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Post by lemonyellowson on Jan 16, 2011 1:37:14 GMT -5
i like that match, the crowd are awesome.
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Post by The Ichi on Jan 16, 2011 5:35:42 GMT -5
I don't get the "they were right to ham it up" responses. If I was having my last match I'd want to go out with a bang, even if the crowd had turned on me.
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Post by Bub (BLM) on Jan 16, 2011 6:12:23 GMT -5
I don't get the "they were right to ham it up" responses. If I was having my last match I'd want to go out with a bang, even if the crowd had turned on me. Exactly. Someone like John Cena would have used the booing to fuel him to put on a better match to shove it right back in their faces. Goldberg and Lesnar were crybabies, plain and simple. |
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Post by Dr. Bunsen Honeydew on Jan 16, 2011 6:19:18 GMT -5
Also, Jeff Jarrett. For as much flack as the guy takes, he worked his last WWF appearance on the last day of his contract by busting his ass to put Chyna over. ACtually, it wasn't the last day of his contract, it had already expired. ANd you forget the fact that Jarrett threatened to not show up and it took a 6 figure check to get him to show. I don't give Jarrett any credit after the stunts he pulled. |
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Post by HRH The KING on Jan 16, 2011 6:38:53 GMT -5
It was so bad, it could only have been on purpose.
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Post by i.Sarita.com on Jan 16, 2011 6:44:29 GMT -5
Also, Jeff Jarrett. For as much flack as the guy takes, he worked his last WWF appearance on the last day of his contract by busting his ass to put Chyna over. ACtually, it wasn't the last day of his contract, it had already expired. ANd you forget the fact that Jarrett threatened to not show up and it took a 6 figure check to get him to show. I don't give Jarrett any credit after the stunts he pulled. McMahon has been all about screwing people over. Jarrett was just being a good business man and covering his own ass. He could have just not worked the match at all and Madusa'd the IC title on Nitro. |
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Post by mrjl on Jan 16, 2011 7:43:46 GMT -5
I don't get the "they were right to ham it up" responses. If I was having my last match I'd want to go out with a bang, even if the crowd had turned on me. that's the attitude of someone who loves wrestling. These guys obviously just considered wrestling a job. |
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Post by The Ichi on Jan 16, 2011 7:56:11 GMT -5
I don't get the "they were right to ham it up" responses. If I was having my last match I'd want to go out with a bang, even if the crowd had turned on me. that's the attitude of someone who loves wrestling. These guys obviously just considered wrestling a job. And with jobs you're expected to work to the best of your ability even on your last day, no? |
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Post by Metalheadbanger Man on Jan 16, 2011 8:10:54 GMT -5
The crowd was paying more attention to Austin and wacky guys in the audience, so I can't really blame them for not giving it 100%.
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Post by dirtyoldman on Jan 16, 2011 9:18:19 GMT -5
Also, Jeff Jarrett. For as much flack as the guy takes, he worked his last WWF appearance on the last day of his contract by busting his ass to put Chyna over. ACtually, it wasn't the last day of his contract, it had already expired. ANd you forget the fact that Jarrett threatened to not show up and it took a 6 figure check to get him to show. I don't give Jarrett any credit after the stunts he pulled. Wasnt the money that jarret was asking for, was money that vince actualy owed him and hadnt paid up? Kinda like when warrior threatened to no show a summerslam main event unless he was paid money vince owed him? Could be wrong though. |
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Post by Enrico Palazzo on Jan 16, 2011 9:39:48 GMT -5
ACtually, it wasn't the last day of his contract, it had already expired. ANd you forget the fact that Jarrett threatened to not show up and it took a 6 figure check to get him to show. I don't give Jarrett any credit after the stunts he pulled. Wasnt the money that jarret was asking for, was money that vince actualy owed him and hadnt paid up? Kinda like when warrior threatened to no show a summerslam main event unless he was paid money vince owed him? Could be wrong though. No, you're right. According to Jarrett the talks were amicable, and it was purely business (if anyone should know this, it's Vince), so I don't think Jarrett is public enemy number one for Vince. |
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Post by mrjl on Jan 16, 2011 10:49:48 GMT -5
ACtually, it wasn't the last day of his contract, it had already expired. ANd you forget the fact that Jarrett threatened to not show up and it took a 6 figure check to get him to show. I don't give Jarrett any credit after the stunts he pulled. Wasnt the money that jarret was asking for, was money that vince actualy owed him and hadnt paid up? Kinda like when warrior threatened to no show a summerslam main event unless he was paid money vince owed him? Could be wrong though. it wasn't owed, so much as they insisted he take a pay cut earlier in the year, despite their compnay being big time at the time. So he recovered his paycut plus some extra for his trouble. |
