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Post by Error on Mar 4, 2010 18:41:12 GMT -5
Hope he does a few indy shows first to scrape off the thick layer of ring rust he has probably developed. It's not like he hasn't wrestled since leaving WWE. While not regular in matches, he's been working with guys and has wrestled quite a few matches overseas and a couple in LA a month or so back. Plus it's not like he was fluid in the ring to start with. RVD said in interviews that he would only work with the top level guys if he went to TNA. So all those who think he coming in to put over people like Daniels, Kaz, Young, or Wolfe, prepare to be disappointed. Well, three of those are being treated as major players in TNA.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 4, 2010 18:49:42 GMT -5
Great move. I can see a great series of matches with him and AJ Styles.
I am really excited about TNA now. You got the "young stars"/originals like Styles, Pope, Joe, Abyss, Morgan, etc, getting pushed while also throwing in the vets like Angle, Hardy, RVD, Anderson, etc. Plus the "old timers" like Hogan, Flair, Foley, Nash, The Band, Jarrett, etc. A lot of names and not enough airtime, but we'll see how it plays out.
Really like this move. Screw the haters. ;D RVD may not be a huge money draw, but he is/was a star and can still go. Looking forward to him and Hardy being full-time guys. Let them smoke as much pot as they want for all I care. It's their lives.
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Post by Back to being Cenanuff on Mar 4, 2010 19:26:45 GMT -5
Now watch, he'll have outstanding drug warrants in Florida, and the cops will meet him at the airport.
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Post by derrtaysouth95 on Mar 4, 2010 19:37:23 GMT -5
I've been hoping he'd return to WWE because I know he sees TNA as inferior just based on what he has personally said.
But, I guess he needs a job/steady paycheck and TNA can give him that with a schedule he can deal with.
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Post by GaTechGrad on Mar 4, 2010 19:38:41 GMT -5
Is Tommy Dreamers' 3 month no-compete up yet? I could see them doing an ECW invasion with RVD, Sabu, and Dreamer. Maybe they could even dig up the Sandman.
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Post by jobsquad on Mar 4, 2010 19:46:09 GMT -5
I think if anyone could be a game changer for TNA it is RVD. So ... Angle (former multiple-time WWE World Champion and Olympic gold medalist), Nash (multiple world champion in two feds), Foley (champion, hardcore legend), and Hogan (duh) weren't enough? RVD is the key to TNA's success? I'm sorry, but no. RVD will not bump ratings. RVD will not bump buyrates. They have a hard enough time getting everybody on the roster on the show as is, let alone squeezing one more person in there. I like RVD, don't get me wrong, but if none of the other "MAJOR SIGNINGS" TNA has had in their tenure did the trick -- and they were all men with better resumes than RVD -- than this won't be the golden ticket. Jed Shaffer ~The smog forecast for Orlando suddenly got really bad. That's how I feel about it. Right now you have like 10 famous people that might pull in the numbers, and a bunch of relatively unknowns. I mean, RVD fans may buy one PPV, and if it is bad, then you've lost them. The other RVD fans that liked him in the WWE will probably think it is not worth watching the whole 2 hours if RVD is not on. However, it could be a huge bump, but I don't know. If anything, TNA still comes off like a Heroes of Wrestling type deal in how they use these guys.
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Post by Error on Mar 4, 2010 19:46:16 GMT -5
Is Tommy Dreamers' 3 month no-compete up yet? I could see them doing an ECW invasion with RVD, Sabu, and Dreamer. Maybe they could even dig up the Sandman. Not for a month or so. Probably around Mania time. Also, MOD NOTE: NO MORE TALK MARIJUANA IN THIS THREAD.
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Post by "The Rated XXX Superstar" Jed on Mar 4, 2010 19:51:45 GMT -5
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Post by jobsquad on Mar 4, 2010 19:54:55 GMT -5
One other thing: I hope he brings his ECW character with him and not the WWE one. I hated his WWE 'dude, whatever' character. I know he is probably like that, but I would much rather see the Mr Monday Night version.
