. You cant go back to 1993 where we have Doink the Clown and and Bastion Booger running around. At the same time, you also cant re-create 1999 where you had middle fingers and satanic rituals. Something along the lines of 1996-97, you mean? If so, I concur. |
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Post by azrael502 on May 18, 2010 21:23:48 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on May 18, 2010 21:28:36 GMT -5
Basically, more drama, more heat, some blood once in awhile, and no cheesy skits or angles. The older audience is into MMA now. Go in that direction. I have to disagree. Wrestling just can't compete with MMA, but fortunately, it works the other way around, too. Play up the drama, skits, and angles, because that "live-action comic book" vibe and camp factor is what makes pro wrestling so unique. Most importantly, though, the match quality has to be top-notch. A shoot fight just can't compete with the drama of a match that's designed to tell a story. WWE needs to avoid being more realistic, and they also need to avoid being a variety show. Play to what makes pro wrestling great. |
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Post by Ben Wyatt on May 18, 2010 21:30:29 GMT -5
{Disclaimer) I dont really think "PG" WWE is the awful nightmare some people keep obsessing over. That being said: Find a happy medium. You cant go back to 1993 where we have Doink the Clown and and Bastion Booger running around. At the same time, you also cant re-create 1999 where you had middle fingers and satanic rituals. Something along the lines of 1996-97, you mean? If so, I concur. Yeah, not exactly like that per se, but a modified version of it |
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Post by kingoftheiwc on May 18, 2010 21:37:18 GMT -5
Me well go back to TV-14 on RAW and NXT and Smackdown once they move to Sy Fy go back to TV-14 with Superstars is TV PG DLV.
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Post by Hassan bin Sober on May 18, 2010 21:39:43 GMT -5
How about actually putting on a wrestling show? Right now they are competing with sketch comedy on Nickelodeon.
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Post by Deleted on May 18, 2010 21:42:12 GMT -5
I think aiming at kids is a great. If you hook them young, they'll be wrestling fans for life.
What keeps them around is good wrestling.
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Post by darbus alan on May 18, 2010 21:43:57 GMT -5
I never thought I'd be saying this but... push Randy Orton. Guy is insanely over as an anti-face personality and I think if he keeps with it that he'll be the WWE's top star. Not because Vince McMahon wants him to, but because the fans demand it. And he's the type of guy everyone of all ages can get behind, unlike the overly-kid friendly John Cena.
Create great matches and intense promos loaded with psychology. No more corny half-baked attempts at cartoon humor.
Don't go back to the Attitude Era. It worked for 1998. The trash TV approach doesn't work for 2010. TNA learned this lesson recently the hard way. If you MUST emulate a year, do 2000. WWF 2000 combined great matches with the Attitude Era's edge while not being as outlandish and trashy as 1998 and 1999 WWF were.
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