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Post by sunwukong on Jun 14, 2010 15:37:43 GMT -5
I know I may be in the minority, but I'd love to see Texas in the SEC...just seems like a better fit than the Pac-10 to me... It would be interesting, but Texas would never want it. They're not going to give up being the big dog on the block to enter into a conference where basically every team is a heavyweight. Except Vandy. f*** Vandy.
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Post by Brick Killed a Guy on Jun 14, 2010 15:49:24 GMT -5
Beebe is like the nerd that really watnts to sleep with the hot chick, so he buys her that purse she's always talking about. ...and he still can't close the deal!!
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Post by BearDogg-X on Jun 14, 2010 15:57:47 GMT -5
I just don't buy this deal. Without Nebraska and Colorado and likely losing the conference title game(if the NCAA wouldn't let the ACC have one with 11 teams, why should the dead conference walking Big XII get one with 10 teams?), I think they're just delaying the inevitable. Edit: Especially since last week, it was being said that a Big XII without Nebraska was unsalvageable. Only reason this attempt at saving the Big XII is even on the table is because Texas was scared of A&M going to the SEC and giving the SEC much bigger access to the Dallas and Houston markets.
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Post by Red Impact on Jun 14, 2010 16:10:32 GMT -5
The thing is, Texas can pretty much do whatever they want. They are the biggest dog in the Big 12 and you know that, 4 years from now, if they want out every conference will open their doors for them.
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Post by BRV on Jun 14, 2010 16:18:00 GMT -5
I just don't buy this deal. Without Nebraska and Colorado and likely losing the conference title game(if the NCAA wouldn't let the ACC have one with 11 teams, why should the dead conference walking Big XII get one with 10 teams?), I think they're just delaying the inevitable. Edit: Especially since last week, it was being said that a Big XII without Nebraska was unsalvageable. Really? Nebraska alone will make or break the Big XII? I just can't buy that logic, especially considering Oklahoma and Texas are both considerably bigger than Nebraska in terms of drawing fans and overall success. If the Big XII stays as it is, losing only Colorado and Nebraska, I think it's in fine shape. The Big Ten managed to survive with an 11-team conference, in which only six of the teams can be considered powerhouses.
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Post by Brick Killed a Guy on Jun 14, 2010 16:37:34 GMT -5
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Post by Red Impact on Jun 14, 2010 16:48:18 GMT -5
I just don't buy this deal. Without Nebraska and Colorado and likely losing the conference title game(if the NCAA wouldn't let the ACC have one with 11 teams, why should the dead conference walking Big XII get one with 10 teams?), I think they're just delaying the inevitable. Edit: Especially since last week, it was being said that a Big XII without Nebraska was unsalvageable. Really? Nebraska alone will make or break the Big XII? I just can't buy that logic, especially considering Oklahoma and Texas are both considerably bigger than Nebraska in terms of drawing fans and overall success. If the Big XII stays as it is, losing only Colorado and Nebraska, I think it's in fine shape. The Big Ten managed to survive with an 11-team conference, in which only six of the teams can be considered powerhouses. Honestly, and I think we're seeing it clearly now, Texas is the team that makes or breaks the Big 12. Every other team is incidental, they'll just follow what Texas does. Really, if Texas stays, it could be horrible for OU, Texas Tech and Oklahoma State if they stay, since other conferences are expanding around them. But they're all timid about breaking from Texas.
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Post by andrew8798 on Jun 14, 2010 17:13:29 GMT -5
Unconfirmed reports say that Utah has accepted an invitation to become the 12th member of the Pac Ten.
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Post by andrew8798 on Jun 14, 2010 17:14:04 GMT -5
Texas' commitment to the Big 12 is dependent on A&M staying put.
Per Joe Schad-
"If Texas A&Ms decision to go to SEC is finalized Texas could back away from Beebe plan "consideration""
Also, from Chip Brown-
"Texas stands to make between $20 mil and $25 mil per yr under a proposed new TV pkg presented by Dan Beebe, plus UT's own network."
A&M regent and former Alabama coach Gene Stallings is saying that the idea of the Big 12 sticking around "would tickle me to death" and says that his vote on A&M's future would depend on who offered a better deal, the Big 12 or another league.
Really BYU and Air Force
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Post by Jay Carroll on Jun 14, 2010 18:17:21 GMT -5
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Post by Confused Mark Wahlberg on Jun 14, 2010 18:28:43 GMT -5
Pac-10:
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Post by Drillbit Taylor on Jun 14, 2010 18:29:07 GMT -5
Its just a bandage. When Big 10 starts flirting with MIZZOU again, it will all start up.
