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Post by Koda, Master Crunchyroller on Jan 15, 2011 14:28:13 GMT -5
I really liked it. It perfectly played up the fact that Kato does everything, and I mean EVERYTHING, whilst the Green Hornet, well, pretty much does jack. That fact only really exists in this film. No, that fact is also in the comics and the TV show. Well, ok, in the TV once every fell in love with Bruce Lee's kung-fu, but still. |
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Post by Ian Austin on Jan 15, 2011 14:40:17 GMT -5
That fact only really exists in this film. No, that fact is also in the comics and the TV show. Well, ok, in the TV once every fell in love with Bruce Lee's kung-fu, but still. In every incarnation, he's been a capable fighter. I'm not saying Kato doesn't provide a lot, but no other version has The Green Hornet so inept. That fact was amped up for this film because it was the only way Rogen could justify starring in a blockbuster. Does that mean he's as good at fighting as Kato? No. But it means he doesn't need Kato to save his life constantly. |
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Post by Koda, Master Crunchyroller on Jan 15, 2011 14:43:12 GMT -5
No, that fact is also in the comics and the TV show. Well, ok, in the TV once every fell in love with Bruce Lee's kung-fu, but still. In every incarnation, he's been a capable fighter. I'm not saying Kato doesn't provide a lot, but no other version has The Green Hornet so inept. That fact was amped up for this film because it was the only way Rogen could justify starring in a blockbuster. Does that mean he's as good at fighting as Kato? No. But it means he doesn't need Kato to save his life constantly. Ok, you are right in that regard. Hornet in previous incarnations was a decent fighter. |
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Post by ThereIsNoAbsurdistOnlyZuul on Jan 15, 2011 14:56:30 GMT -5
Green Hornet was a radio serial first and foremost.
He was adapted numerous times to comics, with mixed success. In fact I'd say that the television show was better at popularizing the characters than the comics.
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Post by hypnoticgenes on Jan 15, 2011 17:41:53 GMT -5
I just got back from seeing it. I agree that they shouldn't have made the GH as inept as he was. And they did gloss over a LOT of backstory. That was kind of a turn off for me. But it was alright, and It got a few chuckles out of me. And the action was alright.
And since it is out I get to say, I actually worked on some of the 3D in this movie.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 15, 2011 18:24:04 GMT -5
Geoff Johns approves it. That's good enough for me. I'm interested in the movie, but I guarantee any other Lantern besides Hal "Personality-Free" Jordan and Johns would be against it. |
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Post by Ian Austin on Jan 15, 2011 18:55:13 GMT -5
Geoff Johns approves it. That's good enough for me. I'm interested in the movie, but I guarantee any other Lantern besides Hal "Personality-Free" Jordan and Johns would be against it. Eh, you kinda have to go with him for the first one. Stewart and Rayner could handle their own films, but both make sense after you establish the GL mythology. Once you set up Hal as the guy who overcomes fear, you can throw in Stewart and Rayner as the one's whose entire existence isn't dictated by the concept of fear. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 15, 2011 20:17:14 GMT -5
Geoff Johns approves it. That's good enough for me. I'm interested in the movie, but I guarantee any other Lantern besides Hal "Personality-Free" Jordan and Johns would be against it. Not to mention Van Wilder'd out Ryan Reyonlds. That guy will kill the franchise before it gets off the ground. He can do good stuff, but based on the previews, this isn't it. |
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Post by Rhody Codes on Jan 15, 2011 20:19:10 GMT -5
What was the decision on making the GH so incompetent, that MacGruber would look like a pro next to the movie GH?
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Post by hypnoticgenes on Jan 15, 2011 20:46:16 GMT -5
What was the decision on making the GH so incompetent, that MacGruber would look like a pro next to the movie GH? I think the idea was to make him incompetent in the begining but have him redeem himself in the big climax. |
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Post by Rolent Tex on Feb 9, 2011 1:03:00 GMT -5
I finally got to see "The Green Hornet" today and had to think a while before I could finally come up with what I really thought of the movie. I don't like how they made Britt Reid a complete and total boob the entire movie. He may have gotten to redeem himself in the end for by kicking ass and saving Kato's life, but then he fell on his face. I was a big fan of the show when I was little and both the Hornet and Kato were equals and both kicked ass. Kato may have gotten more top billing later as Bruce Lee starting to shine, but both characters fought well. I could have forgiven the movie if say...Reid was a childish tool for half the movie and turned into the badass Hornet for the second half...but no...we get Rogen in a mask and five seconds of the Hornet kicking ass...then back to Rogen in a mask. I mean, c'mon...it may have been retconned in later versions due to them being separate properties by the same creators...but the Hornet is a descendent of the Lone Ranger. Could you imagine Seth Rogen being the descendent of the Lone f'n Ranger? The Green Hornet may have been programmed next to and had a crossover with Batman, but he was always played straight, not campy. I was so-so on Kato. He did kick a lot of ass, but he got dragged into a lot of Rogen's hijinks. Cameron Diaz did a decent job as Lenore Case. At least she got to play an intelligent woman that didn't put up with Rogen's hijinks. Too bad that, you know, she never had to threaten to sue Britt Reid over sexual harassment if he ever started at her ass again like this movie. Then look what they did to the character of District Attorney Frank P. Scanlon. Scanlon, along with Case were the only two characters that Reid trusted with his secret identity. In this version they... {Spoiler}...turn him into a sleazeball that murdered Reid's father after he refused to play ball and started reporting on the crime in the city again. Scanlon had a deal with Chudnofsky/Bloodnofsky that kept Scanlon in power and he used that to force James Reid to keep stories about crime out of the papers to look like he was doing a great job. Scanlon then tried to force Britt to do the same and when he refused, he and Bloodnofsky tried to have him murdered by the Green Hornet. He gets his sendoff with Kato driving half of the Black Beauty into him and sending him falling to his death. Way to trash one of the good guys folks. Screw you Seth Rogen. (And for those of you who must think I'm ancient for being a fan of the Green Hornet when I was a kid...when FX first came on the air, they eventually started playing Batman and Green Hornet back to back in the evenings. So yeah...geezer my ass.  ) |
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Post by mattperiolat on Feb 9, 2011 1:19:01 GMT -5
Didn't the radio show come before the comic book? For that matter,the tv show may have come before the comic book. Not that any of this would change your opinion of the movie. I was just curious about that. Edit: Just checked for myself. The radio show and the tv show were both around before the comics. Again,I was just wondering about that since I saw the commercials and never bothered to look. Carry on with your discussion. Yep, radio show came first in the mid-30s (Reference book is stashed away so I'm thinking so). TV show was in the 60s, not sure when comics started coming out for the Hornet, but I imagine pulp magazines like with The Shadow were out in the 30s too. |
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Post by Big DSR Energy on Feb 9, 2011 1:24:34 GMT -5
Didn't the radio show come before the comic book? For that matter,the tv show may have come before the comic book. Not that any of this would change your opinion of the movie. I was just curious about that. Edit: Just checked for myself. The radio show and the tv show were both around before the comics. Again,I was just wondering about that since I saw the commercials and never bothered to look. Carry on with your discussion. Yep, radio show came first in the mid-30s (Reference book is stashed away so I'm thinking so). TV show was in the 60s, not sure when comics started coming out for the Hornet, but I imagine pulp magazines like with The Shadow were out in the 30s too. I was rather fond of the 40s serial, though its been awhile since I seen it (bought it on VHS at a flea market about 10 years ago...still have the tape somewhere). |
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