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Post by comahan on Mar 16, 2010 19:17:57 GMT -5
Which older guys are dominating, though? Hogan and Flair are more in non-wrestler roles. Hall and Waltman barely wrestle, and are just involved in their feud with Nash and Young. Nasties are the same,except it's with Team 3D. Who are the people getting buried? All of the titles and big moments in the company focus around the young guys, or guys who can go in the ring. It seems like people just like to pick a few bad parts of teh show and attribute it to everything. What storylines have been dominating the show? Hogan/Bischoff vs Sting (w/ RVD on the side) The Nasty Boys vs 3D Jeff Jarret and Bischoff Foley and Bischoff The Band turmoil Are the young guys getting buried? Technically yes, because they barely get TV time over the older guys. Bleh, dont add Nasty's/3D to that list. They have a segment every 2 weeks, if that. Thats not dominating the show. |
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Post by DrizzlinShytes on Mar 16, 2010 19:19:39 GMT -5
So taped, very lackluster iMPACT only lost 20% of it's audience from the week before? Not bad. Not good either, but I was expecting a tidal wave. These Impact rating threads are going to get better and better as the weeks go by. I can't wait for all the rationalizations to appear. |
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Post by donners on Mar 16, 2010 19:19:53 GMT -5
skimmed through it today, and other than Ric busting himself open I didn't care for the show. That said, I think TNA needs to kill the taped shows. That would rack up even more costs, increase worker fatigue and interfere with house show/touring schedules. I don't see the benefit being worth it - but then, I don't see the benefit of being on Mondays at all. Live on another night may be a different story. |
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Post by Michael Coello on Mar 16, 2010 19:22:55 GMT -5
Which older guys are dominating, though? Hogan and Flair are more in non-wrestler roles. Hall and Waltman barely wrestle, and are just involved in their feud with Nash and Young. Nasties are the same,except it's with Team 3D. Who are the people getting buried? All of the titles and big moments in the company focus around the young guys, or guys who can go in the ring. It seems like people just like to pick a few bad parts of teh show and attribute it to everything. What storylines have been dominating the show? Hogan/Bischoff vs Sting (w/ RVD on the side) The Nasty Boys vs 3D Jeff Jarret and Bischoff Foley and Bischoff The Band turmoil Are the young guys getting buried? Technically yes, because they barely get TV time over the older guys. Yeah, cause the Nasties have been taking so much time , having like 3 appearances since January 4th. Besides these angles, we've had angles involving Beer Money, Pope, Wolfe, The Knockouts, the X-Division, Morgan, Hernandez, and a bunch of other people who have much bigger impact than some of the angles involving the older guys. |
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Post by Greer on Mar 16, 2010 19:27:11 GMT -5
What storylines have been dominating the show? Hogan/Bischoff vs Sting (w/ RVD on the side) The Nasty Boys vs 3D Jeff Jarret and Bischoff Foley and Bischoff The Band turmoil Are the young guys getting buried? Technically yes, because they barely get TV time over the older guys. Bleh, dont add Nasty's/3D to that list. They have a segment every 2 weeks, if that. Thats not dominating the show. Ok fair enough, and as for the other things on the list? Hogan is on just about most of the primary segments and storylines. The biggest storyline in the company right now is Hogan/Sting. Sound familiar? Oh and by the way, Hogan main evented last week, and if you think that was his last match, you are smoking that RVD stuff. |
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Post by Orange on Mar 16, 2010 19:27:14 GMT -5
What storylines have been dominating the show? Hogan/Bischoff vs Sting (w/ RVD on the side) The Nasty Boys vs 3D Jeff Jarret and Bischoff Foley and Bischoff The Band turmoil Are the young guys getting buried? Technically yes, because they barely get TV time over the older guys. Yeah, cause the Nasties have been taking so much time , having like 3 appearances since January 4th. Besides these angles, we've had angles involving Beer Money, Pope, Wolfe, The Knockouts, the X-Division, Morgan, Hernandez, and a bunch of other people who have much bigger impact than some of the angles involving the older guys. Bingo Sinister, the old guys are there too, sure, but the young guys are being showcased just as much. Some people would rather look at the old guys and say TNA is not showcasing the homegrown talent and youngery guys, but when AJ Styles is your world champ, Wolfe & Pope are in tag matches with Angle and Anderson, and Beer Money is being showcased as one of the hottest tag teams in the company right now, the young dudes are getting by just fine. I think having some of the older guys is necessary right now to maybe try and lure in some older fans of WCW who gave up on WWE, or have just stopped watching wrestling altogether. Hook them in with the older guys' storylines, but then also give them the younger guys to show it's not just WCW 2.0 |
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Post by minigolfhool on Mar 16, 2010 19:29:04 GMT -5
Hornswaggle seems to be a draw, when I remember some newsstories correctly, with kids which means he's selling tickets, which would mean more revenue for the WWE. We might hate him, but as long as the kids want to see him he won't vanish from our screens. Why should he? He's probably working under pretty inexpensive contract, isn't really in danger of injuring himself with the stuff he's doing in the ring and can be used as a reason to show how the WWE is a perfectly suited for family members of all ages. It's probably a winning situation for all involved parties.
