Celgress
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Post by Celgress on Jan 17, 2011 16:20:52 GMT -5
Meh, I dont hate it but I dont care much for it, I was likening the feud but im not sure if this will derail it or simply advance it for me... Agreed you have Fatt Matt Hardy now, you have a new Champ in Anderson, you still have RVD chasing Jeff Hardy & the whole new "They" storyline. With such, why in the blue hell is this feud positioned as high on the card as it is? And why, even worse imo, is the trailer for this Thursday Impact! devoted exclusively to this (now terrible) soap opera shooty feud!? Why isn't TNA instead marketing the other four, much more important, things currently going on that I just ran down!? |
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Post by Jacob Lee on Jan 17, 2011 16:29:10 GMT -5
It's not really just a matter of it being a bad feud. I've never understood why Jarrett ever is in a feud at the top of the card. The guy has never had a match where he carried it yet I have to watch the guy steamroll all these great people to get himself over. The angle would be okay if Jarrett was a funny guy, but he lacks charisma and they're trying to draw me in due to this pathetic love triangle story.
So now Angle has to come back and squeeze a good match out of Jarrett and nothing changes. Nobody is more over than before and no money is made. It's dumb.
Now if somebody like the Pope or AJ was claiming to be an MMA expert that would be somewhat funny.
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Post by N E O G E O B O Y S on Jan 17, 2011 17:13:18 GMT -5
If we base this feud on real life, shouldn't kurt be the heel and jarrett the face?
I'm asking, I don't remember how the divorce went
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Post by cabbageboy on Jan 17, 2011 18:18:42 GMT -5
See, that's the part I don't get. How is the crowd supposed to react to Jarrett with Karen on TV? They are presuming the viewers all know the back story here without ever spelling it out clearly on TV. Further, once Karen gets on TV and shoots all over Kurt for being a total dick and a lousy husband, don't we have to take her word for it?
This angle needs to be an angle like the whole Austin/Chris Adams storyline from the Texas era USWA, where Austin was now married to Adams' ex wife and now Adams' new wife got in the mix and they did some fun mixed tags. I think Angle has a new fiancee, right? She'll almost have to get involved.
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Post by Michael Coello on Jan 17, 2011 18:26:02 GMT -5
Except that Jarrett has, in no way, been portrayed as doing anything faceish here. Hell, even when he started the angle, he kept rubbing Angle's own problems in his face and doing everything to make Angle's life hell ever since BFG. All he's done was make a mockery of Angle, cheated him out of his career, and brag about how he has his wife and kids now. This was all on TV back when Angle was on TV last in October, so it's nothing that isn't already explained.
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Post by donners on Jan 17, 2011 19:39:42 GMT -5
From Facebook:
Who on earth would actually be encouraged to watch the show through that sort of promotion?
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Post by ________ has left the building on Jan 17, 2011 20:02:35 GMT -5
Using real life relationships to push wrestling storylines rarely turn out good for the couple involved. Why is it so bad just to have an old fashioned wrestling feud instead of adding work/shoots into it? They need to stop booking the shows for the IWC. A majority of the fans watching probably didn't even know Karen was married to Jeff. TNA just assumed you already knew that fact.
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Post by Celgress on Jan 17, 2011 20:36:12 GMT -5
From Facebook: Who on earth would actually be encouraged to watch the show through that sort of promotion? Exactly, which is my biggest problem with this whole mess.  |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 18, 2011 14:37:45 GMT -5
I thought they had a good thing going with the Double J Double M A challenge gimmick, something where Jarrett for the first time in a while was actually getting some old fashioned wrestling heat...the kind of heat where you wanted to see someone go out there and kick his ass.
Angle was a perfect guy to go with too. Why not just stick with what was actually working and have Angle best Jarrett in athletic competition with Jarrett doing his share of good old fashioned cheating and weaseling to make it all work? It basically wrote itself and now they're bringing in Karen Angle to ruin the whole thing.
