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Post by HMARK Center on Apr 11, 2011 22:14:24 GMT -5
So not only do they not allow outside food, but they have to PAY for the only option avaliable? When did the school system obtain the regulatory rights of a nutritionist clinic? In fairness to schools (I was a teacher in an elementary school for three years), teachers and schools are basically now expected by parents to act as an educational institution, a babysitting center, a child-rearing/psychology center, a hospital, a health center, etc. Adding "nutritional center" is just another brick on the wall of unrealistic expectations that parents stack on top of already overtaxed school systems and teachers. Granted, in THIS case it's the school making the move, and I agree that it goes too far. But the expectations heaped on schools these days are beyond the realm of ridiculous.
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Post by Beets by Schrute on Apr 11, 2011 22:26:03 GMT -5
This would make sense if cafeteria food was delicious.
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Post by zeez on Apr 11, 2011 22:27:34 GMT -5
I can understand why they want to do it but this is gonna massively backfire on them.
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Post by crash1984 on Apr 11, 2011 23:04:00 GMT -5
I believe the biggest cause of childhood obesity is not what they are eating at school. I believe it is the fact that kids don't go out and play anymore. I have heard some parents not letting their kids play outside because they are afraid they will get hurt. Indeed that might will happen but if they do they are not the first kid to get hurt playing and will not be the last. When I was in school there always was someone coming in with their arm in a cast from where they broke it. Even now where I go to church there have been several kids come in with an arm in a cast. I never broke my arm but I have sprained my ankle, been stung, and been cut numerous times while playing and I am not even going to try to count the number of wipeouts I have had on a bicycle (no safety gear of course)
I know there are some sickos out there but that is why you get your rear end off the couch and go outside and watch them. My next door neighbors have a girl who looks to be maybe 3 at most. Many times I will hear her outside playing and also hear her mom or dad out there as well.
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Post by wildojinx on Apr 11, 2011 23:36:45 GMT -5
Not only that, but if they DO want to play it has to be "organized". We cant have kids playing baseball in vacant lots for fun anymore, it has to be in a legit game with scoring and an emphasis on "winning" (not attacking any little league players mind you), which turns the kids off sports.
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Post by Long A, Short A on Apr 12, 2011 2:01:54 GMT -5
I want to thanks all the posters that have mentioned the monetary aspect of this situation. Most of us know the the amount of money schools gets for certain programs is based on how many kids use that program. Money is the reason the Chicago school system banned home lunches. Money is the reason why my school system had Papa John's day every week. The Chicago school is just using a hot button issues to get sympathy from people who have been desensitized to normal school funding pleas.
I'm so grateful the lunch staff was straight with us about the in school drugstore and the KFC mobile unit.(and the fast food snitching)
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Post by Chuckie Finster on Apr 12, 2011 2:16:26 GMT -5
I want to thanks all the posters that have mentioned the monetary aspect of this situation. Most of us know the the amount of money schools gets for certain programs is based on how many kids use that program. Money is the reason the Chicago school system banned home lunches. Money is the reason why my school system had Papa John's day every week. The Chicago school is just using a hot button issues to get sympathy from people who have been desensitized to normal school funding pleas. I'm so grateful the lunch staff was straight with us about the in school drugstore and the KFC mobile unit.(and the fast food snitching) My aunt was in charge of buying the food for all the public schools in our county. I actually went with her to a food convention one time and helped picked out different meals to order in mass. Everything is pre-packaged and loaded with preservatives but of course it's all with a big sponsor and price reductions for buying in bulk. She would have to go out of her way and budget to buy fresh products and if she did, she'd be fired for costing the system so much money. Recently all soda machines were taken out of the schools and replaced with "healthy alternatives" which in some cases aren't any better due to the preservatives (but look great on a press release). But that's how they save money and get sponsorships. And if we're so concerned about the kids being overweight, stop taking away their recess time. In fact, having kids run around gets all the excess sugar, piss and vinegar out of their system and makes them better students.
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Post by Alex Shelley on Apr 12, 2011 2:49:19 GMT -5
School food is not healthy for you (no matter what they try to say), and kids hate it. The article I read about it said that a lot of the kids just aren't eating. Certainly it's better to eat crap than to starve.
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Post by 'Foretold' Joker on Apr 12, 2011 4:58:27 GMT -5
If school food is so bad, why when I was at school do I remember all the teachers happily eating it?
If kids get the choice or can influence the choice (parents) then they won't eat healthy. When I was at school if you didn't like the food at lunch then you either went hungry or if some teachers were on lunch duty you were forced to eat it.
It's interesting because if you take a food you dislike like say olives, then eat one a day after about a month has passed you will either like them or tolerate them enough so you won't mind eating them.
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Post by Ultimo Gallos on Apr 12, 2011 5:49:58 GMT -5
The school food once I hit high school was so bad that everyday I would sneak off campus and go eat at one of the various restaurants that was near the school.
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Post by eJm on Apr 12, 2011 5:55:21 GMT -5
If school food is so bad, why when I was at school do I remember all the teachers happily eating it? Surely that'd be kind of like asking 'If the film was so bad, why does everyone involved in it praise it so much?' ? And the answer is '$$$$$$'!