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Post by Orange on Mar 16, 2010 19:29:33 GMT -5
Bleh, dont add Nasty's/3D to that list. They have a segment every 2 weeks, if that. Thats not dominating the show. Oh and by the way, Hogan main evented last week, and if you think that was his last match, you are smoking that RVD stuff. But Hogan is the kayfabe authority figure and main guy at the company, he's supposed to be showcased. If they brought in Hogan only to not have him in storylines and segments, then what was the point? |
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Post by ICBM on Mar 16, 2010 19:33:51 GMT -5
A lot of people just jumping to call it a failure. I'd hate to see these guys when WCW Nitro was doing better than RAW for weeks and weeks. Second or third week, and there'd be calls to move to a different night before the WWF died. Good point, but there is some truth to the negative posting here. Right now the product is so different from two months ago it is easy to call it dis-jointed and without logice. It looks different. you are used to Thursday Impact looking and flowing a certain way. it is now drasticlly different and you havn't caught pace with it yet so it is easy to point at it and say it's bad. I also agree that if the company is in it for the long haul than i am willing to sit right here, watch it and see if it happens. Remember how bad Nitro and Thunder got because they rushed into anything they thought would pull them into the fight? I don't want them to do that here and lose my show again. So if they need to put recognizable faces on tv to draw in old fans for a while I don't mind. pope will still be there in 6 months so will Morgan, Hernandez, Beer Money and JJ. I would like to see a step in the right direction too IE: a 1.5 again would be great to see, but I am realistic and patient |
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Post by Greer on Mar 16, 2010 19:36:06 GMT -5
What storylines have been dominating the show? Hogan/Bischoff vs Sting (w/ RVD on the side) The Nasty Boys vs 3D Jeff Jarret and Bischoff Foley and Bischoff The Band turmoil Are the young guys getting buried? Technically yes, because they barely get TV time over the older guys. Yeah, cause the Nasties have been taking so much time , having like 3 appearances since January 4th. Besides these angles, we've had angles involving Beer Money, Pope, Wolfe, The Knockouts, the X-Division, Morgan, Hernandez, and a bunch of other people who have much bigger impact than some of the angles involving the older guys. I cant even call Pope/Wolfe an angle at the moment. They have 5 minute matches every week. Okay...and? Shannon Moore is getting an X division title shot already, while there are about 10 guys in that division sitting in the back who have been with the company for how long? Beer Money is finally back, yes, with Eric Bischoff. How are they being showcased as the most dominant tag team? By not being on tv for the past month and then returning with a lousy forced heel turn, followed by beating up Jeff Jarret? Morgan/Hernandez do have an anlge. Heres the thing: The angles I listed above take up more TV time than the angles you listed. The biggest storyline of the company is Sting/Hogan. The main storyline Sting vs Hulk Hogan. Would I be surprised if it leads to a Sting/Hogan match? Absolutely not. My point is, why should the young guys even need to battle for tv time? They should be getting all of it. |
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Post by comahan on Mar 16, 2010 19:40:57 GMT -5
Bleh, dont add Nasty's/3D to that list. They have a segment every 2 weeks, if that. Thats not dominating the show. Ok fair enough, and as for the other things on the list? Hogan is on just about most of the primary segments and storylines. The biggest storyline in the company right now is Hogan/Sting. Sound familiar? Oh and by the way, Hogan main evented last week, and if you think that was his last match, you are smoking that RVD stuff. If Id have disagreed with the others, Id have pointed that out  I do agree with some things, ya know. Just because I dont focus on negatives all the time (for either company), and just like to argue about why I LIKE things instead of why I hate them doesnt mean that I'll jump on anyone that dislikes TNA. Theres plenty about the company that I dont like, I just dont enjoy being negative about it, and would much rather just post about the stuff I like. And when I argue in favor of things, its because I like it and disagree with it (typically) getting trashed. Like the Beer Money angle. I think its been well done, and will argue against the opinion of it making no sense. |
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Post by Greer on Mar 16, 2010 19:42:24 GMT -5
Ok fair enough, and as for the other things on the list? Hogan is on just about most of the primary segments and storylines. The biggest storyline in the company right now is Hogan/Sting. Sound familiar?Oh and by the way, Hogan main evented last week, and if you think that was his last match, you are smoking that RVD stuff. But Hogan is the kayfabe authority figure and main guy at the company, he's supposed to be showcased. If they brought in Hogan only to not have him in storylines and segments, then what was the point? The problem is, he will wrestle again. He will eventually have a match with Sting to "settle the score once and for all". He can be in segments, but does he need to be involved in THE major angle of the company? It feels like the entire company is revolved around Hogan. Just rename it Total Nonstop Hogan. |