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Post by franchisedavis on Mar 4, 2010 19:58:38 GMT -5
I have always been a big fan of RVD, the nice thing about TNA is they will give him long matches like he had in ECW, at least I hope.
I'm excited
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Post by Deleted on Mar 4, 2010 20:07:43 GMT -5
So ... Angle (former multiple-time WWE World Champion and Olympic gold medalist), Nash (multiple world champion in two feds), Foley (champion, hardcore legend), and Hogan (duh) weren't enough? RVD is the key to TNA's success? I'm sorry, but no. RVD will not bump ratings. RVD will not bump buyrates. They have a hard enough time getting everybody on the roster on the show as is, let alone squeezing one more person in there. I like RVD, don't get me wrong, but if none of the other "MAJOR SIGNINGS" TNA has had in their tenure did the trick -- and they were all men with better resumes than RVD -- than this won't be the golden ticket. Jed Shaffer ~The smog forecast for Orlando suddenly got really bad. That's how I feel about it. Right now you have like 10 famous people that might pull in the numbers, and a bunch of relatively unknowns. I mean, RVD fans may buy one PPV, and if it is bad, then you've lost them. The other RVD fans that liked him in the WWE will probably think it is not worth watching the whole 2 hours if RVD is not on. However, it could be a huge bump, but I don't know. If anything, TNA still comes off like a Heroes of Wrestling type deal in how they use these guys. Agreed with both of you that RVD does not have the name value that some of the other guys TNA has brought in (Hogan, Sting, Angle, Flair, Foley, Nash, etc). He's not a guy who is going to bump buyrates with his presence alone. I mean, Hogan's first TNA segment drew their quarter hour ratings record (I think it was a 1.9 rating or close to that up against Bret's 12-year return). Hogan was TNA's ticket. RVD is not anywhere near that. Only Rock, Austin, and maybe Cena can make a big dent for TNA at this point. However, like I said before, RVD was a star for WWE. He was a former world champion, IC champion, and consistently popular among the WWE fan base. I don't know how much his ECW (90's) background really matters at this point, but I guess that's a positive for him as well. He'll be a positive for a company; a familar face for casual fans and a good worker that should present interesting and fresh match-ups. I'm looking forward to it. Although, IMO, Jeff Hardy was the much bigger signing. He was basically WWE's #1 face behind Cena in 2009.
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Post by Michael Coello on Mar 4, 2010 20:17:21 GMT -5
The funny thing is that TNA is mad that this got out and wasn't a surprise. How ass-backwards is that? More people will watch knowing RVD will show up. Same thing with Jeff Hardy. You promote the top stars. TNA's obsession with keeping new signers under wraps is hilarious. Cause it worked well as a secret when Kurt Angle signed. It got a big reaction and everything. Plus, some things work better if they're secret.
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Post by Mozenrath on Mar 4, 2010 20:20:38 GMT -5
Anyone want to take bets on the first guy he stiffs with a kick and injures?
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Post by jobsquad on Mar 4, 2010 20:27:38 GMT -5
Anyone want to take bets on the first guy he stiffs with a kick and injures? I was under the assumption that WWE broke him of that stuff? I know for awhile(01-04) he was held back to learn a lot of stuff, even though he was over enough to be in the main events. I also thought that was one of the points with sticking him with Kane?
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Post by Mighty Attack Tribble on Mar 4, 2010 20:28:34 GMT -5
I'll certainly check out his debut, but it'll take a lot more than RVD to make me sit through the pain of an entire iMPACT. Ten months ago and I'd have been really excited.
