Krimzon
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Post by Krimzon on Apr 19, 2010 23:11:24 GMT -5
Pope is over enough to Main Event TNA. It doesn't take much to be able to carry TNA. If TNA wanted to have AJ drop the title, then maybe have him drop it to the man he was actually feuding with. A man the fans wanted to see as World Champion. If the WWE can give the belts to Sheamus & Jack Swagger, TNA can sure as hell give the belt to Pope. Yeah, and the WWE has a midget for a main event so...you know. Pope is over. But if you watched the PPV last night AJ was getting practically as many face cheers as Pope. The guy is over. He's going to get his shot. But when you compare the pop for RVD tonight just interacting with AJ to what Pope is getting it's just a no-brainer. I like Pope, he definitely deserves to hold that belt sooner rather than later but let's be serious here. This is TNA. Heels get cheered all the time, especially outside of the iMPACT Zone, which was the case with Lockdown. |
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Post by AriadosMan on Apr 19, 2010 23:13:08 GMT -5
Was AJ lapsing into his "face" style again? (remembers the heel Beer Money trying to get the face BEER MONEY cheer)
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Post by josh on Apr 19, 2010 23:58:17 GMT -5
Yeah, and the WWE has a midget for a main event so...you know. Pope is over. But if you watched the PPV last night AJ was getting practically as many face cheers as Pope. The guy is over. He's going to get his shot. But when you compare the pop for RVD tonight just interacting with AJ to what Pope is getting it's just a no-brainer. I like Pope, he definitely deserves to hold that belt sooner rather than later but let's be serious here. This is TNA. Heels get cheered all the time, especially outside of the iMPACT Zone, which was the case with Lockdown. Quit whining just because something didn't go your way. Pope has a future but the future isn't now. While I don't think Pope and Austin are that comparable, but imagine had they pulled the Austin trigger in 1997 instead of 1998. Would it have been big? Sure, but would the timing have been as perfect? Most likely not. Let Pope wait, keep building steam, and later on when TNA isn't as stacked and in as much of a "transitional" hectic period have him win so he can be the focal point of the show. |
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Post by nonrev on Apr 20, 2010 0:06:21 GMT -5
Yeah. Nothing says good booking like building a feud for 2 months with a red hot challenger, including a tournament victory, having the challenger lose to a pen, and hotshot the title onto somebody else, on free TV, with absolutely no prior build with absolutely no sighting of the previous challenger. Tremendous booking... I'm with you. I'm with you as well. TNA doesn't seem to give two shits about the Pay-per-view any more despite them having the best matches on a monthly basis. They just have their 2nd biggest Pay-per-view of the year and instead of giving the title to the white hot newcomer they make him lose by shady shenanigans, and then the next night have the scoundrel champion lose to someone he hasn't been feuding with for the last 2 months on free television. Why not wait 1 month to the next Pay-per-view to actually build the feud to make money off of the title change? The answer is that we may be living in a pay-per-views don't matter world. With the internet it seems they are getting increasingly irrelevant and maybe TNA thinks the only way to make money is through angles on live tv where more people can watch. TNA believes RVD will be able to draw in the fans (which suggests they don't believe either Pope or AJ could) and we'll see how long this lasts once we see the ratings for the RVD reign. But I will admit I am happy Madison is the knockouts champion so there is my complimentary booking appreciation for this thread |
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Post by comahan on Apr 20, 2010 0:06:55 GMT -5
Sheesh, even appreciation threads turn into the same ole arguments
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Post by defdave on Apr 20, 2010 0:09:32 GMT -5
I was about to say the same thing, but it's good to at least see an appreciation thread on here for once. Finally some positivity!
TNA's booking has been tremendous, I agree.
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Post by Arturo Classico on Apr 20, 2010 0:17:40 GMT -5
Eh it's okay that RVD won the belt but I would have waited to do that at the PPV, and have a match that fans would have to pay to see. But at least they seem to be going in a better direction than they have been and booking Joe the way they did tonight is good hopefully they make him an aggressive tweener and starts a feud with RVD.
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Post by MichaelMartini on Apr 20, 2010 1:28:06 GMT -5
The booking has been horrible. Unadvertised title switch on tv with no build is good booking? Joe's been kidnapped, missing for weeks and his big return is to help out a team that's already coming off a win against the same team they just beat? That's good booking?
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Post by BxB on Apr 20, 2010 2:29:12 GMT -5
I'm giving TNA a chance again. I saw Lockdown and I saw most of the Impact tonight. I hated how they booked the finish to the 10 man cage match, but tonight they brought their A game. I give TNA all the credit for trying to put on a good show. RVD was a good choice, the past two nights have shown he's willing to bust his ass and that's exactly the kinda champ you need, plus after Hardy, he's the most over guy they have.