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Post by Michael Coello on Mar 16, 2010 19:42:28 GMT -5
Yeah, cause the Nasties have been taking so much time , having like 3 appearances since January 4th. Besides these angles, we've had angles involving Beer Money, Pope, Wolfe, The Knockouts, the X-Division, Morgan, Hernandez, and a bunch of other people who have much bigger impact than some of the angles involving the older guys. I cant even call Pope/Wolfe an angle at the moment. They have matches every week. Okay...and? Shannon Moore is getting an X division title shot already, while there are about 10 guys in that division sitting in the back who have been with the company for how long? Beer Money is finally back, yes, with Eric Bischoff. Morgan/Hernandez do have an anlge. Heres the thing: The angles I listed above take up more TV time than the angles you listed. The biggest storyline of the company is Sting/Hogan. The main storyline Sting vs Hulk Hogan. Would I be surprised if it leads to a Sting/Hogan match? Absolutely not. My point is, why should the young guys even need to battle for tv time? They should be getting all of it. That's one show. Hell, there as an episode where the Machine Guns got more time than anyone else on the roster.Guess the X-Division was taking too much of the show. The Knockouts had all all-Knockout show on New Years. They must be the biggest angle of the company. The Band, Nash, and Young got a lot of time during one show. It must be all about them, then. Just cause there's a show with a specific build doesn't mean it's all about them. And the whole "They should be getting all of it" sounds ignorant. You don't build a show around just new guys, and you don't build a show around just old guys. You have that mix to getting everythign working. |
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Post by Greer on Mar 16, 2010 19:45:12 GMT -5
Ok fair enough, and as for the other things on the list? Hogan is on just about most of the primary segments and storylines. The biggest storyline in the company right now is Hogan/Sting. Sound familiar? Oh and by the way, Hogan main evented last week, and if you think that was his last match, you are smoking that RVD stuff. If Id have disagreed with the others, Id have pointed that out I do agree with some things, ya know. Just because I dont focus on negatives all the time (for either company), and just like to argue about why I LIKE things instead of why I hate them doesnt mean that I'll jump on anyone that dislikes TNA. Theres plenty about the company that I dont like, I just dont enjoy being negative about it, and would much rather just post about the stuff I like. And when I argue in favor of things, its because I like it and disagree with it (typically) getting trashed. Like the Beer Money angle. I think its been well done, and will argue against the opinion of it making no sense. Fair enough. I want to like TNA but some things just frustrate me because I try to like it and support it, but they just do things that are not going to help them in the long run. There are some good things in TNA. But if you want to get better ratings, get noticed and be competitive, it's only right to point out what's wrong and needs to be fixed. If you don't address the negatives, you won't know what to fix. |
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Post by Citizen Grimm on Mar 16, 2010 19:45:02 GMT -5
Ok fair enough, and as for the other things on the list? Hogan is on just about most of the primary segments and storylines. The biggest storyline in the company right now is Hogan/Sting. Sound familiar?Oh and by the way, Hogan main evented last week, and if you think that was his last match, you are smoking that RVD stuff. But Hogan is the kayfabe authority figure and main guy at the company, he's supposed to be showcased. If they brought in Hogan only to not have him in storylines and segments, then what was the point? The problem is that Hogan, like Bischoff, is in almost every single segment. It is fine to have Hogan involved with the Flair, Abyss, and AJ. It's fine for Bischoff to be involved with Jarrett and Foley. However, the two of them (especially Bischoff) feel the need to be on camera way too damn much. There are segments where Hogan or Bischoff will talk to someone for a few minutes and then....nothing comes from it. It would be like if the Mr. McMahon character was getting involved with the HHH/Sheamus feud on Raw. It just isn't necessary. Beyond all this, I think some people are over looking of my main concerns. Look at the underwhelming number that Pope, Anderson, Angle, and Wolfe drew. These are four of your best skilled guys and they got out drawn my the BP? Don't get me wrong, I love the BP (especially Velvet) but that just should not be happening to guys of their caliber. |
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Post by Dub H on Mar 16, 2010 19:46:18 GMT -5