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Post by jobsquad on Mar 4, 2010 20:38:31 GMT -5
That's how I feel about it. Right now you have like 10 famous people that might pull in the numbers, and a bunch of relatively unknowns. I mean, RVD fans may buy one PPV, and if it is bad, then you've lost them. The other RVD fans that liked him in the WWE will probably think it is not worth watching the whole 2 hours if RVD is not on. However, it could be a huge bump, but I don't know. If anything, TNA still comes off like a Heroes of Wrestling type deal in how they use these guys. Agreed with both of you that RVD does not have the name value that some of the other guys TNA has brought in (Hogan, Sting, Angle, Flair, Foley, Nash, etc). He's not a guy who is going to bump buyrates with his presence alone. I mean, Hogan's first TNA segment drew their quarter hour ratings record (I think it was a 1.9 rating or close to that up against Bret's 12-year return). Hogan was TNA's ticket. RVD is not anywhere near that. Only Rock, Austin, and maybe Cena can make a big dent for TNA at this point. However, like I said before, RVD was a star for WWE. He was a former world champion, IC champion, and consistently popular among the WWE fan base. I don't know how much his ECW (90's) background really matters at this point, but I guess that's a positive for him as well. He'll be a positive for a company; a familar face for casual fans and a good worker that should present interesting and fresh match-ups. I'm looking forward to it. Although, IMO, Jeff Hardy was the much bigger signing. He was basically WWE's #1 face behind Cena in 2009. Oh, yeah, I am sure he will be much added fire power, but not a drastic 2 point increase in ratings, that is all I am saying. His matches will end up drawing the highest quarters though, and if he comes in with a good angle behind him, then it adds alot of momentum. However I fear he will randomly show up, frog splash someone random, have a small feud, and end up being utilized in a 'small picture' type of way. If it's me booking, he is announced as a major signing, and his first match is scheduled for the PPV this month, and it is against someone like Daniels that will guarantee a 5 star match. Then, theoretically, RVD wins but puts Daniels over as one of his toughest opponents ever, and it gets him over as well, even if he is a heel. That way, you get the rub put on someone and RVD gets a great debut. Anyone could be placed in Daniels's spot, he is just the best example I can think of for people without stories. He has to be used correctly and not treated as a gimmick, which seems to be the way most of these acquisitions end up in the eyes of normal fans. My proof is that the huge names came and went with very little ratings increase.
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Post by jobsquad on Mar 4, 2010 20:41:35 GMT -5
The funny thing is that TNA is mad that this got out and wasn't a surprise. How ass-backwards is that? More people will watch knowing RVD will show up. Same thing with Jeff Hardy. You promote the top stars. TNA's obsession with keeping new signers under wraps is hilarious. Cause it worked well as a secret when Kurt Angle signed. It got a big reaction and everything. Plus, some things work better if they're secret. In this case, announcing it on Monday comes off as a huge surprise, and people will want to watch or at least DVR the show to not miss it. It is all about the atmosphere they create. Just simply advertising it may get you one nights ratings, but coming in as a surprise sets the tone of 'you can't miss it'. This is a lot like when Luger just randomly wondered into the first Nitro. The announcement would have killed the eventual vibe.
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Post by HMARK Center on Mar 5, 2010 0:11:48 GMT -5
RVD isn't anything resembling a "game changer", and I've never been a huge fan of his, but he does bring some flare, name recognition, plus I do think he and Styles could put on a pretty good showcase in a few matches against one another.
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Post by Mozenrath on Mar 5, 2010 0:36:32 GMT -5
Anyone want to take bets on the first guy he stiffs with a kick and injures? I was under the assumption that WWE broke him of that stuff? I know for awhile(01-04) he was held back to learn a lot of stuff, even though he was over enough to be in the main events. I also thought that was one of the points with sticking him with Kane? No idea. I know he broke Edge's jaw with a roundhouse.
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Post by Bravo Echo November on Mar 5, 2010 1:11:49 GMT -5
IF this is true (always take Hogan's teases with a grain of salt) I hope RVD Vs. Styles gets plenty of build-up and not hot-shotted like Joe Vs. Angle. I will order the PPV that has the match regardless of the rest of the card.
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