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Post by Jedi-El of Tomorrow on Jun 14, 2010 19:53:51 GMT -5
All of this fuss and only two teams jumped ship? One of which, Colorado, probably didn't make a lot of sense being in the Big 12 to begin with? Colorado made perfect sense to be in the Big XII. They were in the Big 8 since 1948, so they made sense to be in the Big XII. But damn, the Big XII North is a f***ing joke now. Mizzou is probably the most legit football team, they've got left. KU got to a BCS bowl a couple of years ago but that was thanks to a massively easy schedule. Before the BCS game they played 1 team that finished in the top 25, and they lost. They also played 0 non-conference games against a BCS school or away from home. I still think Mizzou deserved to go to a BCS game ahead of KU that year. The Big XII desperately needs to get BYU, just to give the North a good football team.
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Post by Lupin the Third on Jun 14, 2010 21:54:19 GMT -5
So if things stay as they are, which they probably won't, the Big XII will have 10 teams and the Big Ten will have 12 teams.
Does anyone else see the bats*** logic here?
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Post by Jay Carroll on Jun 14, 2010 22:03:54 GMT -5
All of this fuss and only two teams jumped ship? One of which, Colorado, probably didn't make a lot of sense being in the Big 12 to begin with? Colorado made perfect sense to be in the Big XII. They were in the Big 8 since 1948, so they made sense to be in the Big XII. But damn, the Big XII North is a f***ing joke now. Mizzou is probably the most legit football team, they've got left. KU got to a BCS bowl a couple of years ago but that was thanks to a massively easy schedule. Before the BCS game they played 1 team that finished in the top 25, and they lost. They also played 0 non-conference games against a BCS school or away from home. I still think Mizzou deserved to go to a BCS game ahead of KU that year. The Big XII desperately needs to get BYU, just to give the North a good football team. Colorado made sense in the Big XII, they just wanted to be in the Pac 10 badly for a while now, and had to "settle" for the Big XII. And, no, the North does not need any other teams. Mizzou will do just fine as the best football school in the North year in and year out
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Post by Drillbit Taylor on Jun 14, 2010 22:31:23 GMT -5
I just had a crazy idea.lol
The Big XII has nothing to loose, period. They are living on borrowed time now. Eventually Mizzou will bolt and then the 3 major Texas schools + Okie schools will leave.
But to prevent an error from happing again, why not go to 16 teams 1st. Build those schools up and then when they do bolt, the Baylors and K States will not be as abandoned they would being a group of 5.
Yes 10 that would be there Sans Texas, OU, Aggies, Tech Okie Light, and Mizzou would not be a power conference. But if they cherry pick the best that is out there then it can still be semi decent.
The Big schools then can go to the other huge conference, and the others will still have a conference for them.
If they stay, then they can add more teams to the big time fray and let them get more exposure.
Schools to Pick from. BYU AirForce Houston Memphis Hawaiʻi Central Florida East Carolina Utah State UTEP SMU
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Post by ICBM on Jun 14, 2010 22:57:38 GMT -5
Hmmm I got used to the idea of my beloved Aggies in the SEC and then it dosn't happen...Texas you are a ****tease
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Post by Drillbit Taylor on Jun 14, 2010 23:02:36 GMT -5
Hmmm I got used to the idea of my beloved Aggies in the SEC and then it dosn't happen...Texas you are a ****tease Yea its all Texas. The Aggies could have gone if they wanted too.
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Post by BRV on Jun 14, 2010 23:10:41 GMT -5
Hmmm I got used to the idea of my beloved Aggies in the SEC and then it dosn't happen...Texas you are a ****tease If certain reports are to believed, it is Texas A&M who got cold feet at the last second, leading to everyone staying put. Multiple reports said that Texas was waiting for A&M to make a decision before they decided if they would stay in the Big XII or go to the Pac-10.
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Post by Red Impact on Jun 14, 2010 23:15:30 GMT -5
And it was probably smart for A&M because, really, being a bottom dweller in the SEC isn't really more prestigious in being a bottom dweller in the Big 12.
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Post by Koda, Master Crunchyroller on Jun 15, 2010 1:00:17 GMT -5
Actually, if the Big 12 doesn't add any more teams, we won't have to worry about things like the Big 12 South and the Big 12 North. It'll be all 1 division. 9 of their 12 games will be against each other and then they'll get 3 non-conference games.
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Post by Drillbit Taylor on Jun 15, 2010 1:02:12 GMT -5
Actually, if the Big 12 doesn't add any more teams, we won't have to worry about things like the Big 12 South and the Big 12 North. It'll be all 1 division. 9 of their 12 games will be against each other and then they'll get 3 non-conference games. But that takes away the title game. And Jerry Jones is an idiot if he thinks that the OU v UT game needs to be in December.
