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Post by Paco on Mar 5, 2010 1:41:15 GMT -5
One other thing: I hope he brings his ECW character with him and not the WWE one. I hated his WWE 'dude, whatever' character. I know he is probably like that, but I would much rather see the Mr Monday Night version. He isn't. RVD has said he didn't really like his WWE character. Too one-dimensional. The writers would never let RVD go deeper than, as you put it, "Dude, Whatever".
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Post by AriadosMan on Mar 5, 2010 1:48:37 GMT -5
I don't like this. TNA's roster is far too big for the amount of airtime/belts that they have already. They don't need another guy to deemphasize their existing talent even further. TNA is like a little kid who keeps requesting action figures and forgetting about the ones they already have.
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Post by travis on Mar 5, 2010 2:58:13 GMT -5
People who think theyre going to get the ECW RVD from back in the day are in for a disappointment. He lacks the passion and is only signed due to a good payday with a schedule to his liking. I've heard about his PWG match and his matches overseas. He came off like he was phoning it in for a paycheck. This will not work out like people hope especially considering his attitude, TNA's booking and their way of making people come off more meaningless.
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Post by Cranjis McBasketball on Mar 5, 2010 2:59:41 GMT -5
Hmmmmmmmm, might have to finally check out some TNA seriously.
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Post by NIXON on Mar 5, 2010 10:35:25 GMT -5
Does he get to be Rob Van Dam or does Vince own that now? Or is Dan Van Rob coming to the impact zone? Set your DVR's to catch DVR live Monday March 8th! Sorry...
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Post by Deleted on Mar 5, 2010 10:49:22 GMT -5
Does he get to be Rob Van Dam or does Vince own that now? Or is Dan Van Rob coming to the impact zone? Set your DVR's to catch DVR live Monday March 8th! Sorry... I almost wish Vince started copyrighting ABSOLUTELY everything possible for when wrestlers leave his company. Tenay: "What's Ron Van Dyke doing here in the Impact Zone? IS HE GONNA!? OHHH!!! HE HITS THAT PATENTED A+ TOAD SMASH OF THE TOP ROPE!! LOOK HOW PLEASED WITH HIMSELF HE IS!!!" Taz: "Believe me, that Van Dyke is one cocky dude, Mike. You know he calls himself "the entire freaking program?"
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Post by Ben Wyatt on Mar 5, 2010 11:40:28 GMT -5
Meh.
He is roughly the 12th "game changer" they've brought in. He can help if used right, but that's the key phrase
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Post by Spankymac is sick of the swiss on Mar 5, 2010 11:43:51 GMT -5
Wow another overrated "big" signing to an already bloated roster.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 5, 2010 11:47:00 GMT -5
Mmmm fresh young talent
Paul Burchill and Charlie Haas are unemployed but TNA signs there second WWE Champion with a Drug Record
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Post by nerdinitupagain on Mar 5, 2010 12:16:48 GMT -5
Mmmm fresh young talent Paul Burchill and Charlie Haas are unemployed but TNA signs there second WWE Champion with a Drug Record Because Paul and Charlie are going to move 1/10th combined of what RVD would in merchandise? I'm sorry, Van Dam is actually someone that's still fairly relevant and would get attention from WWE viewers. Hardy vs Van Dam may be a spot fest, but it is a match WWE fans would wanna see. Plus... Van Dam vs Styles Van Dam vs Joe Van Dam vs Kaz Van Dam vs Desmond Van Dam vs Angle And one that I mark to see.. Van Dam vs Sting Plus Bischoff loves RVD, would push him right, and knows if he lets RVD be RVD, Van Dam will bring the passion.