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Post by Kevin Hamilton on Jan 16, 2011 12:36:59 GMT -5
If it was my last day. I would put on a good show. On my last day of work I still put in as much effort as I did on my first few days there. Why? Because if I am doing it for me. I don't care if they were 'mean' to me or whatever. I know I can leave the company with my head up high. I know if I was Lesnar or Goldberg, I would of put in a better effort and just have them remember my last match as a good match. I would do it for me. But then again they probably had too big of an ego to do something like that. I don't think there's much they coulda done to please the crowd. From the opening the fans there WANTED to boo the hell outta of 'em and chant and whatnot. No matter what they woulda done I think they woulda got the same reaction. I get what you're saying, but even to have a good match 'for you' would likely be difficult if you're gonna get heckled and crapped on throughout. |
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Post by molson5 on Jan 16, 2011 12:50:46 GMT -5
I don't get the "they were right to ham it up" responses. If I was having my last match I'd want to go out with a bang, even if the crowd had turned on me. that's the attitude of someone who loves wrestling. These guys obviously just considered wrestling a job. That's probably true, but not loving wrestling is certainly no sin, the WWE knew that about both of them, and the mutual "lack of love for wrestling" of Goldberg and Lesnar has kept both very healthy. There's definitely a place in wrestling for guys like this (not everyone has to be willing to leave a corpse in the ring for the "love of wrestling") but that place is probably not against each other, in their last matches, on the biggest show of the year. |
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Post by Vice honcho room temperature on Jan 16, 2011 12:51:28 GMT -5
I don't know if the WWE knew that they were going to get crapped out of the building but they did them no favors booking the match like they did. Like that infamous Batista vs Big Show on ECW (but anyone with half a brain knew that was a bad idea the second they thought of it)
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Post by Citizen Zero on Jan 16, 2011 12:54:21 GMT -5
Also, Jeff Jarrett. For as much flack as the guy takes, he worked his last WWF appearance on the last day of his contract by busting his ass to put Chyna over. ACtually, it wasn't the last day of his contract, it had already expired. ANd you forget the fact that Jarrett threatened to not show up and it took a 6 figure check to get him to show. I don't give Jarrett any credit after the stunts he pulled. ...Said six-figure check was money he was rightfully owed by McMahon. |
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Post by Ian Austin on Jan 16, 2011 12:57:07 GMT -5
Wrestling is a job.
And let's not forget two things.
1) Goldberg wanted to leave because of the awful booking he was privy to. If they'd booked him properly, he probably would have stuck around.
2) Lesnar, a month earlier, put over Eddie Guerrero the right way in an absolute classic. He didn't have to, but he did.
So I'd go with the booking being the issue. If the match was booked properly, they would have got the crowd into it. There were times during the match as it stands that the crowd got pumped (the Spear spot), so it was never a losing battle from the start.
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Post by mrjl on Jan 16, 2011 13:17:52 GMT -5
that's the attitude of someone who loves wrestling. These guys obviously just considered wrestling a job. That's probably true, but not loving wrestling is certainly no sin, the WWE knew that about both of them, and the mutual "lack of love for wrestling" of Goldberg and Lesnar has kept both very healthy. There's definitely a place in wrestling for guys like this (not everyone has to be willing to leave a corpse in the ring for the "love of wrestling") but that place is probably not against each other, in their last matches, on the biggest show of the year. when it was booked it was only Goldberg's last match. Brock was originally supposed to go over to help re-establish what a monster he was. But since Brock was breaking his contract and Goldberg's had just run out they chose to give the face the win. |
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Post by FUNK_US/BRODUS on Jan 16, 2011 14:24:04 GMT -5
Dont blame them. No incentive to, and the crowd just crapped over it from the get go.
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Post by FUNK_US/BRODUS on Jan 16, 2011 14:25:33 GMT -5
I don't get the "they were right to ham it up" responses. If I was having my last match I'd want to go out with a bang, even if the crowd had turned on me. Exactly. Someone like John Cena would have used the booing to fuel him to put on a better match to shove it right back in their faces. Goldberg and Lesnar were crybabies, plain and simple. But then, John Cena wouldve shown up for the next 4 weeks after quitting for the NFL to constantly harass Stone Cold at every given opportunity. While in wrestling gear. |
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