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Post by Baldobomb-22-OH-MAN!!! on Jun 15, 2011 19:49:31 GMT -5
as far as I understand, GL's continuity won't be touched at all. everything still happened, including Hal going crazy, becoming Parallax, killing the GLC and Kyle replacing him. but there have been a few changes in the title lately, so Hal's still going to be one of the only human GLs. Kyle's joining the Blue Lantern corps and is going to be the star of a new title called "Guardians of the Universe" or something to that effect, John Stewart is presumed dead, and Guy Gardner's also going to remain a GL.
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Post by Thaal Sinestro on Jun 15, 2011 19:51:25 GMT -5
Ehh, not like this thread hasn't gotten derailed before..... Well, to ask a question about the topic, we have Hal in the JLA relauch, but what will happen to all the other Lanterns? Absolutely nothing. They all stay put. When did they say that stuff about John? He's teaming with guy in GL Corps ain't he?
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Post by Baldobomb-22-OH-MAN!!! on Jun 15, 2011 19:53:48 GMT -5
he just blew up Mogo and is presumed dead. and the Green Lantern relaunch is supposed to introduce a new partner to Hal for Sector 2814.
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Post by Evilution E5150 on Jun 15, 2011 19:54:53 GMT -5
Ehh, not like this thread hasn't gotten derailed before..... Well, to ask a question about the topic, we have Hal in the JLA relauch, but what will happen to all the other Lanterns? Absolutely nothing. They all stay put. When did they say that stuff about John? He's teaming with guy in GL Corps ain't he? Here's cover to GL Corp 1 heres the blurb When deadly conflicts emerge across the universe, it's up to Guy Gardner, John Stewart and an elite Green Lantern strike force to keep the peace – or else.
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Post by Baldobomb-22-OH-MAN!!! on Jun 15, 2011 19:56:15 GMT -5
ok I guess he isn't dead then.
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Post by Thaal Sinestro on Jun 15, 2011 19:56:58 GMT -5
That's whut I know. Unless they're tackling this "Presumed dead" thing in GLC #1
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Post by Baldobomb-22-OH-MAN!!! on Jun 15, 2011 19:58:21 GMT -5
well, y'know the rule, he ain't dead until you see the body.
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Post by Thaal Sinestro on Jun 15, 2011 19:59:52 GMT -5
Maybe they're killing him off so people can stop complaining about not having the white man hold dem characters down.
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Post by Baldobomb-22-OH-MAN!!! on Jun 15, 2011 20:06:04 GMT -5
/\ speaking of which, where the hell is Black Lightning? he's only the first black superhero to have his own title at DC.
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Post by Thaal Sinestro on Jun 15, 2011 20:07:45 GMT -5
Getting out the way for Mr.Terrific and Batwing. Letting the new black guys get their run.
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Post by Baldobomb-22-OH-MAN!!! on Jun 15, 2011 20:12:15 GMT -5
if Batwing lasts 5 issues I'll be surprised.
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Post by AFN: Judge Shred on Jun 15, 2011 20:40:18 GMT -5
if Batwing lasts 5 issues I'll be surprised. It will get 6 at least. Flashpoint: Grodd of War was a pretty cool one shot. More Grodd please.
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Post by s l i k on Jun 15, 2011 22:51:28 GMT -5
Poor Stephanie Brown.
She was doing such a nice job.