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Post by Arturo Classico on Jun 14, 2010 18:35:04 GMT -5
Unconfirmed reports say that Utah has accepted an invitation to become the 12th member of the Pac Ten. Utah's good but not earth shattering move, although they needed another team for a championship game. Obviously the coup of Pac Ten stealing the Big 12 south has failed which would have put them on the same level of the SEC. The Big 12 seemed like it has survived but will definitely be diminished and one has to wonder how will the Big 12 recover from losing Nebraska and Colorado. Sure you could laugh but losing two quality B12 North schools is big Colorado and Nebraska are always competing for the North title. BYU would be a good move if the Big 12 could get them to join as they are on the rise and they could have good matchups vs. Kansas and Missouri but still it's not the same without Nebraska, Colorado is whatever but losing Nebraska is huge and makes the Big 12 North look like a bigger joke than they were. Also I wonder if this is the end of the shifting of conferences. There are still rumors of Syracuse, Rutgers and Notre Dame joining the Big Ten and the Big East would be left in a way worse shape and what would happen to that conference if they left so all in all still more intrigue to be had.
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Post by BRV on Jun 14, 2010 18:35:43 GMT -5
So now that the dust has settled on the alleged "conference Armageddon", I think we can all agree that very little has changed in the college football landscape.
The biggest move for the Pac-10 was not landing Colorado, but rather it was acquiring Utah. The Big Ten added Nebraska, which is arguably the biggest move out of all of this conference realignment, yet it is still not the earth-shattering move that Texas or Oklahoma to the Pac-10 would have been.
Ultimately, the Big XII is still in fine shape. They still have two consistent powerhouses, two legitimate National Championship contenders, in Oklahoma and Texas. If they can land BYU, it'd be a very exciting acquisition, as we will finally get the chance to see if BYU can hang with some of the most elite teams in college football.
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Post by Brick Killed a Guy on Jun 14, 2010 18:38:37 GMT -5
This thread needs a Final Thought from Jerry Springer.
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Post by Arturo Classico on Jun 14, 2010 18:49:15 GMT -5
So now that the dust has settled on the alleged "conference Armageddon", I think we can all agree that very little has changed in the college football landscape. The biggest move for the Pac-10 was not landing Colorado, but rather it was acquiring Utah. The Big Ten added Nebraska, which is arguably the biggest move out of all of this conference realignment, yet it is still not the earth-shattering move that Texas or Oklahoma to the Pac-10 would have been. Ultimately, the Big XII is still in fine shape. They still have two consistent powerhouses, two legitimate National Championship contenders, in Oklahoma and Texas. If they can land BYU, it'd be a very exciting acquisition, as we will finally get the chance to see if BYU can hang with some of the most elite teams in college football. Id say the real winners in this is the Big Ten and to a lesser extent the Pac Ten. Both conferences have been scoffed at for not having a conference championship and especially Big Ten for not having proven team in BCS Championship games, Pac Ten has had this to but not as much, as the Pac Ten team is usually USC who gets a pass all the time, even though their in-conference games generally are pretty easy. Also Nebraska in the Big Ten gives them another juggernaut and really makes the conference seem bigger and more interesting than it has in years and one has to wonder if this puts the Big Ten as the number two conference in America behind the SEC, the amount of great programs in the Big Ten is astounding and in my opinion no conference apart from the SEC can boast winning as many championships as the the Big Ten. Now if they could get Notre Dame to join the Big Ten.
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Post by Jay Carroll on Jun 14, 2010 18:49:44 GMT -5
This thread needs a Final Thought from Jerry Springer. I'd agree, but I don't think things are over yet.
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Post by sunwukong on Jun 14, 2010 19:39:48 GMT -5
So now that the dust has settled on the alleged "conference Armageddon", I think we can all agree that very little has changed in the college football landscape. The biggest move for the Pac-10 was not landing Colorado, but rather it was acquiring Utah. The Big Ten added Nebraska, which is arguably the biggest move out of all of this conference realignment, yet it is still not the earth-shattering move that Texas or Oklahoma to the Pac-10 would have been. Ultimately, the Big XII is still in fine shape. They still have two consistent powerhouses, two legitimate National Championship contenders, in Oklahoma and Texas. If they can land BYU, it'd be a very exciting acquisition, as we will finally get the chance to see if BYU can hang with some of the most elite teams in college football. Now if they could get Notre Dame to join the Big Ten. This is what I'm wondering about now. With conference implosion seemingly averted, it becomes less of an immediate imperative for Notre Dame to join the Big 10. Eventually, yeah, it'll likely happen, but the panic alarm has been shut off for now.
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Post by domrep on Jun 14, 2010 19:44:50 GMT -5
All of this fuss and only two teams jumped ship? One of which, Colorado, probably didn't make a lot of sense being in the Big 12 to begin with?
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Post by Jay Carroll on Jun 14, 2010 19:52:46 GMT -5
All of this fuss and only two teams jumped ship? One of which, Colorado, probably didn't make a lot of sense being in the Big 12 to begin with? In hindsight this is going to seem minor, and I can see a similar situation coming up within the next few years. College football is going to NEED to move to a playoff system sooner or later. Schools such as Texas are only going to get more greedy as things go along (Beebe's appeasement will only work for so long).
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