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Post by Orange on Apr 20, 2010 2:46:25 GMT -5
Sheesh, even appreciation threads turn into the same ole arguments You're not kidding man. Title clearly says "Appreciation Thread" but whatever I guess. Anyway tonight's show impressed me, and I think TNA's booking has been tremendous as of late. Giving RVD the title was a great decision and certainly was unexpected IMO. I think TNA has really hit a stride and is picking up steam, it should all be easy going from here on out.  |
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Post by kickassJP on Apr 20, 2010 4:59:27 GMT -5
I'm giving TNA a chance again. I saw Lockdown and I saw most of the Impact tonight. I hated how they booked the finish to the 10 man cage match, but tonight they brought their A game. I give TNA all the credit for trying to put on a good show. RVD was a good choice, the past two nights have shown he's willing to bust his ass and that's exactly the kinda champ you need, plus after Hardy, he's the most over guy they have. I totally agree as RVD really does deserve it. The dude wrestled four matches in two days and he brought his A game in all four of those matches. |
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Post by A Dubya (El Hombre Muerto) on Apr 20, 2010 7:43:54 GMT -5
Thank you TNA for giving RVD the title! I agree. RVD 4:20 ftw!! I thought there were 2-3 fine wrestling matches on the show too. Although, I know every wrestling podcast or radio show will crap all over TNA, and say the entire show was garbage, because the rating is substantially lower than RAW while not even seriously watching it. Also, people will say Lockdown was horrible and made no sense: the same thing I always hear seemingly. |
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Post by Finish Uncle Muffin’s Story on Apr 20, 2010 8:09:42 GMT -5
Look - it's pretty simple:
Van Dam is more of a draw than Pope or AJ. Put the belt on Van Dam, have him lose it to a guy like Anderson.
I'm almost guaranteeing a spike in the ratings, and I wished Pope won on Sunday. If I knew that they were going to put the belt on Van Dam the next night, I would have been ok with Pope losing. He's not at the same level as RVD, yet.
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Post by Dr. Bunsen Honeydew on Apr 20, 2010 8:39:19 GMT -5
I'm with you as well. TNA doesn't seem to give two s***s about the Pay-per-view any more despite them having the best matches on a monthly basis. They just have their 2nd biggest Pay-per-view of the year and instead of giving the title to the white hot newcomer they make him lose by shady shenanigans, and then the next night have the scoundrel champion lose to someone he hasn't been feuding with for the last 2 months on free television. Why not wait 1 month to the next Pay-per-view to actually build the feud to make money off of the title change? The answer is that we may be living in a pay-per-views don't matter world. With the internet it seems they are getting increasingly irrelevant and maybe TNA thinks the only way to make money is through angles on live tv where more people can watch. TNA believes RVD will be able to draw in the fans (which suggests they don't believe either Pope or AJ could) and we'll see how long this lasts once we see the ratings for the RVD reign. I'm with you guys. |
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Post by Dr. Bunsen Honeydew on Apr 20, 2010 8:42:40 GMT -5
Let's put this another way, if thwy went with Jeff Hardy instead of RVD, would this thread exist?
My money is on "no".
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Post by jakemcclain on Apr 20, 2010 8:53:27 GMT -5
The booking has been horrible. Unadvertised title switch on tv with no build is good booking? Joe's been kidnapped, missing for weeks and his big return is to help out a team that's already coming off a win against the same team they just beat? That's good booking? The whole point was Joe destroying who was in his way, not helping Team Hogan. If it helped them, that's the breaks. We'll find out next week what happened to him. |
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Post by A Dubya (El Hombre Muerto) on Apr 20, 2010 8:56:15 GMT -5
The booking has been horrible. Unadvertised title switch on tv with no build is good booking? Joe's been kidnapped, missing for weeks and his big return is to help out a team that's already coming off a win against the same team they just beat? That's good booking? The whole point was Joe destroying who was in his way, not helping Team Hogan. If it helped them, that's the breaks. We'll find out next week what happened to him. That is how I saw it too. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 20, 2010 9:09:04 GMT -5
I will say this - they let the wrestlers wrestle, which is the best possible scenario for TNA at this point.
Four matches, three of them were like 10-13 minutes. Thats a big departure from Lockdown and the previous iMPACT.
Hopefully they keep this new style up, because this show was like the exact opposite of what they've been doing for the past few months.
What's crazy though, is that this is a smark's show. The IWC loves shows like this. I wonder if TNA has done a 180 on who they're trying to target after not being able to capture a casual audience.
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Post by jakemcclain on Apr 20, 2010 9:12:18 GMT -5
42 minutes of wrestling last night. They normally average about 33.
Getting better.
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Post by Sajoa Moe on Apr 20, 2010 9:16:21 GMT -5
42 minutes of wrestling last night. They normally average about 33. Getting better. Even the non-wrestling segments were good. You can't argue that the opening 20 minutes was red-hot. |
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