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Post by G✇JI☈A on Apr 12, 2011 6:29:23 GMT -5
This would make sense if cafeteria food was delicious. Come now, old newspapers and gym mats are very good for you.
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Post by willywonka666 on Apr 12, 2011 6:35:07 GMT -5
Recently all soda machines were taken out of the schools and replaced with "healthy alternatives" which in some cases aren't any better due to the preservatives (but look great on a press release). But that's how they save money and get sponsorships. How's it a healthy alternative if there's nothing else there? It's the only thing then. I know what you're saying, but if they eliminate the stuff that isn't so healthy and replace it with only healthy stuff, then there is no alternative.
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Post by wrasslinmachine on Apr 12, 2011 7:20:11 GMT -5
How about the schools mind their own freakin business! How about they worry about educating and not what the kids eat.
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Post by Allie Kitsune on Apr 12, 2011 8:31:12 GMT -5
How about the schools mind their own freakin business! How about they worry about educating and not what the kids eat. Because at least half of the people have had it drilled into their heads that it's not their responsibility to take care of their kids, and to let the schools do it. It would be nice if parents wanted to take the control back, but I don't think they want to. They'd rather let someone else make all the choices for them. And that's unfortunate. People now more than ever are willing to let bureaucrats, whether it be a school board, or something else, make all their decisions for them so that they don't have to think about it or do it themselves.
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Post by crash1984 on Apr 12, 2011 8:37:19 GMT -5
My aunt was in charge of buying the food for all the public schools in our county. I actually went with her to a food convention one time and helped picked out different meals to order in mass. Everything is pre-packaged and loaded with preservatives but of course it's all with a big sponsor and price reductions for buying in bulk. She would have to go out of her way and budget to buy fresh products and if she did, she'd be fired for costing the system so much money. When I was in middle school they would offer a full salad bar for lunch every Tuesday and Thursday. When I say salad bar I mean an actual salad bar. You would still have to pay as if you bought a regular lunch. Not only was it offered a lot of students would choose that for lunch. The reason they had the money to do that was because a local Ford Dealer sponsored it. I would be willing to bet that if school systems tried hard enough they could get enough sponsorship to do something like that at least every week in every school. Maybe have a company sponsor one schools salad bar and that company gets a sign in the gym or on the baseball or football field. The fall after I got out of school the state of Tennessee passed a law that required elementary and middle school caferterias to replace all coke machines in cafeterias with "healthier alternatives" and high schools also had to offer these alternatives. That sounds good if the machines offered things like fruit juice, tea, milk, carbonated waters, etc. However I would be willing to bet it was mostly stuff like orange drink, fruit punch, pink lemonade, etc. The only difference between coke and the stuff i just mentioned is cokes have a lot more acid and also they are carbonated. In my first post I made I was going to go into that but never did. As I said earlier kids not playing is the big problem. In fact I think that they should require more PE for middle and high school students as well and have other things besides traditional gym classes. In middle school each year you either had to be in band or take at least 9 weeks of gym. In high school you had to take a semester of Wellness which was basically gym. Sometimes you would have to "exercise" first but it was usually ten minutes at most usually though the teachers would just say shoot ball which basically meant goof off. They did say that they were going to start doing tae-bo if you wanted to do it but never did.
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Post by HMARK Center on Apr 12, 2011 10:10:37 GMT -5
How about the schools mind their own freakin business! How about they worry about educating and not what the kids eat. Because at least half of the people have had it drilled into their heads that it's not their responsibility to take care of their kids, and to let the schools do it. It would be nice if parents wanted to take the control back, but I don't think they want to. They'd rather let someone else make all the choices for them. And that's unfortunate. People now more than ever are willing to let bureaucrats, whether it be a school board, or something else, make all their decisions for them so that they don't have to think about it or do it themselves. Oh, believe me, they don't just expect the schools and school board to raise their children for them: they DEMAND it. And if the school doesn't come through, then the parents vote to cut funding, they go and complain to higher up's, or, worst case scenario, they sue like crazy. Believe me, it happens, and it happens a lot.
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Post by elektro on Apr 12, 2011 10:15:08 GMT -5
I've had cafeteria food before, and even up to college, that stuff's probably LESS nutritious than anything one could bring from home.
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Post by Allie Kitsune on Apr 12, 2011 10:38:57 GMT -5
Because at least half of the people have had it drilled into their heads that it's not their responsibility to take care of their kids, and to let the schools do it. It would be nice if parents wanted to take the control back, but I don't think they want to. They'd rather let someone else make all the choices for them. And that's unfortunate. People now more than ever are willing to let bureaucrats, whether it be a school board, or something else, make all their decisions for them so that they don't have to think about it or do it themselves. Oh, believe me, they don't just expect the schools and school board to raise their children for them: they DEMAND it. And if the school doesn't come through, then the parents vote to cut funding, they go and complain to higher up's, or, worst case scenario, they sue like crazy. Believe me, it happens, and it happens a lot.Once again, lawyers (possibly the entire legal structure) ruin everything.
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Post by pink on Apr 12, 2011 11:56:27 GMT -5
Coming from a "Brought my own luch since 1st Grade" kid, this is a terrible idea. What if a kid is Vegetarian or Vegan? Or their religion prohibits them from eating a ceratin food? This is a stupid idea and I'm gald that I don't live in Chicago.
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