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Post by N E O G E O B O Y S on Jan 18, 2011 16:51:36 GMT -5
and by the way kurt, this is a shoot!
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Post by Bulk Boulder24 on Jan 19, 2011 13:58:37 GMT -5
Wow not many supporters for the BEST feud in wrestling right now. The Edge Lita Hardy trio did huge ratings for the WWE, so to say nobody wants to see an angle like this is not accurate.
I certainly don't want to see Angle take on Jarrett in a straight up MMA match, like a few suggested here. It was a gimmick of Jarrett to kind of make fun of Joe and Angle on how easy it was for him to master the art of MMA in such a short amount of time. He was beating scrawny people in the stands, and cheating to beat amazing red, but where supposed to be entertained by Angle just beating Jarrett straight up? No, the whole story is about Angle having to go back on his word to take on Jarrett, because now that JJ hung up his gloves it's no longer an exhibition.
This feud should absolutely be the focal point especially when the rating took a jump in the second hour of Impact with this segment, when it routinely goes down steadily during the second hour.
Karen "JARRETT" for those who are confused was excellent in her return, and is a believable heel. Karen reminds me of Stephanie McMahon back in 2002 which is a good thing. |
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Post by Jedi-El of Tomorrow on Jan 19, 2011 14:56:32 GMT -5
This feud should absolutely be the focal point especially when the rating took a jump in the second hour of Impact with this segment, when it routinely goes down steadily during the second hour. It was put in quarter 5 which is usually a strong quarter for Impact. Remember when the Knockouts pulled the highest ratings, they were in that quarter, and a lot of times it's the highest rated quarter. This week the highest rated quarter was quarter 1 with 1.41, quarter 5 pulled in 1.29. The first hour averaged better than the 2nd hour. Through 1 week, this angle isn't looking like a draw for TNA. |
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Post by machomuta on Jan 19, 2011 16:04:14 GMT -5
Wow not many supporters for the BEST feud in wrestling right now. That is because TNA booked it. Most people on here hates TNA. People didnt have a problem when WWE booked a storyline like that. (Edge/Lita - Hardy storyline) |
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Post by Richard on Jan 19, 2011 16:52:37 GMT -5
Wow not many supporters for the BEST feud in wrestling right now. That is because TNA booked it. Most people on here hates TNA. People didnt have a problem when WWE booked a storyline like that. (Edge/Lita - Hardy storyline) I am so sick of this attitude. Maybe people don't like it because it sucks but, no, it's because people hate TNA. There is a stickied thread dealing with attitudes like this you should read. |
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Post by Bulk Boulder24 on Jan 19, 2011 16:57:37 GMT -5
This feud should absolutely be the focal point especially when the rating took a jump in the second hour of Impact with this segment, when it routinely goes down steadily during the second hour. It was put in quarter 5 which is usually a strong quarter for Impact. Remember when the Knockouts pulled the highest ratings, they were in that quarter, and a lot of times it's the highest rated quarter. This week the highest rated quarter was quarter 1 with 1.41, quarter 5 pulled in 1.29. The first hour averaged better than the 2nd hour. Through 1 week, this angle isn't looking like a draw for TNA. The first quarter hour ALWAYS is higher then the 2nd quarter hour in TNA. Show me when the last time that was not the case. TNA's 4th quarter hour did a 1.23, so it went up in the 5th quarter for the segment. Anyone who follows the ratings knows TNA's issue is there rating does well in the first half, but then decreases as show goes on which was not the case when this segment aired.  |
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Post by Jedi-El of Tomorrow on Jan 19, 2011 17:19:24 GMT -5
