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Post by Orange on Dec 17, 2010 16:01:44 GMT -5
Last night I watched TNA for the first time in years, and what exactly are these pointless backstage segments supposed to prove? Why should I care that a wrestler blows all his money a strip club? I'm sure it goes with his gimmick, but at the end of the day, it's just a waste of time. And whats with the camera on 10x zoom? those directors need to ease up on those zoom buttons, those segments look like something from a spy cam, it's very annoying to watch. It's called developing a character's gimmick. As you said it goes with the gimmick, it's a way to further that, happens in wrestling all the time...
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Post by jimfear on Dec 17, 2010 16:29:11 GMT -5
I don't really think TNA (cough RUSSO cough) thinks of anything as a full blown turn anymore. Seems like they are still sticking to Vinny Ru's plan of everyone being a "shade of gray" instead of just black and white, good vs. evil.
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Post by lildude8218 on Dec 17, 2010 16:39:45 GMT -5
I really hope that wasn't a turn, he's too good of a face. Plus there are way too many heels right now so I am afraid he'll just get lost in the shuffle. The Harlem Shuffle?
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Post by Hawk Hart on Dec 17, 2010 16:43:00 GMT -5
I really hope that wasn't a turn, he's too good of a face. Plus there are way too many heels right now so I am afraid he'll just get lost in the shuffle. The Harlem Shuffle? The Hollywood Shuffle. Brother.
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Post by Krimzon on Dec 17, 2010 17:15:59 GMT -5
Turning Pope heel is an extremely bad idea. It's moves like this that leave me having NO faith in TNA. How are we supposed to get behind guys that constantly turn?
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Post by casualobserver on Dec 17, 2010 17:58:21 GMT -5
I'd mark if instead of turning heel, Pope began sticking his hand down the front of his trunks and coming out to a song praising the art of the nudie bar. Where a buck's enough to see their stuff, at the nudie bar. Where the breasts may be fake but man do they shake, at the nudie bar. Where you swear like a sailor, and wish you could nail her, at the nudie bar. Where the cops are at the door, and there's a Kennedy on the floor, at the nudie bar.
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Post by dav on Dec 17, 2010 18:13:31 GMT -5
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Why? Just why? Pope has the potential to be one of the leading faces for the company and instead turn him heel in a company with an overabundance of heels because...? Seriously, this makes no sense whatsoever.
Oh wait sorry, this is the company that puts WWE's main event over their own. If Pope had won the ECW title, he'd have had three reigns and an unbeaten streak by now. But because he was in the mid-card, they're happy to jerk around with him.
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Post by Big L on Dec 17, 2010 18:17:52 GMT -5
I really hope that wasn't a turn, he's too good of a face. Plus there are way too many heels right now so I am afraid he'll just get lost in the shuffle. Agreed
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Post by Orange on Dec 17, 2010 18:22:05 GMT -5
... Why? Just why? Pope has the potential to be one of the leading faces for the company and instead turn him heel in a company with an overabundance of heels because...? Seriously, this makes no sense whatsoever. Oh wait sorry, this is the company that puts WWE's main event over their own. If Pope had won the ECW title, he'd have had three reigns and an unbeaten streak by now. But because he was in the mid-card, they're happy to jerk around with him. .....Well that's just got to be the reason right? Not that maybe they thought a heel turn was a good idea for him and would benefit him, but because he was mid-card in WWE.