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Post by Spankymac is sick of the swiss on Mar 5, 2010 12:21:26 GMT -5
Mmmm fresh young talent Paul Burchill and Charlie Haas are unemployed but TNA signs there second WWE Champion with a Drug Record Because Paul and Charlie are going to move 1/10th combined of what RVD would in merchandise? I'm sorry, Van Dam is actually someone that's still fairly relevant and would get attention from WWE viewers. Hardy vs Van Dam may be a spot fest, but it is a match WWE fans would wanna see. Plus... Van Dam vs Styles Van Dam vs Joe Van Dam vs Kaz Van Dam vs Desmond Van Dam vs Angle And one that I mark to see.. Van Dam vs Sting Plus Bischoff loves RVD, would push him right, and knows if he lets RVD be RVD, Van Dam will bring the passion. What's great is, all those Van Dam matches will be the SAME match. Rob kicks, throws sloppy forearms, tosses a chair at someone, then hits the frogsplash. It'll be the same across the board, sadly. RVD is the most overrated talent of the modern era, by far.
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Post by HMARK Center on Mar 5, 2010 13:19:41 GMT -5
Because Paul and Charlie are going to move 1/10th combined of what RVD would in merchandise? I'm sorry, Van Dam is actually someone that's still fairly relevant and would get attention from WWE viewers. Hardy vs Van Dam may be a spot fest, but it is a match WWE fans would wanna see. Plus... Van Dam vs Styles Van Dam vs Joe Van Dam vs Kaz Van Dam vs Desmond Van Dam vs Angle And one that I mark to see.. Van Dam vs Sting Plus Bischoff loves RVD, would push him right, and knows if he lets RVD be RVD, Van Dam will bring the passion. What's great is, all those Van Dam matches will be the SAME match. Rob kicks, throws sloppy forearms, tosses a chair at someone, then hits the frogsplash. It'll be the same across the board, sadly. RVD is the most overrated talent of the modern era, by far. I don't disagree (like I said, not a huge Van Dam fan at all), but it's hard to deny that the guy will at least bring a little buzz. It won't be a "game changer", like I said before; really, there ARE NO MORE GAME CHANGERS IN WRESTLING.Austin or Rock, maybe, but people need to start accepting that wrestling simply isn't accepted like it used to be. TNA's brought in everybody under the sun, WWE finally brought back Bret Hart after all those years, shows have gone through stretches of high quality, etc., but the numbers for almost every wrestling show on TV remain stagnant, for the most part. TNA stands to grab a bit of the already existing Monday night audience if they do decently with this show, but this is the reality of wrestling today.
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Post by Can you afford to pay me, Gah on Mar 5, 2010 13:20:28 GMT -5
I think if anyone could be a game changer for TNA it is RVD. So ... Angle (former multiple-time WWE World Champion and Olympic gold medalist), Nash (multiple world champion in two feds), Foley (champion, hardcore legend), and Hogan (duh) weren't enough? RVD is the key to TNA's success? I'm sorry, but no. RVD will not bump ratings. RVD will not bump buyrates. They have a hard enough time getting everybody on the roster on the show as is, let alone squeezing one more person in there. I like RVD, don't get me wrong, but if none of the other "MAJOR SIGNINGS" TNA has had in their tenure did the trick -- and they were all men with better resumes than RVD -- than this won't be the golden ticket. Jed Shaffer ~The smog forecast for Orlando suddenly got really bad. I gotta agree with you. The thing is non of those names did a huge improvement the company on a stats level. The ratings did not job in a huge way or did the buyrates. That reason is not the talent itself. It's TNA lack of advertising. If everyone knew that these guys where there. Numbers should been bigger. I always believed that Angle SHOULD have done to TNA what Hogan did to WCW in 94 in a way. I would expected a ratings spike and a buyrate spike. But that didn't happen. Hogan himself didn't greatly improve ratings. They are still getting no better then a 1.4. Which TNA before Hogan was weekly getting 1.2. Sometimes a 1.3. Now had the ratings went to 2.0 then I'll call that an improvement. RVD is a great signing. The guys as always been popular and had a cult following. But is he going to change the company in a way Angle or Hogan did? I agree no he won't. If they Advertise them all over the media. Yeah it should improved the numbers.
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Post by Diamond Dallas Dom on Mar 5, 2010 13:38:08 GMT -5
Well, obviously I'm pumped. Now TNA just needs to cut out the three-match Impact crap.