It was put in quarter 5 which is usually a strong quarter for Impact. Remember when the Knockouts pulled the highest ratings, they were in that quarter, and a lot of times it's the highest rated quarter. This week the highest rated quarter was quarter 1 with 1.41, quarter 5 pulled in 1.29. The first hour averaged better than the 2nd hour. Through 1 week, this angle isn't looking like a draw for TNA. The first quarter hour ALWAYS is higher then the 2nd quarter hour in TNA. Show me when the last time was that that is not the case. TNA's 4th quarter hour did a 1.23, so it went up in the 5th quarter for the segment. Anyone who follows the ratings knows TNA's issue is there rating does well in the first half, but then decreases as show goes on which was not the case when this segment aired. Looking at the rating threads here, and not every Impact has a quarterly breakdown, which is since September, the 5th quarter has ranked higher than the 4th every time but twice. Even the 10/14 Impact saw an increase from quarter 4 to quarter 5. As for 5th quarter being the highest rated. There's the 9/2/10, live Impact, last Impact in October, first Impact in November and November 11 Impact. |
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Post by Bulk Boulder24 on Jan 19, 2011 17:31:49 GMT -5
The first quarter hour ALWAYS is higher then the 2nd quarter hour in TNA. Show me when the last time was that that is not the case. TNA's 4th quarter hour did a 1.23, so it went up in the 5th quarter for the segment. Anyone who follows the ratings knows TNA's issue is there rating does well in the first half, but then decreases as show goes on which was not the case when this segment aired. , and not every Impact has a quarterly breakdown, which is since September, the 5th quarter has ranked higher than the 4th every time but twice. Even the 10/14 Impact saw an increase from quarter 4 to quarter 5. As for 5th quarter being the highest rated. There's the 9/2/10, live Impact, last Impact in October, first Impact in November and November 11 Impact. Where is here you have a link? |
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Post by N E O G E O B O Y S on Jan 19, 2011 17:46:28 GMT -5
The Lita/Edge/Hardy deal was diferent
At first we had hardy being fired, then fans demanding to be re hired, and fans really wanted to see hardy beat edge until THAT promo
The thing is, people really wanted to see that feud, and WWE did a good job to make it seems at times like a ''shoot''
Here just feels unnecesary and a little too late, also lots of people knew about the relationship of edge, matt and lita, with TNA, they just made Jarrett and angle feud until suddenly karen appeared and became a love triangle angle, I don't know how many fans knew about this situation or if they even remembered karen, It was just something that happened with no build up, they should had played it a little more
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Post by Malcolm Tucker for PM on Jan 19, 2011 18:11:01 GMT -5
Using real life relationships to push wrestling storylines rarely turn out good for the couple involved. Why is it so bad just to have an old fashioned wrestling feud instead of adding work/shoots into it? They need to stop booking the shows for the IWC. A majority of the fans watching probably didn't even know Karen was married to Jeff. TNA just assumed you already knew that fact. I don't think that's entirely fair. I'm sure the people behind the angle are aware of the differences between the internet fan who will know all about the situation and the casual viewer who most likely doesn't. The important thing is that there is no reason that the angle can't work with either group. As long is Jarrett is a dick and people want to see Angle beat him then surely thats the only thing that matters. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 19, 2011 18:39:45 GMT -5
The Lita/Edge/Hardy deal was diferent At first we had hardy being fired, then fans demanding to be re hired, and fans really wanted to see hardy beat edge until THAT promo The thing is, people really wanted to see that feud, and WWE did a good job to make it seems at times like a ''shoot'' Here just feels unnecesary and a little too late, also lots of people knew about the relationship of edge, matt and lita, with TNA, they just made Jarrett and angle feud until suddenly karen appeared and became a love triangle angle, I don't know how many fans knew about this situation or if they even remembered karen, It was just something that happened with no build up, they should had played it a little more Also - aping an angle from 5 years ago is so boring. I mean, TNA really tries to use nostalgia as a crutch. People want something new and fresh, not two guys rehashing a storyline originally played out by guys 15 years younger than them. When you're 45 and still having this drama - it just seems sad. |
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