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Post by waluigi on Sept 17, 2010 10:30:23 GMT -5
And that's still not my point. The way you, Golden Spike, and Black Lantern Cookie Monster put it, you'd think that Generations X and Y are the only ones tgat ever said anything stupid about anybody else. My point is, and has always been, everybody does it, everybody's always gonna do it. So we should at least try to do it out of love and honest criticism. The most prominent people who want about these things DON'T do it out of 'love and honest criticism' and it's still stupid even if my great great great great great grandfather did it. Prominent people? , who, in high places, gives a rat's ass about Twilight? Poking fun of it on some G4 show doesn't count. And if it did, it's still satire, which is honest criticism. I've never seen anybody prominent rant about "Twilight fans are so stupid!"
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Post by Paul on Sept 17, 2010 10:56:03 GMT -5
Is this some sort of internet fad I missed?
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Post by biafra on Sept 17, 2010 11:19:02 GMT -5
To me there is a huge difference between "Fred is annoying and he sucks' and "The people who like Fred are morons and proof of the demise of modern society."
The first I have no issue with. The second makes you a prick. Especially if the movie isn't for you in the first place.
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Post by Feargus McReddit on Sept 17, 2010 11:58:45 GMT -5
The most prominent people who want about these things DON'T do it out of 'love and honest criticism' and it's still stupid even if my great great great great great grandfather did it. Prominent people? , who, in high places, gives a rat's ass about Twilight? Poking fun of it on some G4 show doesn't count. And if it did, it's still satire, which is honest criticism. I've never seen anybody prominent rant about "Twilight fans are so stupid!" Prominant as in loudest. As in 99% of the internet.
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Post by HMARK Center on Sept 17, 2010 12:29:17 GMT -5
I think a big issue is when you're complaining just because "This is stupid, I don't like it, blah blah blah", and when you critique something because you think it has a negative effect on those who watch/read/etc. it. I don't dislike or look down on people who've read Twilight (I've dated a few), but I find the overall message of the books to be destructive and a negative influence on the young women often reading it. That means I'm critiquing the work itself, not casting judgment on those who like it, or acting like it's the end of creation. That's something unique to our generation. Stopping you here because that's not the case. Surely you don't forget the era where Disco was considered to be the death of our society, and every rock station that started getting a Disco format was suddenly a disgusting sellout. Again, Chicago's Disco Demo Night? You remember. Now tell me if Twilight has ever gotten that kind of backlash, outside of a bunch of people dissing it on the net, or making parodies of it. Be realistic: that wasn't the driving force behind how badly Disco Demolition Night went. The driving force behind that catastrophe was beer in a mob situation.
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Post by waluigi on Sept 17, 2010 12:31:57 GMT -5
Stopping you here because that's not the case. Surely you don't forget the era where Disco was considered to be the death of our society, and every rock station that started getting a Disco format was suddenly a disgusting sellout. Again, Chicago's Disco Demo Night? You remember. Now tell me if Twilight has ever gotten that kind of backlash, outside of a bunch of people dissing it on the net, or making parodies of it. Be realistic: that wasn't the driving force behind how badly Disco Demolition Night went. The driving force behind that catastrophe was beer in a mob situation. The event itself was the result of backlash towards Disco. They'd never do something like that for Twilight, or Freaky Fred.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 17, 2010 12:34:15 GMT -5
Naughty?
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Post by Baixo Astral on Sept 17, 2010 12:52:04 GMT -5
Just because people do it, doesn't make it right. And that's still not my point. The way you, Golden Spike, and Black Lantern Cookie Monster put it, you'd think that Generations X and Y are the only ones tgat ever said anything stupid about anybody else. My point is, and has always been, everybody does it, everybody's always gonna do it. So we should at least try to do it out of love and honest criticism. Be realistic. There's plenty of stuff from the new generation that you have a bone to pick with, even if you don't express it. Nope, all generations have whined about the stupidity of other ones, and how the new stuff is so awful, and shows the world is disintegrating. They was rong, two.
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Post by HMARK Center on Sept 17, 2010 13:49:00 GMT -5
Be realistic: that wasn't the driving force behind how badly Disco Demolition Night went. The driving force behind that catastrophe was beer in a mob situation. The event itself was the result of backlash towards Disco. They'd never do something like that for Twilight, or Freaky Fred. If you had a "Demolition of <insert ANYTHING here>" night at a place that provided people with ample alcohol, I can almost guarantee mass destruction and mob scenes, except maybe if its the American flag or what have you. Find a few thousand people who don't like something, but aren't even passionate about it, add alcohol, give them space to destroy, and it'll get ugly. That's mob mentality, not a social movement/belief.
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Post by drjayphd (feat. Pitbull) on Sept 17, 2010 19:19:13 GMT -5
To me there is a huge difference between "Fred is annoying and he sucks' and "The people who like Fred are morons and proof of the demise of modern society." The first I have no issue with. The second makes you a prick. Especially if the movie isn't for you in the first place. So it's agreed, Fred is annoying and he sucks. (Seriously, my ex had to watch one of her videos for job-related research. She couldn't get through a minute. I was out about that far in as well. But he's not making these videos for me, so he doesn't have to care what I think. )
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Post by El Hijo De Slapnuts on Sept 17, 2010 19:55:08 GMT -5
OKAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!,I hate Fred,it seemed harmless at first but then my little siblings(ages 11,9,and 7 at the time) played it ALL DAY!
I think their cartoons arent up to snuff with the ones of my generation(I was born in 91)
I think Twilight is garbage,it fine until I have to hear about it,if you critisize it you get mobbed. I saw this happen,a friend of mine said he didn't like it and got mobbed by at LEAST 8 girls in Spanish class.
I also don't like modern pop music,most of it just isnt my thing(Lady Gaga),some of it is just mindless(Ke$ha). I'm a diehard metal fan and you can bring up some metal bands that are just as dumb as Ke$ha and I wont disagree.
I think the Jersey Shore is a sack of guano and I detest it;stupid people getting paid for being stupid just annoys me,but every generation has it!
I'm 18 and barely been out of high school,so I've had to hear about all of this stuff for years,and am kinda cynical......so sue me!
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Post by Orange on Sept 17, 2010 20:03:29 GMT -5
To me there is a huge difference between "Fred is annoying and he sucks' and "The people who like Fred are morons and proof of the demise of modern society." The first I have no issue with. The second makes you a prick. Especially if the movie isn't for you in the first place. I agree with this. There's a lot in media I don't care for now (Twilight, Scott Pilgrim, etc.) but I have never felt that the people who enjoy it are idiots. That to me is one of the worst trains of thought somebody can have, to look down on somebody because of what they enjoy.
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Post by nisidhe on Sept 17, 2010 21:04:53 GMT -5
Oh, snap! Wrong movie!
Thought this thread was about the new movie in the works about Freddie Mercury, starring Sacha Baron Cohen. _That_, I'm looking forward to.
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Post by YellowJacketY2J on Sept 18, 2010 21:41:30 GMT -5
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Post by The poster with no name on Sept 18, 2010 21:52:05 GMT -5
Nicely done, and the Cena parts were the best parts. Though I also loved the fact he had trouble keeping up the Fred voice in some parts.
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Post by Predator McBroski on Sept 18, 2010 22:03:57 GMT -5
This movie, and whole Fred idea, flat out suck. Also these long posts with the rants and whatnot hurt my brain. Its a good thing a fellow 'crapper did a review for us (for free!).
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Post by Friday Night SmackOwn on Sept 18, 2010 22:26:49 GMT -5
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