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Post by jobsquad on Mar 5, 2010 16:43:22 GMT -5
What's great is, all those Van Dam matches will be the SAME match. Rob kicks, throws sloppy forearms, tosses a chair at someone, then hits the frogsplash. It'll be the same across the board, sadly. RVD is the most overrated talent of the modern era, by far. I don't disagree (like I said, not a huge Van Dam fan at all), but it's hard to deny that the guy will at least bring a little buzz. It won't be a "game changer", like I said before; really, there ARE NO MORE GAME CHANGERS IN WRESTLING.Austin or Rock, maybe, but people need to start accepting that wrestling simply isn't accepted like it used to be. TNA's brought in everybody under the sun, WWE finally brought back Bret Hart after all those years, shows have gone through stretches of high quality, etc., but the numbers for almost every wrestling show on TV remain stagnant, for the most part. TNA stands to grab a bit of the already existing Monday night audience if they do decently with this show, but this is the reality of wrestling today. Well, I certainly agree with him having the same match everytime. As for 'game changers', all we really have to compare it to is old WCW. In popularity, I would peg TNA somewhere between 91-92 WCW. Bringing in bigger stars like Van Dam is reminiscent of them bringing in Rick Rude or Jake the Snake during those times. Hogan added instant credibility because, at that time, he was the biggest wrestling star in the world, and he was alone at the top of the mountain. But it took the NWO angle for the brand to overtake WWE, so it proves it is how you use the characters that is important. If TNA brought in Austin, it would be huge, but since he can't wrestle, I'd expect it to end up not really doing anything, like if WCW brought in an old, broken down Hogan to WCW (LOL it still worked). The Rock would be differant, but I bet he can't be 'the Rock', and Dwayne Johnson without the name is not as valuable if you are promoting wrestling. It would be like an Auhnold movie where two competing cyborg movies want his services, but he can only be the Terminator in one, and some unknown cyborg in the other. It just wouldn't work.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 5, 2010 17:06:39 GMT -5
RVD is my favorite wrestler, and it's about time for my quarterly attempt to be a TNA fan. I'll at least watch the show he debuts on.
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Post by Natalya's Ass Fanboy on Mar 5, 2010 17:51:14 GMT -5
I highly doubt anyone in TNA's management expects R.V.D. to be a major ratings mover in and of himself. More likely, they see him as a "name" guy who can bolster their already impressive roster while putting on great matches. Another piece to the puzzle of eventually becoming a top-tier wrestling company.
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Post by jobsquad on Mar 5, 2010 17:58:27 GMT -5
One other thing: I hope he brings his ECW character with him and not the WWE one. I hated his WWE 'dude, whatever' character. I know he is probably like that, but I would much rather see the Mr Monday Night version. He isn't. RVD has said he didn't really like his WWE character. Too one-dimensional. The writers would never let RVD go deeper than, as you put it, "Dude, Whatever". That is great assuming it happens.
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Post by donners on Mar 5, 2010 20:38:51 GMT -5
What's great is, all those Van Dam matches will be the SAME match. Rob kicks, throws sloppy forearms, tosses a chair at someone, then hits the frogsplash. It'll be the same across the board, sadly. RVD is the most overrated talent of the modern era, by far. Very true. If I see an Indi Applause Stance, I'm throwing something at the TV.
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Post by Bub (BLM) on Mar 6, 2010 5:16:36 GMT -5
One other thing: I hope he brings his ECW character with him and not the WWE one. I hated his WWE 'dude, whatever' character. I know he is probably like that, but I would much rather see the Mr Monday Night version. Don't worry, RVD hated his WWE character, too. He's said many times that he was much more himself in ECW, so that's probably what we'll be getting in TNA. Personally, I'm really happy about this news. RVD is my favorite wrestler of all time, so it really makes me glad that I'll get to watch him a bit more before he's too old to go. Van Dam is still in better shape at 39 than a lot of guys are at 30, so I'm not really concerned about his age at all. And hey, he was smart enough to protect his name so that WWE couldn't keep it after his contract ended, so we'll actually get to see Rob Van Dam and not Robbie V. Also, Bill Alfonso lives in Florida. TNA, for the love of god please hire Fonzie.
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