I cant even call Pope/Wolfe an angle at the moment. They have matches every week. Okay...and? Shannon Moore is getting an X division title shot already, while there are about 10 guys in that division sitting in the back who have been with the company for how long? Beer Money is finally back, yes, with Eric Bischoff. Morgan/Hernandez do have an anlge. Heres the thing: The angles I listed above take up more TV time than the angles you listed. The biggest storyline of the company is Sting/Hogan. The main storyline Sting vs Hulk Hogan. Would I be surprised if it leads to a Sting/Hogan match? Absolutely not. My point is, why should the young guys even need to battle for tv time? They should be getting all of it. That's one show. Hell, there as an episode where the Machine Guns got more time than anyone else on the roster.Guess the X-Division was taking too much of the show. The Knockouts had all all-Knockout show on New Years. They must be the biggest angle of the company. The Band, Nash, and Young got a lot of time during one show. It must be all about them, then. Just cause there's a show with a specific build doesn't mean it's all about them. And the whole "They should be getting all of it" sounds ignorant. You don't build a show around just new guys, and you don't build a show around just old guys. You have that mix to getting everythign working.  I kid the point its: Useles old guys that are adding nothing to the shows,are taking the time of what could be future stars and add something new and relevant that people actually want see at TNA |
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Post by Greer on Mar 16, 2010 19:49:54 GMT -5
I cant even call Pope/Wolfe an angle at the moment. They have matches every week. Okay...and? Shannon Moore is getting an X division title shot already, while there are about 10 guys in that division sitting in the back who have been with the company for how long? Beer Money is finally back, yes, with Eric Bischoff. Morgan/Hernandez do have an anlge. Heres the thing: The angles I listed above take up more TV time than the angles you listed. The biggest storyline of the company is Sting/Hogan. The main storyline Sting vs Hulk Hogan. Would I be surprised if it leads to a Sting/Hogan match? Absolutely not. My point is, why should the young guys even need to battle for tv time? They should be getting all of it. That's one show. Hell, there as an episode where the Machine Guns got more time than anyone else on the roster.Guess the X-Division was taking too much of the show. The Knockouts had all all-Knockout show on New Years. They must be the biggest angle of the company. The Band, Nash, and Young got a lot of time during one show. It must be all about them, then. Just cause there's a show with a specific build doesn't mean it's all about them. And the whole "They should be getting all of it" sounds ignorant. You don't build a show around just new guys, and you don't build a show around just old guys. You have that mix to getting everythign working. Just one show? You havent been watching have you? The angles I listed have been hogging tv time for weeks. This isn't a one time thing. When I say the young guys should be getting all of it, I am referring to the non-geriatrics on the show. You can easily build a show on Angle, Anderson, Pope, RVD, Hardy, Wolfe, MCMG, Hernandez and Beer Money without Hogan popping in every 10 minutes to remind you he is there. |
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Post by Greer on Mar 16, 2010 19:51:22 GMT -5
That's one show. Hell, there as an episode where the Machine Guns got more time than anyone else on the roster.Guess the X-Division was taking too much of the show. The Knockouts had all all-Knockout show on New Years. They must be the biggest angle of the company. The Band, Nash, and Young got a lot of time during one show. It must be all about them, then. Just cause there's a show with a specific build doesn't mean it's all about them. And the whole "They should be getting all of it" sounds ignorant. You don't build a show around just new guys, and you don't build a show around just old guys. You have that mix to getting everythign working. I kid the point its: Useles old guys that are adding nothing to the shows,are taking the time of what could be future stars and add something new and relevant that people actually want see at TNA And thank you for that. NXT is practically built on the young formula and it is extraordinary. |
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Post by Dub H on Mar 16, 2010 19:53:21 GMT -5
I kid the point its: Useles old guys that are adding nothing to the shows,are taking the time of what could be future stars and add something new and relevant that people actually want see at TNA And thank you for that. NXT is practically built on the young formula and it is extraordinary. Sure it has some pros,but the main focus is the young and new talent |
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Post by thatguybayne on Mar 16, 2010 19:53:50 GMT -5
Who cares!? Who Cares!? I'll have you know Jimmy Hart is Wrestlicious baby! ;D The rating is about as good as to be expected under the circumstances. TNA should think about doing each show live to avoid this in future. |
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