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Post by Koda, Master Crunchyroller on Jun 15, 2010 1:04:38 GMT -5
Actually, if the Big 12 doesn't add any more teams, we won't have to worry about things like the Big 12 South and the Big 12 North. It'll be all 1 division. 9 of their 12 games will be against each other and then they'll get 3 non-conference games. But that takes away the title game. And Jerry Jones is an idiot if he thinks that the OU v UT game needs to be in December. Yes, it does take away the title game, but wasn't the title game in and of itself one of the reasons Nebraska bolted?
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Post by Drillbit Taylor on Jun 15, 2010 1:07:33 GMT -5
But that takes away the title game. And Jerry Jones is an idiot if he thinks that the OU v UT game needs to be in December. Yes, it does take away the title game, but wasn't the title game in and of itself one of the reasons Nebraska bolted? It being in Dallas was the main reason. They stopped going to Kansas since it was not as well attended as Dallas or Houston. And Big Red thought that it was Texas pulling all the strings keeping it in their back yard. But then again they were also the only team 10 or so years ago that voted against a title game.
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Post by Jedi-El of Tomorrow on Jun 15, 2010 1:21:52 GMT -5
Yes, it does take away the title game, but wasn't the title game in and of itself one of the reasons Nebraska bolted? It being in Dallas was the main reason. They stopped going to Kansas since it was not as well attended as Dallas or Houston. And Big Red thought that it was Texas pulling all the strings keeping it in their back yard. But then again they were also the only team 10 or so years ago that voted against a title game. They were also a team that voted against a more equal form of revenue sharing in the Big XII. That's because they were on top. And it just makes complete sense to hold the game in Dallas. Hold the game in Arrowhead or at JerryWorld? Of course you go for JerryWorld and Texas, where football is king. The really bad thing with Nebraska leaving, is that Nebraska and Oklahoma aren't in the same conference. It's the death of the OU Nebraska rivalry, unless they decide to play a yearly non-conference game against each other.
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Post by Drillbit Taylor on Jun 15, 2010 1:25:48 GMT -5
It being in Dallas was the main reason. They stopped going to Kansas since it was not as well attended as Dallas or Houston. And Big Red thought that it was Texas pulling all the strings keeping it in their back yard. But then again they were also the only team 10 or so years ago that voted against a title game. They were also a team that voted against a more equal form of revenue sharing in the Big XII. That's because they were on top. And it just makes complete sense to hold the game in Dallas. Hold the game in Arrowhead or at JerryWorld? Of course you go for JerryWorld and Texas, where football is king. The really bad thing with Nebraska leaving, is that Nebraska and Oklahoma aren't in the same conference. It's the death of the OU Nebraska rivalry, unless they decide to play a yearly non-conference game against each other. It actually makes it easier to schedule that now since you do not have to work with conference rules.
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Post by Jay Carroll on Jun 15, 2010 14:00:58 GMT -5
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Post by BearDogg-X on Jun 15, 2010 15:45:16 GMT -5
After their Board of Regents meeting, Texas Tech agrees to remain in the Big XII, according to RedRaiderSports.com's Chris Level on his Twitter.
But after hearing that Kansas, K-State, Mizzou, Baylor, and Iowa State agreed to give up their shares of Nebraska and Colorado's buyouts to Texas, A&M, and Oklahoma, I agree with a Florida fan's post on IAmThe12thMan.com:
"That’s not a conference you’ve got there, that’s a third-grade lunchroom, complete with bullies, toadies, and wimps."
I think that the Big XII will shows signs of crumbling again after a couple of years.
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Post by Drillbit Taylor on Jun 15, 2010 15:55:32 GMT -5
Oh yea. This is a temporary fix. Come a few years we will be right back at this again. But this gives Texas, OU and Aggies more time to plan everything out at their own time frame.
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Post by sunwukong on Jun 15, 2010 17:00:52 GMT -5
The thing is, those smaller schools have no leverage. They're going to fold to Texas's whims because what choice do they have? The power in the Big XII rests with Texas and, as a very distant second, Oklahoma. Everything else is window dressing.
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Post by andrew8798 on Jun 15, 2010 18:05:07 GMT -5
Utah has given notice to the Mountain West that they're moving. They haven't gotten an official offer from the Pac Ten yet, but it's inevitable.
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Post by Jay Carroll on Jun 15, 2010 18:25:56 GMT -5
Giving up those shares to Texas and OU? Understandable, even if I'm not exactly enamored with doing that.
A&M? F*** A&M. Who did they ever beat? In what universe does Texas A&M really matter in? (No offense to any alumni that may be on these boards.)
This whole thing sucks. I'd almost rather have had the Big XII be obliterated than the convoluted BS that is going on right now.
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