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Post by dav on Dec 17, 2010 18:36:01 GMT -5
... Why? Just why? Pope has the potential to be one of the leading faces for the company and instead turn him heel in a company with an overabundance of heels because...? Seriously, this makes no sense whatsoever. Oh wait sorry, this is the company that puts WWE's main event over their own. If Pope had won the ECW title, he'd have had three reigns and an unbeaten streak by now. But because he was in the mid-card, they're happy to jerk around with him. .....Well that's just got to be the reason right? Not that maybe they thought a heel turn was a good idea for him and would benefit him, but because he was mid-card in WWE. How does this heel turn benefit him? TNA already has heels up the ying yang with Immortal and the only four now really opposing them are Angle (Ex-WWE and with major health issues), RVD (Reaching the end of his career), Morgan (Yo-yo booking like few others) and Anderson (Ex-WWE and injury prone). Pope has the charisma and in ring talent to be one of the faces of TNA and instead the company just shunts himself off to the side on a constant basis for reasons I really can't fathom aside from incompetence. And let's be honest here, being main event in the WWE has always pretty much guaranteed main event in TNA instead of cultivating their own.
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Post by Michael Coello on Dec 17, 2010 18:36:41 GMT -5
well, it does fit into Pope's recent actions. He was going on about rebirth and how he's seen something you would never want to know what. It could be a loss of faith, where he not only lost his allies after the THEY reveal, has his brother and his own congregation turn on him for Bischoff, and after losing to Abyss the last PPV, he's probably not in the right state of mind. This is a guy who's been sent to hell and back in his struggle.
Then again, this wasn't the only time he was at the club. He had a promo or two there. I'd wait for something to actually occur first.
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Post by ________ has left the building on Dec 17, 2010 20:41:34 GMT -5
It was a social commentary on the deceit that goes on behind the scenes at churches in the black community. If he get caught having sex with young males members of his congregation, then it is.
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Post by Celgress on Dec 17, 2010 21:13:58 GMT -5
He took money that he asked the fans to give for needy children at the holidays, and hes using it to go to strip clubs. Hey strippers need money to you know.
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Post by lildude8218 on Dec 17, 2010 21:35:07 GMT -5
for the record, it's also a steakhouse
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Post by ________ has left the building on Dec 17, 2010 21:43:23 GMT -5
for the record, it's also a steakhouse So you can eat steak and stare at beef curtains? Nice.
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Post by JoDaNa1281 on Dec 17, 2010 21:44:10 GMT -5
Yes it was. The audience were positioned to boo the guy. That's a heel. Whether it turns out he was in some way justified (although how I remember it, he wasn't really. He originally turned because he was pissed at how losing clean to Mr Anderson didn't put him through to the World Championship finals) doesn't matter. The writers wanted the audience to boo him, he was a heel. So this is two turns in two months. And there was the heel turn just before that, so three in what? Four or five months? What was the heel turn just before that? He debuted as a heel, was turned face, kinda turned heel(more tweenerish) to join Sting/Nash & I guess turned face(though I don't think he ever really turned).
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Post by lildude8218 on Dec 17, 2010 21:49:44 GMT -5
for the record, it's also a steakhouse So you can eat steak and stare at beef curtains? Nice. topless only. and actually depending on which Rachel's he went to, since there's 2 in the area of Orlando, it might be no nudity at all. different rules in different counties.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 17, 2010 22:10:24 GMT -5
I'd mark if instead of turning heel, Pope began sticking his hand down the front of his trunks and coming out to a song praising the art of the nudie bar. Where a buck's enough to see their stuff, at the nudie bar. Where the breasts may be fake but man do they shake, at the nudie bar. Where you swear like a sailor, and wish you could nail her, at the nudie bar. Where the cops are at the door, and there's a Kennedy on the floor, at the nudie bar. Where the beer gives you gas, but the Pope kicks ass at the nudie bar.
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Post by worldsstrongestman on Dec 17, 2010 22:14:15 GMT -5
It was a social commentary on the deceit that goes on behind the scenes at churches in the black community. If he get caught having sex with young males members of his congregation, then it is. You just gave Russo an idea. I have a feeling that he'll be teaming with GenMe and Amazing Red soon.
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Post by Celgress on Dec 17, 2010 22:39:49 GMT -5
If he get caught having sex with young males members of his congregation, then it is. You just gave Russo an idea. I have a feeling that he'll be teaming with GenMe and Amazing Red soon. Hey that is OJ's job.
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