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Post by dav on Jun 16, 2011 5:49:27 GMT -5
I don't know, I think that Magneto is more complex than that. The character has evolved a lot over the past 40 years. The relationship between Prof X and Magneto is one of ups and downs, but there would never EVER be any sort of reconciliation if Magneto slaughtered Jean Grey, so that would severely limit the characters. Plus, do you think Charles would've tried to help Wanda if it really was Magneto? Then there wouldn't have been a House of M, or Decimation, or any of the following storylines. X-Men Prelude to Schism 2 is a great issue. It gives a lot of insight into the way the character thinks now. but see that's where my problem is. it IS in character for Magneto to do those things. he's ALWAYS had severe mental problems that make him switch back and forth between good guy and bad guy. and to be honest, I never really bought his "good guy" turn to begin with. the guy was a terrorist, and a murderer. he's also very manipulative, so it was more in character that he'd pretend to be a good guy to further a plan than actually join them. this is a guy who, prior to Morrison's run, took off and formed his own country because he couldn't get his way. he also murdered an entire crew of russian submariners because they annoyed him, AFTER his supposed "reformation". and that was written by Chris Claremont, so his whining about it makes him a hypocrite. "it's okkay if I do it, but Magneto's my favorite toy so anyone else's work with the character doesn't count waaa waaa waaa". and then you factor in him losing Genosha, the final event that put him over the edge. not to mention his use of the drug Kick, which as established by Morrison, is trying to make the human race extinct and influences others to achieve its goals. combined with Magneto's already shaky mental state, his actions during Planet X made perfect sense. the fact that the retcon they came up with to change the story being convoluted and nonsensical doesn't help, either. even if you hate how Morrison characterized Magneto, you have to agree that the retcon to undo his work was terrible. It was better than leaving the character completely derailed by having him herd people into ovens simply because Morrison wanted him to go insane. Magneto wasn't just simply a terrorist and murderer but much more complex than that. To have Morrison throw it all out and just simply have him wipe out New York and then kill Jean Grey was just aggrevating in the least.
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Post by Turd Ferguson on Jun 16, 2011 7:17:19 GMT -5
he just blew up Mogo and is presumed dead. and the Green Lantern relaunch is supposed to introduce a new partner to Hal for Sector 2814. He got out of Mogo, though. Everyone was chastising him about it.
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Post by Baldobomb-22-OH-MAN!!! on Jun 16, 2011 9:15:30 GMT -5
but see that's where my problem is. it IS in character for Magneto to do those things. he's ALWAYS had severe mental problems that make him switch back and forth between good guy and bad guy. and to be honest, I never really bought his "good guy" turn to begin with. the guy was a terrorist, and a murderer. he's also very manipulative, so it was more in character that he'd pretend to be a good guy to further a plan than actually join them. this is a guy who, prior to Morrison's run, took off and formed his own country because he couldn't get his way. he also murdered an entire crew of russian submariners because they annoyed him, AFTER his supposed "reformation". and that was written by Chris Claremont, so his whining about it makes him a hypocrite. "it's okkay if I do it, but Magneto's my favorite toy so anyone else's work with the character doesn't count waaa waaa waaa". and then you factor in him losing Genosha, the final event that put him over the edge. not to mention his use of the drug Kick, which as established by Morrison, is trying to make the human race extinct and influences others to achieve its goals. combined with Magneto's already shaky mental state, his actions during Planet X made perfect sense. the fact that the retcon they came up with to change the story being convoluted and nonsensical doesn't help, either. even if you hate how Morrison characterized Magneto, you have to agree that the retcon to undo his work was terrible. It was better than leaving the character completely derailed by having him herd people into ovens simply because Morrison wanted him to go insane. Magneto wasn't just simply a terrorist and murderer but much more complex than that. To have Morrison throw it all out and just simply have him wipe out New York and then kill Jean Grey was just aggrevating in the least. but that's the part that people forget. on his own, Magneto's a bad guy but he probably wouldn't torch New York for the evulz. at least, not anymore. though he would have at one time. but he was being controlled and influenced by Sublime at the time, a being that WOULD torch New York for the evulz. that's something that most people who bitch about Morrison's treatment of Magneto casually forget. on his own Magneto probably would show some restraint, but he wasn't completely in the driver seat at the time. why they didn't just go with that instead of the b.s. "that wasn't really him, it was Xorn's brother pretending to be Xorn pretending to be Magneto" retcon is something that completely mystifies me.
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Post by Turd Ferguson on Jun 16, 2011 9:31:08 GMT -5
Not to keep taking jabs at Morrison, but could anyone actually FOLLOW Final Crisis, much less enjoy it?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 16, 2011 9:48:57 GMT -5
It made perfect sense to me
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Post by Baixo Astral on Jun 16, 2011 9:52:08 GMT -5
It made perfect sense to me Me too, and I thought it was exceptional. The end, with the crowning moment of awesome parade, was just perfection.
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Post by Baldobomb-22-OH-MAN!!! on Jun 16, 2011 10:06:29 GMT -5
I loved Final Crisis. it has to be read as a collection, though. reading it as a monthly would be painful. and for some reason Didio made the Superman: Beyond stuff a limited series when it needed to be read to understand FC.
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